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As noted in the Rave thread, it is now scheduled to happen in Sunset Park, because local politicians objected to it.
So, I give you this photo set of the interior of the armory to keep you entertained while we are waiting for it to be fully utilized:
Here is the crux of one of the proposals submitted to the EDC for consideration:
Note, a total 8 proposals were submitted by different entities, and (as discussed above) the EDC has yet to announce its decision.
The 71st Pct advising us that there will be a gala at the Bedford Union armory.
"On Wednesday, December 02, 2015, the 71st Precinct is having a Large Fund Raiser at Bedford Armory
There will NO be parking on the following blocks
At 6PM to 12AM Rogers Ave will be closed to all through traffic
All blocks leading into Rogers between Empire and Eastern will also be closed. Residence with proper ID will be permitted to access all closed blocks at all times.
There will be several check points, several anti-terrorism officers and a large police presence in the area. There are NO KNOWN THREATS however the NYPD will be taking extra precautions during this event."
...I believe this event is actually held by the Satmars, not the NYPD.
While the block associations around the armory are pleased that the rave did not take place, larger questions remain. At a meeting this week, they hope to get some clarity:
I was not able to attend last night, but have heard the same.
...basically the community based initiative plan would not break even, and require government subsidizes forever.
I learned about this meeting as a result of being on the CHCC mailing list (a bunch of local block associations on the south side of EP). You can get on it by emailing Richard Hurley: email@example.com
A few years ago, I decided the armory was one of the Big 16 local developments I would track closely, so (don't worry) you'll get to know everything I learn about it, as I learn it.
...whether you want it or not
As discussed above, several of the proposals involved demolishing and then building residential on the parking facility in the back of the armory.
Said development would be a mix of market rate and "affordable" units.
Needless to say, the more affordable units this residential building has, the less it would be able to subsidize the activities that will occur in the drill hall.
whynot_31 said:Here is the crux of one of the proposals submitted to the EDC for consideration: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2zZl43jSHpgUkRxLV91VnlWNDg/viewNote, a total 8 proposals were submitted by different entities, and (as discussed above) the EDC has yet to announce its decision.
The property was transferred from NYS to EDC (NYC gov) with the condition that it can't sell any part of the property, the most it can do is issue a 99 year lease.
As a result, condos are unlikely.
For the parking facility, the decision is believed to be between a hotel or mixed income rentals.
I predict we will get a mixed income rental building, with some units being significantly below market.
....and a recreation/event center that will have to financially hold its own.
I also predict the defunct gas station across the street will be rezoned residential, so we still have a few years of looking at it in its present state.
I believe there will be seperate developers/providers of each service.
It seems only CAMBA has been named as a provider so far. I look forward to learning what architects/developer(s) will create the town homes and the midrise.
EDC has yet to announce such things, and I expect mainstream media (sorry DNA.info) to provide complete coverage once the press release and conferences happen.
I'd be so thrilled to have a community pool nearby. Let's hope they get moving on this!
My source informed me that we would get a formal announcement, complete with press conference with politicians, before Dec 25th.
The armory steps seem like a logical location.
December 16, 2015
Anthony Hogrebe/Ian Fried, NYCEDC (212) 312-3523; firstname.lastname@example.org
For Planning Purposes Only
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 17: NYCEDC
to Announce 500,000 Square Foot Mixed-Use Development at Bedford Union Armory
in Crown Heights
On Thursday, December 17, New York City Economic Development Corporation will
announce an approximately 500,000 square foot mixed-use development at the Bedford
Union Armory in Crown Heights, Brooklyn.
Tomorrow, December 17, 9 a.m.
Bedford Union Armory, 1579 Bedford Avenue, between Union and President Streets,
Brooklyn, NY, 11225
New York Knicks
Forward Carmelo Anthony
That is unclear. but I presume just the drill hall and some social service programming.
This email from a local neighborhood activist (and friend) provides some additional details:
1. The mixed income building will be 13 stories. [Given that the site is already on top of a hill, this will provide the residents of the top floors with great views. The market rate units will be very attractive]
2. Some non-profits will have office space and programming. [CAMBA is likely among these]
3. They did figure out a way to sell to the land/stables the townhomes will be constructed on. [I expect they will go for over $2M a piece.]
Yes, that is the name of the LLC mentioned by The Real Deal.
Here is CAMBA's line in the press release: “These spectacular new facilities will enable CAMBA to create new recreational and educational programs to benefit the whole community.”
...there is no mention that, by contracting with CAMBA, the city could pretty easily convert the drill hall into a shelter should legal action by entities like Coalition for the Homeless demand it.
I purport that all of those developments (aka "The Big 16") are being constructed with this one and each other, in mind:
The armory is just piece in a rapidly evolving puzzle. My thought is that majority of the Big 16 will be completed by 2020, and that the economic effects are already being felt.
This development has many components, and I believe only the drill hall remains at risk of becoming a shelter.
No one wants it to happen. It would be legally forced upon the city, which would then have CAMBA convert the drill hall. In my view, the city has likely selected CAMBA to allow for this contingency.
I assume the developers are aware of the risk, and have deemed it acceptable.
I'll go so far to say that even the Coalition for the Homeless does not WANT to use the drill hall as a shelter; they would much rather the city ensure the legally established Right to Shelter by developing smaller shelters and/or permanent supportive housing.
I am describing a "last resort", but one that I believe the city creating a contingency for.
Photo is press conference: https://twitter.com/NYCEDC/status/677493048360747008
they are good enough that we should save our readers a click:
A few floors will be added to the stables to make the townhomes; They are going to fetch some serious $.
And, here are the specs on the mid rise:
Let's pick it apart:
"The facility will feature a pool, basketball courts, and an indoor turf field, as well as a 500-seat auditorium and office space for local non-profit organizations. Medgar Evers College, which is located a block south on Bedford Avenue, will occupy of the non-profit space. CAMBA, a non-profit affordable housing developer and social services group based in Flatbush, will run the new rec center."
MEC has some institutes and whatnot that do not fit within its traditional CUNY model, but I think it is a stretch to call them non-profits.
CAMBA is consistently being reported as being the provider for the rec center, which makes it appear as if it broadening its mission to be similar to Children's Aid Society.
"Out of the 515,000-square-foot-development, the condos will occupy 55,000 square feet, and the new rental building will span 360,000 square feet. The commercial, community and recreation space will fill another 100,000 square feet, mostly fronting Bedford Avenue and part of President Street."
I find it odd that the drill hall is not mentioned, because it makes up the majority of the complex.
In this photo, the stables and the headhouse are all labeled Headhouse, but they are distinct, and we can see the difference. I assume whatever retail is coming (coffee shop? place to buy sweatbands, yoga pants and deodorant?) will occupy the actual headhouse the front corner.
It is unclear to me whether the new lobby/entrance way will be actually on President St.
Alicia Boyd had a lot to say about this project at tonight's CB9 meeting.
It isn't surprising, but a lot of the local advocates do not like the armory plans. Their complaints are the common ones:
- The jobs created won't be union.
- The affordable housing won't be given to the people who truly need and deserve it.
- The recreation facility will be too expensive for the present, low income residents.
- Their favorite contractor was not selected for the job.
A rumor that Bruce Ratner will be involved: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/The-Armory-and-Bruce-Ratner.html?soid=1112633571666&aid=4L4qfDejqKM
I like the armory plans, but not everyone does.
Hence, the money shot (see above) will be circulated by the EDC throughout the process.
Specifically, many members of the First Baptist Church of Crown Heights (corner of EP and Rogers) are upset because their development corp. was not chosen to develop the site.
The corp has been active in Crown Heights for quite sometime, and now is shrinking due to increased competition.
Here's some background on it:
"In 1987 Rev. Norman founded the Local Development Corporation of Crown Heights. Through the Local Development Corporation, Rev. Norman has helped develop more than 800 units of housing for senior citizens and low income families. The Local Development Corporation has constructed twenty-one buildings in Crown Heights, including David Chavis Apartments, The Albany Residence and St. John’s Apartment."
This project is subject to ULURP.
Those who hate it will get to voice their objections, while those in power are forced to act like they are listening.
Can I lend you a thin veil?
This project is subject to ULURP.http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/ap/step5_rules.shtmlThose who hate it will get to voice their objections, while those in power are forced to act like they are listening.
Bedford Courts now has a website and additional public meetings:
I believe this meeting will be facilitated by Kweighbaye Koteehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kweighbaye-kotee-8628a73bIt seems Slate knows what it is doing....
I've registered for this event and will update this thread tonight if there is anything interesting.
For MWBE businesses...
Wear down your opposition with meetings, and money.
The redevelopment of the Kingsbridge Armory continues to provide an illustration of how this could be YEARS before it comes to fruition.
Even if they have a smooth approval via ULURP, construction is not supposed to be done until 2020.
Another meeting was held today:
I propose another use for the Bedford Union Armory -- a Longsword Training Facility! How "brooklyn" would that be? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/sports/for-longsword-a-comeback-ages-in-the-making.html
Parts of the project require ULURP, but other parts do not.
...the part that involves selling the portion along President St and then building townhomes, involves ULURP.
Didn't realize that they had officially started anything. Aren't they waiting for ULURP or something of the sort?
They have to wait until the complete ULURP to before they can make any major changes to the site.
Slate will be doing that work.
This site continues to be one of the sites I believe will make a large impact on western Crown Heights: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/47007/the-big-18-developments-the-whynot-31-wont-stop-talking-about?new=1
The new site is said to include a pool. In light of the recent controversy about women's only hours in Williamsburg, I wonder if Crown Heights' Lubavitch would seek to rent the pool for periods of time.
By doing so, could they host a weekly "private event" at the pool that would spare them the controversy that came from a public pool "granting" special hours?
In light of the forces in play, I view the ULURP process as being something the Slate reps will have to sit through, but stand no chance of "losing".
So, I expect the show and the outcome to be much Atlantic Yards.
The ever shrinking MTOPP will play the role of Develop Don't Destroy Brooklyn.
The new site is said to include a pool. In light of the recent controversy about women's only hours in Williamsburg, I wonder if Crown Heights' Lubavitch would seek to rent the pool for periods of time.By doing so, could they host a weekly "private event" at the pool that would spare them the controversy that came from a public pool "granting" special hours?http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/avital-chizhik-goldschmidt-swim-peace-women-article-1.2660358