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Ebbets Field Apartments get a make over

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  • I looked at a few of the photos. If you notice the bathroom, no medicine cabinet, no vanity which means there's no storage in there for essentials. Just another way they're cutting costs and charging crazy rents.
    The bathrooms in unrenovated units don't have vanities either; just the sink. In a one bedroom at least, there isn't much space for one. 

    The tenant(s) may have to go out and spring for something like this:
    image

    Just hope nothing falls into the toilet.
  • She wants to be Democratic District Leader again.

    http://www.reneecollymore.com/

  • whynot_31 said:


    Most food is delivered or eaten outside of the apartment.



    It'd be great if (even) more attractive dining out options came into the area. 

    Photo 11 in this series is the lobby where Bill de Blasio and Carl Heastie had that photo op, I believe.
  • Restaurants are starting to populate the stretch of Flatbush between Empire and Hawthorne.  

    That series shows an apartment that many renters would love to rent.

  • Restaurants may be popping up but how long will they stay?



    Look at the complaints on that website though.
  • This one seems credible to me:

    "Horribly and direspectfully Adminitrated! Bamboozeled!

    Delete

    I was told the apartment would be renovated. But it was just patched up. The cabinets were filthy from previous tenant. Paint was applied over dirty surfaces. toilet was black, bedroom is VERY drafty, windows had 3 + years of soot. Bathroom is patched up in caulk. Caulk and grout was put on top of moldy dirty grout...so it fell off and peeled immediately. Thick caulk used to patch up every where. Roaches, Mice will be your housemates. Administration and maintenance will give you the run around, and even lie to say you never put in a maintenance request in the first place. They will only come 9am to 5, and not even on that day. So you need to take 2 days off to sit and wait for someone to come, and not solve your problem. The Real estate agents were nice, but that has nothing to do with the reality of living here. They are trying to gentrify this building so they treat all new and old tenants alike, badly and like we are unintelligent."

  • I expect it will take quite a while for the management and maintenance staff to "adjust" to a tenant base that is paying market rents and demands services consistent with those rents.

    Retraining?

    Additional staff?

    Firing?

    ...or just constant turnover among the market rate units? 

  • I suspect the last option.
  • Here's a photo of Renee Collymore's legal help session at Ebbets Field last night.


     I assume she took the photo.


    renee
  • Ebbets was considered by the tenant featured in this Sunday's NYT "The Hunt" column.  I added the highlighting:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/realestate/a-bed-stuy-apartment-well-known-terrain.html?_r=0

    quote:

    Ms. Fenton had grown up in the Ebbets Field Apartments, a large complex opened in 1962 in Crown Heights on the former field of the Brooklyn Dodgers. A renovated two-bedroom rented for $1,900 a month, including all utilities except for air-conditioning.

    Growing up, she said, “we had a good experience in that building, but the apartments were, at that point, running down.”

    “The quality was kind of shifting and in order for me to go back there, changes would have had to be drastic,” she added. “The grounds still weren’t very well kept, but the apartment was renovated and that was the draw.”

    Still, “the agent fee was the barrier,” she said. “You couldn’t get into the building without the agent.”

    <endquote>


    All of which is to say, this might not go as quickly as the managing agents of Ebbets would like.    They may need to step it up. 

  • The playground reopened a few weeks ago, and is once again well used.

    image
  • edited September 2016
    Today, Ebbets Field was in the news as a result of building conditions:


    A little googling indicated that a bedroom in a 3BR apartment is presently being split for as low as $850 to $1350.


    ...which is certainly within the reach of transient recent college graduates.
  • edited September 2016
    The water was shut off on Wednesday due to repairs. Tenants were notified a few days beforehand via memo. 

    The Department of Health and Mental Hygiene's Rat Information portal contains information about whether or not signs of rats were found at the complex. (They were)
  • I can't imagine a complex that large not having rats.
  • The management company is reportedly pursuing eviction for rule violations and payment issues, that it previously did not.

    I have been told that the tenant mix is changing and that crime is less of a concern now than it was just 2 years ago.

    I would love to read a well written piece that tracked tenants who have left.

    Where do they go?
  • edited April 2017
    While I would not describe preferential rent as a loophole, this article does accurately describe the changes presently occurring at Ebbets Field.  

  • edited May 2017
    Cumbo knows where the voters live:   https://cmlauriecumbo.wordpress.com/2017/05/04/state-of-the-district-2017/

    ..she knows she can't save them from their landlord taking away their preferential rent, but also knows she needs to be seen as helping them. 
  • I am trying to understand why tenants who agreed to preferential rent see it as such a crisis.
  • As long as the landlord makes it clear what the max legal rent is and then the difference vs the preferential rate, I don't think it's a crisis at all.  

    If that isn't made clear, it would definitely be shocking to have your rent double when you thought that it would be more in the range of 1-2%.  
  • Those who have preferential rent should be advised that (in the current climate) it is just a matter of time before their rent is increased to the Legal rent.

    It may happen at the next lease renewal, or the one afterward.

    Hence, they should come up with a plan. ...which may be a very unpleasant option, but still better than shelters.
  • edited August 2017
    Newer versions of this sign have been spotted on the lawns: image

    It's interesting to see these signs from the city posted prominently on private property.

  • Serious fire caused by burning rubbish outside of 47 McKeever Place. Major smoke conditions in 77 Sullivan Place, adjacent building. No reported fatalities, but some people taken away by ambulance.
  • My friend and I were listening to the scanner; i thought they had said 47 McKeever at one point. Smoke was pouring in through residents' doors. Part of the floor is still covered with black soot.
  • I'm glad no one was hurt. Such fires are often caused by not-fully-extinquished cigarettes.
  • Note the Long Island area code on the “For more information” phone #. Outside agitators?
  • I am trying to understand why tenants who agreed to preferential rent see it as such a crisis.
    not many people are aware of preferential rent's instability/freedom to change at will. sure, you can blame them, though think about who has access to full information about these clauses and laws. i have been living in my current building in crown heights under a preferential rent agreement since 2004, and only in 2016 was it removed. hope you can see why that would have people up in arms. there is no warning nor caution that the entire preferential clause will disappear, it just does. it's also not like preferential rent is a complete privilege, it was implemented as a legitimate form of rent stabilization and security. so for the 2003 clause to appear and cause this loophole is also jarring. also preferential rent agreements are sometimes given bc of apartment conditions. for example i live in a building built in 1900, has not been renovated in ages. makes sense to pay at a preferential rate. how is it fair to be charged at legal rate living in an apartment with kitchen appliances from the 1980s?
  • @chiddy I don’t see how asking whether something is “fair” works here. I pay a ridiculous amount for a small, market rate apartment while many around me pay significantly less for much larger, subsidized places. It’s hard to see “fairness” in that but it’s accepted and even encouraged. I pay it because that’s what the market has determined it’s worth and I’ve decided to accept it for the time being and both work harder and cut back in many ways to support it.
  • edited February 5
    Many tenants in rent stabilized units (especially those who have preferential rent) have grown to accept that landlords will do very little to upgrade their appliances. So, they either make due with their old appliances or upgrade them on their own. ...they are not willing to pay the increases that come from having the landlord do it and/or the landlord simply won't do it.
  • Rent stabilized apartments have regulated rents that can only increase by a predetermined amount. When legal rents are above market rents, preferential rents are offered. When the market changes the preferential rent can change also. If the old appliances are serviceable, and you are paying a low rent, what incentive does the landlord have to provide you with new upgraded appliances?
  • edited March 18
    Ebbets residents are being encouraged to AirBnB their units. ...short term gains, fraught with risk. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/tenants-risk-airbnb-ads-flood-brooklyn-apartments-article-1.3882024
  • edited March 19
    tsarina said:
    Rent stabilized apartments have regulated rents that can only increase by a predetermined amount. When legal rents are above market rents, preferential rents are offered. When the market changes the preferential rent can change also. If the old appliances are serviceable, and you are paying a low rent, what incentive does the landlord have to provide you with new upgraded appliances?
    I've only seen new(ish) appliances in the renovated units in the complex.

    @chiddy @tsarina - If your landlord were to replace your appliance, and you live in a rent-stabilized unit, your landlord has the right to increase your rent permanently: http://metcouncilonhousing.org/help_and_answers/broken_appliances_and_fixtures

    If the appliance still works, why get rid of it?

  • Marco555 said:
    @chiddy I don’t see how asking whether something is “fair” works here. I pay a ridiculous amount for a small, market rate apartment while many around me pay significantly less for much larger, subsidized places. It’s hard to see “fairness” in that but it’s accepted and even encouraged. I pay it because that’s what the market has determined it’s worth and I’ve decided to accept it for the time being and both work harder and cut back in many ways to support it.
    @Marco555 - How do you know they are subsidized? Are you talking about Section 8?
  • edited March 19
    booklaw said:
    Note the Long Island area code on the “For more information” phone #. Outside agitators?
    I suspect it's someone's cell phone number. (How many city residents have cell phone numbers that have area codes that are from outside of NYC?)

    "Outside agitators" are fine as long as they are allies.

  • edited March 19
    I've read a lot of speculation that the building's management is behind the AriBnB flyers, so that they can later evict tenants for violating their lease. However, I have also heard that the flyers are offering to list tenants apartments FOR A FEE, which makes me believe this is the work of an entity that has no relationship to the building's management.
  • edited March 20
    However, here is the kicker: The management of the building may BENEFIT from AirBnB tenants even if it is not interested in evicting tenants for violating their lease ...because AirBnB tenants are often white and this may allow prospective white tenants of the renovated apartments to believe they won't be such a minority in the building.
  • whynot_31 said:
    I've read a lot of speculation that the building's management is behind the AriBnB flyers, so that they can later evict tenants for violating their lease. However, I have also heard that the flyers are offering to list tenants apartments FOR A FEE, which makes me believe this is the work of an entity that has no relationship to the building's management.
    I dunno why someone would want to to Air BnB in the complex - either the tenant of record, or someone who wants to rent a room.
  • whynot_31 said:
    However, here is the kicker: The management of the building may BENEFIT from AirBnB tenants even if it is not interested in evicting tenants for violating their lease ...because AirBnB tenants are often white and this may have allow prospective white tenants of the renovated apartments to believe they won't be such a minority in the building.
    They didn't realize the dynamics when they looked at the building? When they moved in?

    Unless they are going to be active in building events (like tenants meetings) or community events, I wonder why this would be a salient issue.

  • People are often afraid of such dynamics regardless of whether they will actually be affected them. Hence, the presence of a few white people tends to cause a snowball effect. [or, um, snowflakes become blizzards]
  • Scott Stringer came to tonight’s tenants meeting.
  • Is building management continuing to pursue eviction against any and all tenants who are late on their rent or violate building rules?
  • edited April 4
    Members of labor are here too.

    Met Council too
  • He is advocating for “Mitchell Lama 2” model.
  • He wanted to talk about larger issues relating to housing, but he wants to partner with different reps to address existing issues with repairs in the building.
  • This weekend more politicians will be visiting.
  • 1700 Bedford Avenue has four elevators. It is the largest building in the complex. Yet, two elevators have been out of service for over 1.5 months. Residents have been trying to get them fixed. There are ECB violations on record in relation to the elevators.

  • edited April 5
    @whynot_31
    re:"Is building management continuing to pursue eviction against any and all tenants who are late on their rent or violate building rules?"


    I would suspect so (re: late payment). As for violation of building rules...what rules?


    The involvement of Met Council is encouraging.


    Last night's meeting apparently had more attendees than in a while.

  • edited April 5
    This is why the loss of BROOKLYNIAN will be disappointing. :neutral:

  • Eviction cases for rule breaking are known as "holdover cases". Here are the rules that landlords have on their side: http://metcouncilonhousing.org/help_and_answers/intro_to_holdover_evictions
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