When I looked in today, carpenters were busy constructing what looked like a bar along the left side of the space, and a big bench type seat that ran the length of the right side of the space.
Many moons ago this was supposed to be a wine bar, but then it sold suits and after that it closed. I wonder what's next.
Rumors are that it could be the future location of this burger place:http://www.dresslernyc.com/unfortunately/
Calling The Dressler a "burger place" is like calling al di la a "sandwich place" because the same people own Lincoln Station.
The Dressler was a Michelin-starred fine-dining restaurant. It was owned by the same people who also own DuMont. The DuMont's burger has been so justifiably popular that they spun off a separate restaurant called DuMont Burger, which also serves as kick-ass mac and cheese.
For what it's worth, I think the Forest Floor space would be way too small for a Dressler part 2, if that's what they have in mind.
I was actually thinking in terms of this location resembling their Dumont Burger place.
The Forest Floor was much bigger inside than it looked. It even had a little garden out back. I'd love a burger place - I think the owners of Stocked were telling me they had heard that the "Fish Fish Mo' Fish" space might become a burger joint.
Sounds like the street could use one - even though the Soda burger is pretty good and Plan B has that "inside-out" thing. Plan B just seems to have some sort of force-field that repels my appetite as I approach.
While it is good, Soda takes forever to produce a burger.
What happened to Fish Fish Mo Fish? I don't remember it ever opening, even though they got that fantastic sign.
Fish Fish Mo Fish was financially affiliated with Back 9.
Back 9 went under when the avenue did not instaneously fill with burger/wing eating hoards.
Fish Fish Mo Fish stopped work and never opened. I've heard the owner lost a lot of money on the two establishments.
That's too bad. I got take out a few times from Back 9 and it was pretty good. It's a shame they didn't have the cash to last at least a year, so they could've built some local following.
He put so much money in to those places that a local following would not have sustained him. He needed visitors that were willing to overpay.
lots of 'em.
I was told his grand plan was to have moderate prices until the arena opened, then jack them up.
the issue with this stretch of Vanderbilt is that no full liquor licenses are available (most or all of the block, I think) due to the presence of the brotherhood Baptist church on the corner. beer & wine-yes; full liquor-no. SODA is grandfathered and R&D somehow got in under the wire. I understand that the inability to become a "sports bar" is one reason why there is no FFMF. I am not sure whether the landlords have priced this reality into their commercial lease demands, but if not you may see some empty storefronts while they figure it out the market.
also, the "blessed hands" hair salon (next to prospect heights realty) has moved. no idea what is going in there.
to be clear, the block with the liquor license restrictions is the fish fish mo fish block. not sure how far the 250 ft radius (that restricts liquor licenses) goes - probably just to park pl intersection. I heard that old pena's is the location Dumont is looking at for a burger joint, but maybe they are looking someplace else where they can do full liquor. as for forest floor, wasn't it the plan b owners who were going to do the tapas place? maybe they're back in the game.
The amount of street traffic on Vanderbilt during prime evening hours is really something nowadays. I think a burger joint wouldn't need more than a beer & wine license to make it (take a cue from 67 burger). Local beer, local beer, local beef.
Also, it should be noted that the Vanderbilt actually has a fantastic burger AND it's (usually) on the happy-hour menu AND happy hour kicks in again at 11 PM on weeknights.
I like the burger at Vanderbilt, but the prices and atmosphere is a little upscale for eating solo.
I think something along the lines of Bark (located on Bergen, near Flatbush) would thrive. It has beer and burgers..
Enough with the burgers. I think we need a takeout/eat in salad place - like a Chop'd.
I am surprised that little organic market doesn't have made to order salads.
Arches came across this news about one of the primary owners of Dressler/Dumont:
arches said:This probably doesn't bode well for a new Dumont. Sad. http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/07/25/missing-brooklyn-restaurateur-found-dead-in-pennsylvania/
arches said:This probably doesn't bode well for a new Dumont. Sad.
If 659 Vanderbilt was going to be the rumored location, plans have suddenly changed...
It's still supposed to be a wine bar. Every few months I see guys doing what's probably illegal construction for a while and then they disappear. It's the same owner as the awful sports bar across the street.
I'm still confused about why people hate Plan B so much. It's actually a nice place to grab a bite to eat and watch a game. Anytime I've been there, the patrons and staff have been perfectly civil.
Anyhow, I hope the wine bar eventually opens. I always welcome another place to unwind.
We like it! Decent food, buy backs and it is one of the few bars in the 'hood that we do not feel like we are chaperoning.
Amen, regarding Plan B.
As a future wine bar, I find it odd that I have not heard about them having to present to the CB8 committee.
I perceive wine and beer lic's (as opposed to full liq lics) as being a given, but I would want to get the process started before I began construction.
The last permit for 659 Vanderbilt seems to have expired back in 2003, back when it was a grocery store.
Nothing seems to be pending.
As expected, that will soon change....
Sept 23: An entity known as GE Park LLC is in the process of asking the Community Board for their support for a Beer and Wine lic, one which allow them to use their back garden/grounds.
They are expected to present on Monday, October 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM at CNR-Center Light Health Care Center, which is located at 727 Classon Avenue, Brooklyn, NY (between Park and Prospect Places).
They didn't appear on Oct 7. They are expected to appear at the next SLA & Sidewalk Café Review Committee:
Monday, November 4, 2013 at 6:30 PM at CNR-Center Light Health Care Center, which is located at 727 Classon Avenue, Brooklyn, NY (between Park and Prospect Places).
They showed up at tonight's (Nov 4) mtg.
Yes, they do also own Plan B across the street.
Yes, they will serve food including brunch.
Yes, they are receiving the support of the board for a lic to serve wine.
No, they can't use their backyard space yet.
They "source" their eggs at Met?
Now closed. It seems it was open a little more than a year.
"Prospect Heights restaurant Cooklyn has closed its doors. The restaurant's landlord, Mohmoud Widdi, confirmed that the restaurant at 659 Vanderbilt Ave. had its last night of service on Sunday, but he did not know if owner and chef Anthony Theocaropoulos —who's worked under Michael White, Masaharu Morimoto, and Mario Batali — planned on reopening or renovating. A tipster tells Eater that a completely new restaurant may be in the works for the space."
That's a shame - I really liked this place.
I only went to this place once, because I went during the summer and they had no air conditioning.
It didn't seem to be broken, it seem to not be installed. ...which was odd in light of how well decorated the place appeared.
I hope whatever entity comes into this space makes an investment in AC...
Here comes word of the new place: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/46769/whats-coming-to-the-former-location-of-cooklyn-at-659-vanderbilt?new=1
...let's close this thread