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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 2:18 pm EST     Reply with quote

Is there any news about a new bar/restaurant being opened on St. John's and Franklin?

I heard it was going to be opened by the owner of Soda on Vanderbilt. Any input would be appreciated.

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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 2:21 pm EST     Reply with quote

if this is true, interesting choice of location. i would've put it farther north of eastern parkway.

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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 3:14 pm EST     Reply with quote

That is true...the owner owns Southpaw in Park Slope (maybe Soda too).....should be a great addition


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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 3:15 pm EST     Reply with quote

nice. when is it scheduled to open?

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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 3:20 pm EST     Reply with quote

mr. met wrote:
if this is true, interesting choice of location. i would've put it farther north of eastern parkway.


Why? I'd think that closer to EP would guarantee more folks stopping in on their way home from the train, no?

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Post Fri Feb 08, 08 3:26 pm EST     Reply with quote

yea, there's definitely more foot traffic down there, so it would make sense to put the bar there.

i guess i would put it further north on franklin because:

1. i live further north
2. it's quieter

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Post Sat Feb 09, 08 5:58 pm EST     Reply with quote

xx wrote:
That is true...the owner owns Southpaw in Park Slope (maybe Soda too).....should be a great addition


The owner of Soda and the co-owner of Southpaw are working together on a new bar on St. Johns Place near Franklin. They've been twice to the community board applying for a liquor license, so this is not a rumor, but an actual factual. They should be opening the place soon. Any locals near St. Johns Place and Franklin, please check it out. I believe the place is on the south side of the block bet. Franklin and Classon.

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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 1:08 am EST     Reply with quote

any idea where this building will be? most of that block is residential or that parking garage. i'm kind of scared it could be the former fish shop on the corner next to the chinese place...if so my windows will be right over the bar and any loud noises that come out of it. urgh.

fingers crossed that it is a different location! or at least that is not too noisy on weeknights.


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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 1:30 am EST     Reply with quote

Apparently the location is 618 St. Johns. Tuesday night is a community board meeting. This sounds good.

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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 1:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

The space is on the south side of St. John's close to Franklin across from the old fish place. Its a small space next to a parking area. I guess the parking area will be the outdoor space. It could be cool especially if the guys from Soda are involved. Also, I have noticed some stuff going on in the old fish place, It looks like it's used for storage but maybe a new tenant wont be far off.

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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 1:46 pm EST     Reply with quote

ok...that's not right below me but right across the street. i guess it couldn't be too much noisier than it already is. if they have burgers as good as soda's i'll be happy Very Happy

it would be nice if the fish store would become a fish store again. there is really nowhere to get seafood around the neighborhood that i've found...


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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 1:50 pm EST     Reply with quote

it would be great to have a bar at the location

any word on when it will open?

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Post Mon Feb 11, 08 2:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

lindsay6 wrote:
it would be nice if the fish store would become a fish store again. there is really nowhere to get seafood around the neighborhood that i've found...

When I walked past this weekend, it looked like the place on Nostrand and St. Johns was closed and the counters tore out and stuff.
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Post Tue Feb 12, 08 2:08 am EST     Reply with quote

The community board meeting is Thursday night
Marcus Garvey Nursing Home
810 St. Marks Avenue (corner of Brooklyn Avenue)
Thursday, February 14, 2008
7:00 PM

toly (from soda) came to the dec crow hill meeting and described the place as being:
at 620 St. Johns: a small upscale restaurant/bar/European café that will serve dinner and brunch. He says it will be a low-key establishment utilizing outdoor space in the warm months

Blue Moon Fish:grand army plaza greenmarket on saturdays for SUPER fish, get there early, they are only there 7-3
i believe they attend all year round, but if you are making a special trip you might want to call Greenmarket (212-788-7476) to check during the winter months.
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daver wrote:
lindsay6 wrote:
it would be nice if the fish store would become a fish store again. there is really nowhere to get seafood around the neighborhood that i've found...

When I walked past this weekend, it looked like the place on Nostrand and St. Johns was closed and the counters tore out and stuff.


You're talking about the store on the east side of the street, the Jamaican fish place?

So far as I know, the fish place on the west side near the laundromat is still doing well. They don't have much of a selection, but the fish is very fresh.

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Post Tue Feb 12, 08 12:17 pm EST     Reply with quote

I received a notice that the community board meeting is tonight not Thursday.

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According to CB 8 website, the meeting is thursday:

http://www.brooklyncb8.org/calendar.htm


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Post Wed Feb 13, 08 10:46 pm EST     Reply with quote

i beilieve this is the confusion,
the issue was in front of this committee, not the full board:
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Meeting Day: 2nd Tuesday of the Month
Time: 6:30 p.m.
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Post Thu Feb 14, 08 9:09 am EST     Reply with quote

neene wrote:


Blue Moon Fish:grand army plaza greenmarket on saturdays for SUPER fish, get there early, they are only there 7-3
i believe they attend all year round, but if you are making a special trip you might want to call Greenmarket (212-788-7476) to check during the winter months.


they're not there in the winter. not sure when they return. agree that they are splendid.
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Post Sat Feb 16, 08 12:32 am EST     Reply with quote

How was the meeting?


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Post Mon Feb 25, 08 3:33 pm EST     Reply with quote

so this place isn't 95 south, which is what I've been thinking from the thread title?

so confusing (but awesome) to have a katrillion new bars/restaurants in CH.
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Post Mon Feb 25, 08 6:20 pm EST     Reply with quote

Did not realize there was anothern thread, so there you go...Go TOLY; YOU ARE THE MAYOR OF PROSPECT HEIGHTS!!! AND SOON CROWN HEIGHTS!!
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sneakyonstmarks wrote:
Did not realize there was anothern thread, so there you go...Go TOLY; YOU ARE THE MAYOR OF PROSPECT HEIGHTS!!! AND SOON CROWN HEIGHTS!!


that's creepy. don't get me wrong - I love Toly. (and he knows who I am - ask him if you're concerned) but for reals, calling him the mayor of PH and CH? if I were him, I'd be gunning for runner-up to ratner.

in any case, he knows how to run a good bar, make a good burger and can even pull off soon dobu jigae so, in my book, Toly is a great bar owner. and if I could still stand to be around zillions of 25 year olds, I'd be in Soda on a regular basis as was my usual MO.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 08 11:37 am EST     Reply with quote

Good news on the new bar. Franklin Park is (allegedly) set to open in two weeks!!! I walked by on Saturday, noticed two large men unloading picnic tables for their outside seating, & asked them when they were going to open. To which, they replied, "Soon... two weeks." That would translate into April 11th/12th.

Of course, we'll all believe it when we see it. Although, I didn't get close enough to look inside and judge if the place was really two weeks away from opening, from what I did see, that might not be an overestimation.


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Post Wed Apr 02, 08 12:23 pm EST     Reply with quote

It's Dakotas way here. So that's whats going in there. My daughter just moved out of that building last week to Fort Green and was wondering what they were putting in there. We couldn't figure out why the brick pillars to the driveway had a lovely new sign saying Franklin Park on it . She said she thought there had been squatters in there before.
I can't imagine how they can be open in 10 days. We looked inside and it's a bare room with no windows in place and the only thing there was a toilet.
But it would be a great location for a restaurant.


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Post Wed Apr 02, 08 2:04 pm EST     Reply with quote

One more place for the CRAWL!

This place is right across the street from that HOMAGE Burger place (yes, next to the fish place), the one with the good burger, herb fries, and awesome (from what I hear) veggie burger.

This will be an interesting corner. and my tattoo joint is also right there.....hmmmm, summer's starting to become visualized.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 08 7:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

Franklin Park is a bar you would expect to see in Williamsburg. I peaked in and it looks real nice. Almost done as far as I can tell. It is not across from Homage?? Wrong street.

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Post Thu Apr 03, 08 12:32 pm EST     Reply with quote

I would be very surprised it they are open in 2 weeks. The current wait for a liquor license is on the order of 6 months and they just put in their application in Dec. Maybe they will open with food but no liquor to start.

Plan b put in their application in June of last year and it still hasn't been approved. Same for the bar going into the old Utopia/PKs space on Washington and Park.

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Post Thu Apr 03, 08 2:20 pm EST     Reply with quote

TheBurgerking wrote:
Franklin Park is a bar you would expect to see in Williamsburg. I peaked in and it looks real nice. Almost done as far as I can tell. It is not across from Homage?? Wrong street.


MY bad- you are correct. And now I'm even happier cause that's even CLOSER to my house.
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Post Fri Apr 04, 08 3:30 pm EST     Reply with quote

TheBurgerking wrote:
Franklin Park is a bar you would expect to see in Williamsburg. I peaked in and it looks real nice. Almost done as far as I can tell. It is not across from Homage?? Wrong street.


I walked passed there a few minutes ago. Gee, how can you tell it looks like some Williamsburg place? Nice sign and mailbox Confused but yea, there's just that stupid toilet sitting there, and the place is a MESS! LOL- yea, NOT happening in two weeks. Only if they get the patrons to help them clean the place up!
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Whatchuwant wrote:
TheBurgerking wrote:
Franklin Park is a bar you would expect to see in Williamsburg. I peaked in and it looks real nice. Almost done as far as I can tell. It is not across from Homage?? Wrong street.


I walked passed there a few minutes ago. Gee, how can you tell it looks like some Williamsburg place? Nice sign and mailbox Confused but yea, there's just that stupid toilet sitting there, and the place is a MESS! LOL- yea, NOT happening in two weeks. Only if they get the patrons to help them clean the place up!


If you walk through the gate and towards the back you can clearly see a bar and a very well designed space. Take my word for it.

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Post Mon Apr 07, 08 11:27 am EST     Reply with quote

So the room with the toilet isn't going to be the main room for the bar?? And, I guess, the main entrance will be down the driveway with the Franklin Place sign?

That could be a challenge for visibility to attract new customers.

And I hope they have a great exterminator, cause the building is crawling with cockroaches.


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Post Wed Apr 09, 08 11:31 pm EST     Reply with quote

i walked by the place today and saw a guy inside. I asked him when they were opening and he said next week. I didn't get a chance to look inside the bar, but the picnic-style tables they are putting outside look really cool. It will be an awesome place to hang out when it gets warm.

I am officially happy 'Very Happy'

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Post Thu Apr 10, 08 12:22 pm EST     Reply with quote

well ,45py7x, logic dictates that the room with the toilet is probably the bathroom, not the main room Smile

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If you looked at that building you would never know there was anywhere behind it that could be a bar, especially since the driveway area has been used for the dumpster and strewn garbage for the past year. Only the empty room with the toilet looked to be the only possible space for a bar, thus the conclusion that it was to be the bar area. It looked way too small for any kind of bar and, as Whatchuwant agreed, it seemed only to house a toilet.


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Post Fri Apr 11, 08 9:41 am EST     Reply with quote

One thing keeps nagging me...when they open (hopefully soon) will they already have a liquor liscence? Or just food for now?

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Post Fri Apr 11, 08 10:20 am EST     Reply with quote

it looked great last night, as did the wine bar at classon & st. johns.

couldn't get a drink to save my life at 95 south.
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Is the wine bar on Classon and St. Johns Place open? Could you describe what you saw in greater detail, alafairnadia?

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Post Fri Apr 11, 08 11:51 am EST     Reply with quote

It's not open- but they are certainly moving along (Franklin Park, especially- the tables are out and what was hiding behind the cars, trucks, and dumpsters shows a large glass wall containing the main bar part). The Wine bar (need more coffee, forgetting name...) has its sign up, along with the website (wait, Sophia's???), Argh. You can't see inside though, paper on windows.
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abigail's, i think.
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Post Fri Apr 11, 08 2:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

Photos! And it's not the room with the toilet Smile

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Here's the link:
http://nycblog.citysearch.com/imbible/2008/04/franklin-park-1.html

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OMG! It's gorg! Here's more from that blog:

Move over, Radegast--you're not the only shiny new beer garden in Brooklyn anymore. Introducing Franklin Park (on St. John's Pl. between Franklin and Classon), the latest in a slew of new and notable bars to set up shop in BK. This one is the brainchild of Matthew Roff, co-owner of Southpaw. In an email that was forwarded to us, Roff described his latest venture (we've bolded the salient points):

Franklin Park bar & beer garden is located in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn, three blocks from the Brooklyn Museum and Brooklyn Botanic Garden ... Franklin Park was a 600 sq. ft. 3-car garage with 1400 sq. ft. of outdoor space. We converted the garage to an 800 sq ft. bar boasting 12 taps and a 1200 sq. ft. outdoor patio with multiple picnic tables and other outdoor tables and accessories. A kitchen will soon follow but for now the bar is where it's at.

We're told Franklin Park is awaiting its liquor license, but barring any unforeseen problems with that the bar will supposedly open its doors "within the next two weeks." We're also promised a photo by Friday, which we'll share as soon as it arrives.

There a comment below from someone who flips out cause they're saying its in Prospect Heights when its actually in Crown. Hilarious.
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right? stunning. I can't fuckin' wait!
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And away we go! http://nycblog.citysearch.com/imbible/2008/04/franklin-park-2.html


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