Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 6537 Location: Utopian Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 4:31 pm EST
FIDO notes that several people got tickets yesterday at 9:01am, at the end of dog off-leash hours in Prospect Park. There appears to be a special ticket-writing sweep at the moment, so watch out.
I am for off-leash regulation, but in the frozen dead of winter there's no reason to be so down to the instant about it...other than to write easy tickets.
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Tue Jan 12, 10 4:36 pm EST
wow i'm surprise they didn't go after the dog owners sooner . cause they got the car owners and business violations.
its the city's way of not raising taxes with ticket "taxes"
i hope to the gods that my tenants don't let fire dept inspectors in cause they leave their shoes and stuff in the hallway. people get tickets for those too. I gotten one. I told that tenant don't let fire or building dept guys in cause I would get a ticket for their convenience. _________________ Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away.
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exactly13 Regular
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Tue Jan 12, 10 4:38 pm EST
I received a seat belt ticket when moving my car across the street for alternate side. Fought it and lost. I drove 20 feet without my belt. Crazy, I know.
OpossumQueen Minister of Propaganda
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1933 Location: Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 4:51 pm EST
Off-leash dogs are definitely the biggest problem/illegal activity in Prospect Park [insert sarcasm]. Dog owners are just the nicest, safest target compared to the drug dealing and prostitution folks.
I wish they could ticket the riders for all the horse crap that has been all over non-bridle trails lately. Gross.
Also, who else wants to use the park when it's 25 degrees? Nobody else is there in this weather except a few runners and I like the idea that our park is being used as much as possible.
rezist Regular
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 58
Tue Jan 12, 10 5:17 pm EST
The key, as I have found in avoiding tickets, is to walk your off leash dog where the drug dealers and prostitutes are. The Vale of Cashmere, Nellie's Lawn, and The Rose garden are often full of some unsavory characters to say the least. However I've not gotten a ticket in the years I've walked my dog there. I rarely see police either. Go figure.
OpossumQueen Minister of Propaganda
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1933 Location: Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 5:29 pm EST
rezist wrote:
The key, as I have found in avoiding tickets, is to walk your off leash dog where the drug dealers and prostitutes are. The Vale of Cashmere, Nellie's Lawn, and The Rose garden are often full of some unsavory characters to say the least. However I've not gotten a ticket in the years I've walked my dog there. I rarely see police either. Go figure.
Haha...agreed. My only interaction with cops or park rangers there has been them telling me (small female) I shouldn't be in such a dangerous part of the park. I walk there almost daily after off-leash (with dog on-leash) and I've also never seen a bird-watcher there. Guess they're too scared to video dealers
I once had a dealer (with a super dog-aggressive dog) tell me I couldn't be there with a dog. The idiot even pretended to call the police on me.
I still think it's sad that they are going after a pretty good group of park users at 9:01, even if I'm not out there.
rockhound LEASH YOU DOGS!
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 129 Location: Lincoln & Underhill PH
Tue Jan 12, 10 5:49 pm EST
Good. It's a shame that FIDO feels it necessary to "warn" people who abuse the off leash privilege in Prospect Park that they might get ticketed. Why does this "good group of park users" need warnings in order to do the right thing and follow the rules?
FIDO seems more interested in helping scofflaws not get caught, than encouraging dog owners to obey the rules and respect the rights of other park users.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 1261 Location: PS Bklyn
Tue Jan 12, 10 7:06 pm EST
rockhound wrote:
Good. It's a shame that FIDO feels it necessary to "warn" people who abuse the off leash privilege in Prospect Park that they might get ticketed. Why does this "good group of park users" need warnings in order to do the right thing and follow the rules?
FIDO seems more interested in helping scofflaws not get caught, than encouraging dog owners to obey the rules and respect the rights of other park users.
I have no bone in this but it was pointed out the tickets started at 9:01. Their website says they encourage dog owners to follow the rules BUT how about a 5 minute grace period. Maybe in the dead of winter a 5 minute grace period is not a bad thing. Course Nanny Bloomberg is on another attack of what we put in our mouths. Screw jobs lets crack down on salt users. But I digress.
winstonsmith Regular
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Poop Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 7:08 pm EST
OpossumQueen wrote:
Off-leash dogs are definitely the biggest problem/illegal activity in Prospect Park [insert sarcasm]. Dog owners are just the nicest, safest target compared to the drug dealing and prostitution folks.
I wish they could ticket the riders for all the horse crap that has been all over non-bridle trails lately. Gross.
Also, who else wants to use the park when it's 25 degrees? Nobody else is there in this weather except a few runners and I like the idea that our park is being used as much as possible.
On Monday I was one of the few runners who might have liked to run near the meadow, but could not because of all the off leash dogs at NOON. Some dog owners are among the most selfish users of the Prospect Park. They fail to realize that their off leach dog prohibits many other people from using that area. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 6537 Location: Utopian Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 7:13 pm EST
rockhound wrote:
Good. It's a shame that FIDO feels it necessary to "warn" people who abuse the off leash privilege in Prospect Park that they might get ticketed. Why does this "good group of park users" need warnings in order to do the right thing and follow the rules?
FIDO seems more interested in helping scofflaws not get caught, than encouraging dog owners to obey the rules and respect the rights of other park users.
I don't think that's fair, rockhound. FIDO seems most interested in negotiating and keeping a good environment for everybody in the park. I (not FIDO) posted WATCH OUT because I think this is needlessly overzealous enforcement.
9:01?? c'mon.
For the sake of fairness, here's the rest of what FIDO put on their site:
FIDO Brooklyn wrote:
Ticket Blitz
Here we go again:
In response to "supposed" repeated complaints to 311; the parks department has sent forth its enforcement arm to ticket anyone off-leash, beginning at 9:01 am!
On Monday, January 11th, several people in the Long Meadow got tickets immediately after off-leash hours expired from enforcement on foot. So be warned. Be suspicious of enforcement disguised as walking tree trunks or upright Newfies carrying ticket pads!
Is this fair?
Rules are rules - our website clearly states the off-leash hours. There is certainly no excuse for being off-leash along the wooded trails at ANY TIME, nor off-leash during random hours of the day. Ditto for the ballfields even when covered with a foot of snow!
But ticketing people as the clock strikes nine, who are saying goodbye after a morning of off-leash? Give us a break! We're not a menace to anyone. We're just easy pickings. Enforcement gains no respect for acting in this manner.
If the City Council can order a five minute grace period on alternate side parking, maybe the City Council might grant the same grace period for off leash.... Worth a thought?
FIDO In Prospect Park
Commentary just in: Sunday (this past Sunday) and the ball fields were FULL UP with football practice kids -- organized groups playing all over the "Do not play" area that is off limits. WHERE ARE THE COPS FOR THESE GUYS????
My personal enforcement wish is that people who don't pick up their dog poop on the sidewalk get tickets...it is ridiculous when it's cold out. All that poop, frozen to the sidewalk = GROSS.
winstonsmith Regular
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Tue Jan 12, 10 7:32 pm EST
FIDO says
Quote:
Commentary just in: Sunday (this past Sunday) and the ball fields were FULL UP with football practice kids -- organized groups playing all over the "Do not play" area that is off limits. WHERE ARE THE COPS FOR THESE GUYS????
Get a grip. There is a difference. The "Do not play area" is about letting the grass grow. the Leash Law is about safety. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 289 Location: Cortelyou Road
Tue Jan 12, 10 8:39 pm EST
So, winston smith... I take it you're afraid of dogs or have a tendency to cause dogs to attack you? You run *near* the meadow and the off-leash dogs catch your scent on the breeze, form a vicious pack and maul you?
Seriously.... I don't have a dog anymore, but at the park the off-leash dogs are in the middle and joggers are on the paths. In the winter, that's all there is. When it's warm, I understand keeping the lawns clear of dogs so folks can play soccer and lay out etc. But in the winter? What is wrong with dogs in the middle and joggers on the path?
winstonsmith Regular
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Tue Jan 12, 10 9:02 pm EST
Not afraid. Annoyed, and disgusted.
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
I was on the path. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 1933 Location: Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 9:33 pm EST
winstonsmith wrote:
FIDO says
Quote:
Commentary just in: Sunday (this past Sunday) and the ball fields were FULL UP with football practice kids -- organized groups playing all over the "Do not play" area that is off limits. WHERE ARE THE COPS FOR THESE GUYS????
Get a grip. There is a difference. The "Do not play area" is about letting the grass grow. the Leash Law is about safety.
I thought you were a rules are rules person but it sounds like you only care about enforcement of the ones that suit you.
Ticketing for not picking up after a dog would be great sounds much better than hitting people at 9am in the dead of winter for off-leash.
...now leaving this thread as it goes down the same path this topic always does
winstonsmith Regular
Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 151 Location: Poop Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 10:44 pm EST
OpossumQueen wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
FIDO says
Quote:
Commentary just in: Sunday (this past Sunday) and the ball fields were FULL UP with football practice kids -- organized groups playing all over the "Do not play" area that is off limits. WHERE ARE THE COPS FOR THESE GUYS????
Get a grip. There is a difference. The "Do not play area" is about letting the grass grow. the Leash Law is about safety.
I thought you were a rules are rules person but it sounds like you only care about enforcement of the ones that suit you.
Ticketing for not picking up after a dog would be great sounds much better than hitting people at 9am in the dead of winter for off-leash.
...now leaving this thread as it goes down the same path this topic always does
Yes "rules are rules" I am pointing out the fact that walking on grass that is being protected is a "crime" against property. When a selfish dog owner thinks its dog has the right to know me over it is a "crime" against me, a person. There is a difference. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 3172 Location: 7th st at 5th ave
Tue Jan 12, 10 11:11 pm EST
what if I want to roll in that grass? Then its a crime "against" me, indirectly. Similarly to, say, leaving poop on the street? The dog isn't pooping on you, just on the place which you wish to enjoy. I want to enjoy the grass. _________________ whoa hey whoa hey whoa
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
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i hate doogie poop on my sneakers. i got that a few times. yuck. _________________ Fight white guilt and injustice by going to a Native American casino and gamble your money away.
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pmonk Slope n00b
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Tue Jan 12, 10 11:22 pm EST
Well, it is a well known fact that the only group of people who are bigger asshole then dog owners are joggers!
Mpmav1 "Pick Up My Poo"
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 549 Location: South Park Slope
Tue Jan 12, 10 11:27 pm EST
winstonsmith wrote:
On Monday I was one of the few runners who might have liked to run near the meadow, but could not because of all the off leash dogs at NOON. Some dog owners are among the most selfish users of the Prospect Park. They fail to realize that their off leach dog prohibits many other people from using that area.
Wait... no pictures or complaints about poop ?!? _________________ Did Someone Say Walk?
witch-king Trust Fund Partier
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 360 Location: 8th ave@1st st
Wed Jan 13, 10 12:19 am EST
Scofflaw dog owners and reckless stroller pushers menace our neighborhood. When will it end? _________________ your anger is delicious. - dieter
kaiserkai Weirdo
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 178 Location: One pace wide of mentality.
Wed Jan 13, 10 12:06 pm EST
winstonsmith wrote:
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
Id like to see the dog that keels over a grown man while jogging in the Park.
He must be huge, or you must be really small.
And he must have been REALLY happy to see you to track you down on the running path.
So we are talking a 80+lbs dog, singling you out by chance, the biggest anti dog advocate of Brooklyn, and not only wanting to play with you but being SOOOOOO excited to simply run you over.
I have heard some good stories in my time, but this one is defenitely top 10. _________________ -------------
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.
-- Oscar Wilde
rockhound LEASH YOU DOGS!
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 129 Location: Lincoln & Underhill PH
Wed Jan 13, 10 1:17 pm EST
eggcream wrote:
Their website says they encourage dog owners to follow the rules BUT how about a 5 minute grace period. Maybe in the dead of winter a 5 minute grace period is not a bad thing.
About ten years ago, when the whole off leash thing was heating up, I encountered an offleash dog at 10 am. A Parks Department employee in a PEP truck told me they get an hour's grace period, and that I shouldn't mind because loose dogs tearing through the woods are "part of nature". This is not made up.
If the off leash dogs were in a fenced area, with zero tolerance beyond the clearly defined visual limits, then this wouldn't be an issue. Without physical and visual limits, there has to be some other way to set the boundaries, because some people always want to be the exceptions for whom the rules do not apply. Unfortunately, this means the "good park users" will be affected as well.
Jamzer Lifer
Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 914 Location: Park F'ing Slope
Wed Jan 13, 10 2:35 pm EST
kaiserkai wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
Id like to see the dog that keels over a grown man while jogging in the Park.
He must be huge, or you must be really small.
And he must have been REALLY happy to see you to track you down on the running path.
So we are talking a 80+lbs dog, singling you out by chance, the biggest anti dog advocate of Brooklyn, and not only wanting to play with you but being SOOOOOO excited to simply run you over.
I have heard some good stories in my time, but this one is defenitely top 10.
This is a stupid response. A dog does not have to be huge to knock someone over, it just has to get under foot.
Anyway - this is silly. There should be a 5 minute grace period if for no other reason than to give people some leeway for slow watches. After 5 minutes, I say ticket away.
kaiserkai Weirdo
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Wed Jan 13, 10 2:55 pm EST
Jamzer wrote:
This is a stupid response. A dog does not have to be huge to knock someone over, it just has to get under foot.
Sorry still not sold, even with your eloquent use of the word stupid.
A dog no matter what size doesnt approach you out of your field of vision to sneakily get under your foot, just so you can post your disdain afterwards in a community forum. _________________ -------------
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.
-- Oscar Wilde
winstonsmith Regular
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Wed Jan 13, 10 5:44 pm EST
kaiserkai wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
Id like to see the dog that keels over a grown man while jogging in the Park.
He must be huge, or you must be really small.
And he must have been REALLY happy to see you to track you down on the running path.
So we are talking a 80+lbs dog, singling you out by chance, the biggest anti dog advocate of Brooklyn, and not only wanting to play with you but being SOOOOOO excited to simply run you over.
I have heard some good stories in my time, but this one is defenitely top 10.
It was a very small dog and it just jumped on my leg. If you are running in a strait line even a little dog can through you off balance. I did not "keel over" much to the disappointment of the dog's owners who really thought it was funny (and you too I guess).
I am not anti-dog. I am anti selfish dog owner. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
I hate that when dogs jump on my leg, especially when we haven't been properly introduced.
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winstonsmith wrote:
It was a very small dog and it just jumped on my leg. If you are running in a strait line even a little dog can through you off balance. I did not "keel over" much to the disappointment of the dog's owners who really thought it was funny (and you too I guess).
They are great dogs, had one when i was a kid, but my Mother got rid of it because I use to connect the dots.
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winstonsmith Regular
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Hamilton wrote:
I hate that when dogs jump on my leg, especially when we haven't been properly introduced.
You, I like.
That is the point. Why should a dog owner assume I want my leg jumped on. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
I am usually off the long meadow before 9:00 but a couple of weekends ago I stayed late and exactly 9:00 a Park employee in a Park van announced over a speaker off leash hours are over.
Do they do that every weekend?
rockhound LEASH YOU DOGS!
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Thu Jan 14, 10 1:24 pm EST
If not, then they should, if only to educate those who are in denial.
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Thu Jan 14, 10 1:45 pm EST
rockhound wrote:
eggcream wrote:
Their website says they encourage dog owners to follow the rules BUT how about a 5 minute grace period. Maybe in the dead of winter a 5 minute grace period is not a bad thing.
About ten years ago, when the whole off leash thing was heating up, I encountered an offleash dog at 10 am. A Parks Department employee in a PEP truck told me they get an hour's grace period, and that I shouldn't mind because loose dogs tearing through the woods are "part of nature". This is not made up.
If the off leash dogs were in a fenced area, with zero tolerance beyond the clearly defined visual limits, then this wouldn't be an issue. Without physical and visual limits, there has to be some other way to set the boundaries, because some people always want to be the exceptions for whom the rules do not apply. Unfortunately, this means the "good park users" will be affected as well.
Ah, Schumer and his cell phone come to mind re; rules do not apply to some people. A 1 hour grace period is ridiculous and I agree about the fenced in area. But I still think a 5 minute grace period should be allowed for dogs, cars, parking meters etc.
eggcream Carneviento Devotee
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Thu Jan 14, 10 1:59 pm EST
winstonsmith wrote:
kaiserkai wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
Id like to see the dog that keels over a grown man while jogging in the Park.
He must be huge, or you must be really small.
And he must have been REALLY happy to see you to track you down on the running path.
So we are talking a 80+lbs dog, singling you out by chance, the biggest anti dog advocate of Brooklyn, and not only wanting to play with you but being SOOOOOO excited to simply run you over.
I have heard some good stories in my time, but this one is defenitely top 10.
It was a very small dog and it just jumped on my leg. If you are running in a strait line even a little dog can through you off balance. I did not "keel over" much to the disappointment of the dog's owners who really thought it was funny (and you too I guess).
I am not anti-dog. I am anti selfish dog owner.
I'm sorry but if you're running in a straight line how does a small dog jump, and presumably make contact, onto your leg, throw you off balance thereby knocking you off your feet? Was he still hanging on when you landed?
Aren't there any smiley faces with tears running down their face?
pitu Fake Buddhist
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Thu Jan 14, 10 2:02 pm EST
pmonk wrote:
I am usually off the long meadow before 9:00 but a couple of weekends ago I stayed late and exactly 9:00 a Park employee in a Park van announced over a speaker off leash hours are over.
Do they do that every weekend?
I've only seen that occasionally.
winstonsmith Regular
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Thu Jan 14, 10 2:36 pm EST
eggcream wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
kaiserkai wrote:
winstonsmith wrote:
Not "attacked", the dog just wanted to play. I did not even see it coming and it knocked me off my feet.
Id like to see the dog that keels over a grown man while jogging in the Park.
He must be huge, or you must be really small.
And he must have been REALLY happy to see you to track you down on the running path.
So we are talking a 80+lbs dog, singling you out by chance, the biggest anti dog advocate of Brooklyn, and not only wanting to play with you but being SOOOOOO excited to simply run you over.
I have heard some good stories in my time, but this one is defenitely top 10.
It was a very small dog and it just jumped on my leg. If you are running in a strait line even a little dog can through you off balance. I did not "keel over" much to the disappointment of the dog's owners who really thought it was funny (and you too I guess).
I am not anti-dog. I am anti selfish dog owner.
I'm sorry but if you're running in a straight line how does a small dog jump, and presumably make contact, onto your leg, throw you off balance thereby knocking you off your feet? Was he still hanging on when you landed?
Aren't there any smiley faces with tears running down their face?
or maybe I just ran right into it. In any case I did not see it and suddenly it was under my feet. Have fun calling me a lier. Whatever.
But don't start accusing me of kicking a dog. _________________ If 95% of dog owners pick it up %99 of the time, that leaves a lot of crap on the sidewalk.
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Thu Jan 14, 10 6:00 pm EST
Small dogs are more dangerous than pit bulls. Walking past B&H on 34th Street last year, I was assaulted by a white maltese that suddenly lunged on its retractible leash and sank its needle sharp teeth into my jeans cuff. Literally, an ankle biter..its nasty teeth scraped my skin and it hurt for days afterward.
The female owner heard the growl and saw the lunge but JUST KEPT WALKING. Not a word of apology or acknowledgement. It was too late to kick the rat dog into orbit, but I certainly let the whole block know what a stupid and irresponsible owner this chick was.
You can certainly trip over a small dog darting out of nowhere and underfoot, especially if you are directing your attention elsewhere. I almost kicked a teacup Yorkie on a leash in front of Macy's the other day, because while I knew it was in the vicinity, I did not see it underfoot, and the owner was not paying attention to it. My foot did touch it and it was partly lifted off the sidewalk! Where are the rat dog purses when you need them?
pmonk Slope n00b
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Thu Jan 14, 10 9:49 pm EST
Do you think, maybe, it may be you?
rockhound LEASH YOU DOGS!
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Fri Jan 29, 10 12:09 pm EST
Because everyone who gets bitten by a dog deserves it?
kosherdave The Kosherist
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I don't have a dog, but man it's dumb they're ticketing people so close to the 9:00 cut off. And in the winter no less!
I go running in the park A LOT and rarely see others there when it's cold. I feel safter knowing there are at least some dogs running around. I say let them run 24/7 all winter long! Keeps things safe and it's not harming anyone.
Garfunky the only living boy in new york
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Tue Feb 02, 10 2:04 pm EST
The off leash dogs owner deserves the ticket at 9:01 exactly as much as someone who runs up to their car at "10:31" only to see theyre getting a ticket for not moving in time for alt side.
same thing
pitu Fake Buddhist
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Tue Feb 02, 10 3:25 pm EST
Garfunky wrote:
The off leash dogs owner deserves the ticket at 9:01 exactly as much as someone who runs up to their car at "10:31" only to see theyre getting a ticket for not moving in time for alt side.
same thing
I'd like to stay out of the parking argument, or any This is Like that equivalency that spirals off into a tangent on other heated topics . . . but . . .
the difference I see is that the alt side parking is for street cleaning - you wouldn't want to block the sweeper machine, now would you?
Garfunky the only living boy in new york
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Tue Feb 02, 10 3:47 pm EST
wrong,
its not nice that anyone gets a ticket 1 minute after whatever.
it sucks, but
i dont see why the offleash dog rates special "courtesy" consideration.
winstonsmith Regular
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Wed Feb 03, 10 7:04 pm EST
Yea, How much more courtesy time do we have to wait to use the Long Meadow if we don't want to have dogs jumping all over us when we want to enjoy the park?
MissyDoodle Newbie
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Thu Feb 11, 10 10:40 am EST
I agree that tickets at 9:01 is extreme. However, as far as off-leash dogs during regular park hours go -leash laws are in place for everyone's safety. I don't know why some dog owners think the rules don't apply to them. We take our dog to the park on a leash and almost every single time, we are rushed by an off-leash dog. Just yesterday, during the blizzard, we were in the park and a dog ran full-speed across the field right into our leashed dogs face. Our dog pinned that dog, and my husband had to dive between them until the owners bothered to stroll over. They were laughing and barely payed attention. That could have been a dog fight or my husband could have been bitten by their dog. That's very irresponsible! Both dogs were about 50 pounds. As we left, the other dog was still off-leash, racing across the field towards the sled-riding kids. The owners were not even trying to keep up with their dog. Off-leash hours are fun, but otherwise please keep your dog on a leash. Dogs can be hit by cars, bitten or bite others. We see so many posts about lost dogs. If you love your dog, please be responsible for him or her.
butanikku Newbie
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Sat Feb 13, 10 4:34 am EST
two off-leash cops just gave me a summons for walking in prospect park "after hours". total set up, had just walked in off ppsw and got mauled. so needless, so destructive. really puts a sour tasted in my mouth about the park i grew up in. spit.
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. cause they got the car owners and business violations.
but it was pointed out the tickets started at 9:01. Their website says they encourage dog owners to follow the rules BUT how about a 5 minute grace period. Maybe in the dead of winter a 5 minute grace period is not a bad thing. Course Nanny Bloomberg is on another attack of what we put in our mouths. Screw jobs lets crack down on salt users. But I digress.
