That block has a lot of open storefronts now. Why?
nkotsonis Regular
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 130
Mon Feb 04, 08 11:28 am EST
Old Time Brooklyn wrote:
That block has a lot of open storefronts now. Why?
That I cannot answer. I only know what happened with regards to the cafe.
Old Time Brooklyn Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 642
Mon Feb 04, 08 11:31 am EST
Do you see local businesses filling those fronts or national chains? On 7th Avenue as a whole?
nkotsonis Regular
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 130
Mon Feb 04, 08 11:55 am EST
Old Time Brooklyn wrote:
Do you see local businesses filling those fronts or national chains? On 7th Avenue as a whole?
The general size of the stores along 7th Avenue are not suitable for most of the big chains. For instance, The Gap, Banana Republic, etc, usually require a min. of 2,000 sq. ft. for their locations. Except for a maybe two or three buildings along 7th avenue, none of the other buildings can accomodate their requirements. Now that is not to say that the smaller chains and franchises cannot use these stores, but it would then do what Starbucks did, take over both stores of a building and connect in the back, behind the residential staircase.
One also has to remember, and I stated this in an earlier thread, the payment of Real Estate Taxes for commercial buildings are based on the income from the tenants. What alot of owners do is pass down these costs to the commercial tenants. There can come the time when the costs are counter productive, and the merchants will leave. The owners, stuck with these high assessments from prior tenants will, if they can subsidize the hit, keep a space vacant in order to reduce the taxes in the future. The city will reduce your taxes only after the tenant leaves and the space is vacant. So it can sometimes pay for the owner to keep the space empty.
The issues involved are never as cut and dried as some people want to believe. It's an unfortunate reality of life, that things are done for the most ridiculous but legitimate reasons.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Mon Feb 04, 08 1:58 pm EST
know what's coming into the space on 7th between union and berkeley next to amin?
gowanuslounge is predicting another oko frozen yogurt place...
looks like whatever it is, is coming soon...
bluecat Local
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 201
Sun Jul 27, 08 11:03 pm EST
A new sign in the window of 2nd St Cafe says "Children's Rx" or maybe it was "Kid's Rx" is coming. Is it a pharmacy, a healthy kids restaurant... Anyone in the know?
there's a place in the west village that is a child's pharmacy. I don't really see the point (and I have a child), but if it saves me from dealing with rite aid, I guess that's good.
MeredithB Happy-Go-Lucky Malcontent
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Here and There
Mon Jul 28, 08 8:33 am EST
Well, good luck if it's a pharmacy. They are asking $14,000 per month!!!!
You'd have to sell a lot of ridilin to make that nut. _________________ Walking on the beaches looking at the peaches.
meganlibrarian "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 427 Location: in the gutter looking @ the stars
Mon Jul 28, 08 8:38 am EST
A children's pharmacy, at that.
If one is actually moving into that space.
I'm the parent of an almost-4-month old, and personally think that a children's pharmacy is a tad daft. Ostensibly, the folks there would be more attuned to the needs of children's prescriptions, etc.. Regardless... uh, shouldn't any pharmacy be able to dispense the prescriptions that a doctor hands out? Color me unimaginative, but I'd put "children's drugstore" in the same category as "children's boutique": something nice enough, but nothing that I'll likely ever set foot in. _________________ Windsor Terrace=>Park Slope=>Prospect Heights=>Park Slope.
well if you had a kids centered business I guess PS is the place to locate a second branch. I see they have a Thomas the Tank Engine table at their Hudson St location. Hopefully they'll set up one here an take the cut-throat pressure off the one in Barnes & Noble.
meganlibrarian "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 427 Location: in the gutter looking @ the stars
well if you had a kids centered business I guess PS is the place to locate a second branch. I see they have a Thomas the Tank Engine table at their Hudson St location. Hopefully they'll set up one here an take the cut-throat pressure off the one in Barnes & Noble.
Oh, totally agreed. I'm not surprised at all. _________________ Windsor Terrace=>Park Slope=>Prospect Heights=>Park Slope.
pastoralia Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 612
Mon Jul 28, 08 9:23 am EST
Ugh...how boring. And $14,000 a month? That is seriously insane. They need to take their own medicine.
The Chipster Irregular
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 678
Mon Jul 28, 08 10:45 am EST
$14,000.00 a month. I just wanted to write that out. A month?!! Without a liquor license?! I guess prescriptions would be the only way to make that...maybe they'll have xanibars in the back for all the parents too!! _________________ Ask a burning question, get a burning answer.
Jamzer Lifer
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 914 Location: Park F'ing Slope
Mon Jul 28, 08 11:00 am EST
Why on earth does Park Slope need another pharmacy (even one that caters to kids) when we have the most outstanding pharmacy ever in Palma?
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Mon Jul 28, 08 12:23 pm EST
Seriously? A pharmacy geared to kids? umm, what is the point of that? If my kids ever need a prescription filled, why would I go there as opposed to a regular pharmacy?
Sounds like a ridiculous idea, but, at least it's not another cell phone store, right?
new2hood ...but not so much
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 776
Mon Jul 28, 08 2:32 pm EST
i think they put fun flavors in stuff, or make medicine into gummy bears, or some such thing. Maybe they'll have classes? Or sell kids eyeglasses?
let me see if i've got this right: a kid's pharmacy is going in, 2-or-3-doors away from where an ice cream shop went out of business? does this make sense?
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:32 pm EST
new2hood wrote:
i think they put fun flavors in stuff, or make medicine into gummy bears, or some such thing. Maybe they'll have classes? Or sell kids eyeglasses?
The pharmacies around here put flavors into kid's prescriptions now-not sure about making them into gummy bears though. What sort of classes would a pharmacy have?
scarlett Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 2710
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:37 pm EST
It makes sense given the over diagnoses of ADHD and Autism and whatnot. Designer kids drugs for LD/ADD/AHDH?Aspergers that taste like bubblegum hooray!!!!!! Otherwise I know a few loudmouthed PS kids that could use some valium!
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:40 pm EST
did you all look at the website?
it's not just a pharmacy...that's one tiny portion of it.
it's also books, baby items, a baby registry, gift baskets, environmentally friendly household items, vitamins, skin care, hair care and dental care.
i personally think it will be a huge hit in that location.
and i'm not even a baby person and it sounds useful.
(it was also voted the best pharmacy in nyc in 2007 by new york magazine)
Livetotravel Rent Stabilized
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1630 Location: A block from the Park
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:47 pm EST
I'm totally and utterly stunned - I have no words to express whatever the hell it is that I am experiencing right this moment upon discovering this kidsrx inform................... _________________ But that's impossible.
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 3138 Location: Underhill Ave.
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:54 pm EST
scarlett wrote:
It makes sense given the over diagnoses of ADHD and Autism and whatnot. Designer kids drugs for LD/ADD/AHDH?Aspergers that taste like bubblegum hooray!!!!!! Otherwise I know a few loudmouthed PS kids that could use some valium!
Just an FYI its not all about ADHD - NYC has a high number of children who are asthmatic as well as suffer from diabetes. There are many parents who can just barely afford health insurance and the cheapest ones will not cover certain medications unless they are ordered on-line and sometimes if you forget - it can mean life or death for you child.
Carmen Mayor of Snark Slope
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 3172 Location: 7th st at 5th ave
Mon Jul 28, 08 4:57 pm EST
stacey wrote:
scarlett wrote:
It makes sense given the over diagnoses of ADHD and Autism and whatnot. Designer kids drugs for LD/ADD/AHDH?Aspergers that taste like bubblegum hooray!!!!!! Otherwise I know a few loudmouthed PS kids that could use some valium!
Just an FYI its not all about ADHD - NYC has a high number of children who are asthmatic as well as suffer from diabetes. There are many parents who can just barely afford health insurance and the cheapest ones will not cover certain medications unless they are ordered on-line and sometimes if you forget - it can mean life or death for you child.
How will this pharmacy solve the problem of un or under insured parents of asthmatic children? _________________ whoa hey whoa hey whoa
stacey Beyond Karma
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 3138 Location: Underhill Ave.
Mon Jul 28, 08 6:19 pm EST
Sorry Carmen let me clear it up
I don't use this pharmacy my co-worker swears by this place because they are able to give you doses of medications in easy to use forms (i.e, lollipops, etc.). She said its nice to have people who are specifically geared and knowledgeable about most childhood sicknesses/diseases. This pharmacy carries the medications that are pretty much only available through mail order (such as Child Health Plus covered meds) like nebulizer inserts, inhalers, and individually tailored doses of the common diabetic medications and of course if you happen to not get that package or if you forget to order its a lifesaver to be able to get it right away.
I also wanted to make a point that its not only ADD/ADHD affect Brooklyn's children.
Jamzer Lifer
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 914 Location: Park F'ing Slope
Mon Jul 28, 08 7:02 pm EST
stacey wrote:
Sorry Carmen let me clear it up
I don't use this pharmacy my co-worker swears by this place because they are able to give you doses of medications in easy to use forms (i.e, lollipops, etc.). She said its nice to have people who are specifically geared and knowledgeable about most childhood sicknesses/diseases. This pharmacy carries the medications that are pretty much only available through mail order (such as Child Health Plus covered meds) like nebulizer inserts, inhalers, and individually tailored doses of the common diabetic medications and of course if you happen to not get that package or if you forget to order its a lifesaver to be able to get it right away.
I also wanted to make a point that its not only ADD/ADHD affect Brooklyn's children.
I don't buy it. I got nebulizer inserts at my local pharmacy (Palma) and kids don't need candy flavored medicine (talking as a parent here). Seems like dressed up commericalism to me. I'm sure it is a nice place and I wish them well. I guess it is a good thing that it is not CVS, but I just really like Frank and the guys at Palma. I hope this does not hurt them, because I can't take A&S and Palma closing in the same year.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1261 Location: PS Bklyn
Mon Jul 28, 08 8:15 pm EST
I don't wish them well. I think it's ridiculous to have a pharmacy geared towards kids! I'm not that surprised though since any google check shows you that millions of kids are being prescribed psychotropic drugs in addition to all the other drugs they're given like ritalin, ADD etc.
Medicine in lollipops? Medicine is NOT supposed to be fun or taste good. Why confuse kids. Good lord. I feel sorry for kids today.
J0518 Crabby Native
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 593 Location: Park Place
Tue Jul 29, 08 1:35 pm EST
"It makes sense given the over diagnoses of ADHD and Autism and whatnot. Designer kids drugs for LD/ADD/AHDH?Aspergers that taste like bubblegum hooray!!!!!! Otherwise I know a few loudmouthed PS kids that could use some valium!"
I think that's a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Regardless, I think this will fit right in in a neighborhood which already has a bakery for dogs.
Brooke Lynn Knight Coffee Shop Regular
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 276
Tue Jul 29, 08 2:50 pm EST
I honestly don't get it -- virtually all drugs approved for use in children already come in pediatric formulations (ie, sweet liquid vs pills or capsules). I get inhalers and all associated equipment for my kid at Neergaard, and the 5th Av one is open 24 hours with, I believe, a pharmacist there at all times. That's saved my bacon more than once, let me tell you. What Rx's do children need that can't be gotten at Neergaard, Palma, or another local place? _________________ i blame such comments on boredom and drinkng, this is why we need more green spaces
-- Karl the Druid
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Jul 29, 08 4:43 pm EST
i find it to be uniquely new york that people seem to think that EVERY new store, restaurant or bar should cater to them.
so there's a children's pharmacy opening up. big deal. it's one store of 100's in park slope. clearly by the fact that they've had a location on hudson street in the west village for a couple years (with probably double or triple rent than here on 7th avenue) means they do have a customer base. their distinction for best pharmacy in new york (by nymag) in 2007 says something also. to me, anyway.
no, i will never set foot in this place most likely.
but i also prefer having something on that corner than either 2nd street cafe (which was pretty mediocre, in my opinion and not somewhere i ever planned to eat at again) or the vacant storefront which has been sitting almost a year.
not EVERY single store needs to be for YOU!
Brooke Lynn Knight Coffee Shop Regular
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 276
Tue Jul 29, 08 5:16 pm EST
beljzm, not sure whether that was directed at me, but I don't have any beef with this store. And if it was directed at me, you didn't answer my question.
Actually, my guess is that, like Neergaard, they'll straddle the line between "pharmacy" and "chatchka/toy store" and become a destination for kids on the way home from school, tempted by toy displays in the windows. Just a guess. But I don't know how else they'll make their rent. _________________ i blame such comments on boredom and drinkng, this is why we need more green spaces
-- Karl the Druid
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Tue Jul 29, 08 5:22 pm EST
sorry...no, that was not directed at anyone in particular.
i'm not sure how they'll pay their rent either, but i say the same thing when i walk by the other 25 children's "boutiques," dog bakeries and thai restaurants in the slope.
maybe they got a deal on the rent since it's been sitting there so long unoccupied?
maybe they do a large online business?
maybe the gift baskets, books and baby registry brings in most of the income?
i don't know, but this place seems more of a one stop shop than some of the other places i walk by.
Garfunky the only living boy in new york
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 620
Wed Jul 30, 08 12:00 pm EST
belzjm wrote:
maybe they got a deal on the rent since it's been sitting there so long unoccupied?
I dont know either the new tenant or the LL,
but in general that statement is unlikely.
Its not an apt that you can just raise the rent to market price next year.
Its a 5 to 10 year committment. With pre determined annual increases.
It also takes a good month for lawyers to argue over clauses, and "lease out" could mean that 2 months go by only for the lawyers not to be able to agree over a language issue in the lease so , dead deal.
heres the math for you
IF the rent is ,lets pick a number and assume it "fair market value"
$10k a month,
and its been vacant oh say 6 months,
LL loss = 60k
so LL panics .drops rent to 8k
rents it immediately,
LL loss = minimum of 250k over 10 years.
or
2 years worth of rent .
Just trying to give you some insight to the thought process and breakeven point.
belzjm Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1366
Wed Jul 30, 08 12:05 pm EST
thanks garfunky. makes total sense.
i guess i was grasping for straws, since i'm confused how so many places in park slope manage to stay open with such astronomical rents.
i try my best to buy everything i can in the neighborhood to support these local businesses, so i get slightly hot under the collar when i hear people trashing things before they've even opened.
Garfunky the only living boy in new york
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 620
Wed Jul 30, 08 2:31 pm EST
belzjm wrote:
thanks garfunky. makes total sense.
belzjm wrote:
i guess i was grasping for straws, since i'm confused how so many places in park slope manage to stay open with such astronomical rents..
They make alot more $ then they let on.
for example,
I was shocked to learn a bar i occasion in queens turns 22k a day
belzjm wrote:
i try my best to buy everything i can in the neighborhood to support these local businesses, so i get slightly hot under the collar when i hear people trashing things before they've even opened.
I'm with you on that
The whole "walk a mile in the other person shoes"
before one totally trashes another seems to have been lost on many members of this board.
The Chipster Irregular
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 678
Wed Jul 30, 08 3:29 pm EST
A friend of mine was talking about how much money they made this one night, I thought he said "$6,000.00" He actually said "$6,000.00 MORE than the other nights." (Insert jealous emoticon here)
Some people make money locally (bars) but you'd be surprised at how many of the little stores struggle to get by; figuring out exactly how many zagnuts you need to sell to pay the rent; laying off employees; not running the a/c, etc..
I shop locally and I mean it. I go to the hardware stores and am relieved I don't have to go to Target. For anything. And I don't.
Kids RX is perfect for Park Slope. Get em with the toys, and then sell them your "Eco Marketing" so they leave feeling "green." Everybody wins. _________________ Ask a burning question, get a burning answer.
abs276 Regular
Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 137 Location: Bergen/Classon
Thu Aug 14, 08 9:28 am EST
either they changed the business going in there, or they changed the name, because it was definitely a different sign in the window when i passed by on the bus this morning. don't remember the new name unfortunately. anyone know?
meganlibrarian "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 427 Location: in the gutter looking @ the stars
Thu Aug 14, 08 5:13 pm EST
abs276 wrote:
either they changed the business going in there, or they changed the name, because it was definitely a different sign in the window when i passed by on the bus this morning. don't remember the new name unfortunately. anyone know?
I snapped a cellphone camera pic this afternoon...
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