Compare supermarket brings in the builders!?
  • It really takes the 'hood to another level, and I suspect people are paying more to live near it.

    Yesterday the brokerage Massey Knakal put out a release saying a local developer has purchased a site at 505 St. Marks Avenue in Crown Heights and plans to construct a 128-unit rental. The existing building on the property, which is between Classon and Franklin avenues, is going to be demolished. The site sold for $4.5 million

    http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2011/10/big-new-rental-planned-for-st-marks-ave-in-crown-hts/


  • Unfortunatly, the new building probably won't replace the old day care that was here, which, I predict will be sorely needed in the next five years.


  • Definitely an interesting time, for better or for worse, to be living in the neighborhood. Since moving here in November, there's been so many things going on its almost hard to keep up.


  • My mom used to work in that day care center.


  • With all of these market rate developments coming, thee is really no way that Compare could fail.

    ...yes, all of these new families will need Daycare, but I suspect they will have to go to a cheaper neighborhood, where land is less expensive, to obtain it.


  • Have you priced day care recently? I'm willing to bet it can make more money per square foot of real estate than a lot of the businesses on Franklin Ave.


  • While Daycare might be expensive, it is often not very profitable to provide. Sadly, that tuition money goes quickly out the door in the form of expenses like insurance, teacher payroll and conformance to DOH regulations.

    ...Mercedes driving Day Care owners are rare.

    Unless the owners obtain a clientele is able to pay for these expenses AND the convenience of being in an expensive neighborhood (which can be done...), the proprietors are wise to locate outside in a cheaper neighborhood.

    Push that stroller east?

    Hire a nanny?


  • Update Oct 13, 2102:

    A construction fence has been erected, and an excavator has begun to gnaw away at the buildings



  • I'm pretty sure that whole block of St. Marks is zoned for greater than 6 stories, so it wouldn't surprise me if some of the remaining low rise structures on the block also sold, demolished and built upon.


  • Update late Feb 2013: Some foundation work is actively going on at this site.

    Hopefully we will get to see some structural steel by May.


  • More rentals okay higher rents!


  • Yes, the rents will be infinitely higher than they are right now, considering we're talking about a dirt lot.


  • I predict this is going to be a tough next few years for Chloeroyale, accepting changes and coming to terms with reality.


  • Epiclylaterd it's a win win for me!! Trust me on that one!!!!


  • I don't think u should be concerned about me u need to look out for yourself! U just started the game!


  • I find the concept of there being winners and losers interesting.

    Each party (the renter, the landlord) agrees upon a price, which is correlated to their level of risk and investment, and things like age.

    Without more information, I am not sure which role I would choose.


  • Please why not please!


  • On the plus side, this development is likely to attract well qualified tenants, with good credit ratings, who I would have financial recourse against if they trashed the place.

    On the negative side, they are likely to be very transient and picky in nature, causing me to have to pay a lot for property management.

    On the plus side, the building should be new and easy to maintain when it is finally occupied.

    Etc


  • Oh that's so wonderful for u why not


  • Epiclylaterd said:

    I predict this is going to be a tough next few years for Chloeroyale, accepting changes and coming to terms with reality.


    It's pretty easy for her I think. She'll just keep bashing the "new" people in the neighborhood and finding various things to complain about. I'm sure she'll be just fine.


  • Epiclylaterd let me check u now. I don't bash the new people in the area! I just tell u how I feel and I'm not alone in the way I feel. As for the new people soon there will be an exodus out of the area after the prices become unaffordable everything in this life is temporary . I won't dig into u too hard because mike will get on me again. U know he monitors me closely!!


  • Epiclylaterd said:

    Definitely an interesting time, for better or for worse, to be living in the neighborhood. Since moving here in November, there's been so many things going on its almost hard to keep up.


    That is why I focus mostly on the big projects, like this one.

    The opening and closing of small, storefront businesses are too hard to keep up with.


  • March 10th:

    I looked at the progress of this lot today.

    a. Demolition is complete.

    b. All debris has been removed.

    Next steps:

    -Dig a big hole for the foundation.

    -Haul away the dirt.

    -fun with cement.


  • P.S. Those mourning the loss of the daycare center that was previously at this site, should note that it one was of several to lose city (ACS) funding as of the start of FY 2011 (July 1, 2011).

    http://www.nynp.biz/index.php/breaking-news/1997-acs-lists-15-day-care-cen..

    It isn't clear why this daycare center was selected to be among those closed, but ACS funds child care for families who are of limited means, and day care centers which are not able to maintain census are those at risk.

    It could be that this center was no longer able to maintain census as a result of the area becoming wealthier, and that ACS chose to allocated its limited resources to areas of greater need.


  • Noticed some wood go up on the old post office next to Compare Foods. Anyone have a heads up what's going on?


  • If you are talking about the building that used to be radiology, I'm not sure that Alma has a tenant yet.

    It is a big space. I'd be interested in it if I was CVS or Rite Aid.

    Single story building on far left of photo, before shuttle tracks:



  • That's the one


  • I want that "Radiation" lettering. That'd be a pretty boss decoration.


  • No idea why I thought it was a post office. Perhaps the overall depressing nature from the look of the building


  • ehgee, I think some people agree with you on the lettering. I have noticed that several of the letters are missing already.


  • Photo taken April 27, 2013

    At this point, the construction guys might be willing to knock them off for you.



  • I think it's either office or residential-- they are punching smaller vertical windows every couple feet, not like what you'd expect for a commercial space. And for what it's worth, the work permit says they'res no change in owner or use.

    Also, the work has been sporadic and not very professional looking. Hmmm.


  • Also no stirrings on the development site across the street? Who buys something for 4.5 million and then let it sit there? Apparently this is something people do.


  • The delay at 505 may be occurring while the owners of the site look for investors, bank loans or work on more profitable jobs.

    According to Street Easy, the architects are (were?) Issac & Stern.

    http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/505-st-marks-avenue-brooklyn

    If they are still the architects, they will hopefully display the design on their website under residential: http://issacstern.com/

    Nope, it isn't there yet.


  • July 26:

    The 505 lot still appears dormant.

    Work continues to move along at the single story space next to Compare. I agree, this does not look like it is going to become commercial space.... the windows are too far apart.


  • Sept 13, 2013: Word has been received that No Parking Construction Zone signs have gone up in front of the big 505 St. Marks site.

    In addition to finding a different place to park, readers should also expect an exacavator to start digging the hole for the foundation, and dump trucks to haul the dirt away.


  • Oct 3, 2013

    Rendering now posted on construction fence:



  • Hmm, not sure if that drawing is more or less inspiring than the old haunted playground that was there for so long, leftover from the daycare..


  • In this photo, the haunted playground is being used by boys and their toys for the last time.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/atomische/8100582555/in/set-72157631800139193/


  • Readers, this development is one of the Big Developments happening in western Crown Heights in 2014 that we will be watching closely. To learn about the others, see this thread: 

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/44634/links-to-the-big-16-developments-in-western-crown-heights/p1

  • Pics of the new building.Mix use building, residential and community facility.8 story over cellar, approximately 113,000 sf. and 147 residences.
  • Update: Work on the foundation is now underway. Fun with excavators is ending, fun concrete and steel is beginning!
  • This one gets to have shuttle track views!
  • Foundation work complete. The steel begins to rise:

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  • The foundation is complete, and the base for the first floor is now in place.

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  • Fun with cement:

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  • They appear to be accomplishing a floor a week:

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  • In case you want a birds-eye view of the construction, here's my photo set. I'll be updating it regularly through the construction process!

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/atomische/sets/72157644234295981


  • Thanks!

    Here's today's photo of the building rising from street level:

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  • From the back:

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    From above photographer
  • Now three visible floors

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  • A photo from Atom, from the back:


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  • Now as tall as the building on its left.image
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  • Another floor this week. Now taller than its building on its left.


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  • They have been busy:

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    Based on the above rendering, it looks like the next two floors are set back from the others at the far left and right of the building.      But we still have 2 more stories of height to go.
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  • I believe they only have one more floor to pour.

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  • It didn't get a picture today, but it appears that the building has now reached its terminal height.   

    (just add another floor to the above photo)

    If one looks very closely, one can already see the beginnings of plumbing and electrical work on the lower floors. 

    One should note that this building is being developed by the same firm (Realty Within Reach) that is constructing the large apartment building at 1515 Bedford, the site of the former theater/church:

  • Apartments available in Spring 2015.
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  • Cement work is now complete. Studs for the partition walls for floors 1 - 4 are visible. Electricians and plumbing contractors are now on site.

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