[Mr. Tips]

Ive created a collaberative google map where we can pin locations. I *think* I did it right...


Mugging Map


Maybe we can find a trend?

EDIT: fixed link & orphaned tags

[pitu]

That's an interesting idea, Mr. Tips . . .
when I went to your map, it was the entire USA

So I zoomed in a little on Brooklandia. Let's see if these links hold up...okay, their html embed doesn't work, but the regular link does
Here's a more local linkee

edited to fix that durn link

[LincolnAnnex]

I don't see anything up there now. Just, as the last poster mentioned, a map of the USA. On the zoom there's nothing up on the streets yet. Is this interactive? Do we put down places we know of or have personally been mugged on? I like the idea, but i think it is pretty clear where all of this is happenning.

[Fjord]

[prjose56]

I just pulled it up and see three points so far. Seems like the recent ones I've read about.

[King without a crown]

Interesting idea, however accurate pin maps are available to view at the 77 pct. Everything from Homicides, to Grand Larcenies of Automobiles are all mapped out. The problem with your system, is that its based on anonymous posts with no way to question there validity. There have been several Robberies that have occurred that have not been reported on Brooklynian and also a lot that've never been reported at all.

[stacey]

[arches]

Would someone be able to take a picture of the 77th pin map and post it here? Seems like interesting info, but not too convenient for most users to access (unless they make frequent visits to the precinct). I spent a little time living in LA and the LAPD had an online version of what you describe...maybe NYPD has something similar in the works?

[King without a crown]

The Cops must be taking reports, otherwise the 77 precinct wouldn't be designated an Operation Impact Precinct.

[pitu]

[stacey]

[Mr. Tips]

[DenverNougat]

nice work tips!

[jdr55]

I can see it and I think the map is awesome (not the muggings, though).

[sprite]

I think it's a cool idea too. I'm sure the 77th precinct map has more info, but it's great to have a map that's so easily accessible. I do read the mugging threads, but I never seem to remember the locations. This helps me see how close these were to home. (Eeep!) Thanks Tips!
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[poppy13]

Nice job on the google map.

[prospectus]

Muggers seem to love to bash people coming off the Q -- The dots cluster themselves around the Seventh Avenue stop…

[Matt Foley]

This map is great -- I posted a bunch of pins based on muggings and other robberies and violent crime within Park Slope/Prospect Heights/Crown Heights from a couple of sources: The Brooklyn Paper and Errol's Save Brooklyn Now! website.

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/
http://savebrooklynnow.blogspot.com/

Any thoughts as to limiting this map by area/date/type of crime? I'd be inclined to remove non-violent crime, such as car windows being broken, breaking-and-entering, etc., and focus more on mugging-type incidents.

[Ben]

I know this map isn't complete with every incident posted but I found something very interesting. The areas with the most reported incidents are not the ones that people would typically think. For instance, the areas around washington ave, down by pacific/dean and washington/grand/classon, franklin, classon, bedford, etc. do not appear to be hot spots for this type of thing. Rather it is the area by flatbush and the areas coming away from subway stops the present the most danger.

It also shows that while people may perceive that Prospect Heights and the western side of Crown Heights are less safe than areas like Park Slope it doesn't appear to be the case, at least based on this map. It looks like you have a better chance of getting mugged if you get off at the grand army plaza stop than you do at the franklin ave stop.

[Carnivore]

[pitu]

[moufaisbad]

hey!
long time no post. I thought I'd chime in here a little bit.
I think that there has been a jump in crime all over the city, not just here in this 'hood. I think everyone can be super sensitive to their own circumstance. For whatever its value, and im *sure* its not all-inclusive, gothamist has what they call a 'happenings' map http://gothamist.com/labs/map which I'm sure you are all familiar with. and if you watch it with any regularity you'll see that there also seems to be a noticeable jump in crime on the UWS. It might also be in other neighborhoods, but I'm only paying attention to mine (here) and my gf's (there).
I think its good for people to make announcements about this stuff but as its been said before and i wont belabor the point, you live in a city and its everyones responsibility to look out for themselves. But there are added bonus karma points for watching out for your neighbors too!
you would want someone looking out for you.

[prospectus]

When we talk about crime going up or down, I think we should be specific about what kind of crime. In our precinct, which includes Crown Heights, according to the numbers released by the police, here's what kinds of crime went down in 2007 compared to 2006:

- Murders dropped in 2007 to 15 from 23 the year before
- Rape dropped to 17 from 22

Here's what went up or stayed the same:

- Robbery grew to 380 from 354 the year before
- Felony assault went to 329 from 297
- Burglary went to 299 from 263
- Grand Larceny (theft of more than $1,000) stayed about the same at 366 from 364

Property crimes seem to be most of the increase.

I got this stuff from the precinct website: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/crime_preve.....on/crime_statistics.shtml

edited to include the link.

[pitu]

One thing I really like about the possibilities of THIS map is that muggings, with or without assault and with or without showing up on the police blotter (which doesn't show these more *minor* events), would be marked. And we get to see the accumulation, which is different from indvidual reportings, different from the ever-interesting Gothamist map and different from year-end NYPD figures.

Thanks for logging the details of location and which muggings had a violent component, etc.
I sometimes read the pd blotter in a local paper, but I don't always. A daylight mugging on my block turned up on the map that I didn't know about...

[Mr. Tips]

I cant believe how many pins there are already! As far as limiting the "type" of crime, I think we can assign colors to pins tp represent differnt types of crime.

blue = mugged
red = busted car window

something like that

[mr. met]

how far back in time are we going?

[Matt Foley]

[ElenaRS]

this map is incredibly helpful. thank you so much for creating it! and to everyone for posting their incidents.
hopefully there will be less and less as 2008 continues...

[raw]

[doctorj]

[adenyce]

Could this thread be added to the Crown Heights Forum--or at least the link to the map? It might be useful, particularly to those who live/travel in the west end of the nabe.

[pitu]

So, anybody clever with Google Maps?
It would be nice to see the list that accompanies this map sorted by date, and perhaps the pins color-coded by incident type...

[Old Time Brooklyn]

Can we add public pissing to the map? I was walking on Carlton Avenue between Prospect and Park today and some young kid was walking toward me with his fly down. I passed him and noticed a bunch of urine on the ground. He yelled back to me "You like my piss trail?"

Punk.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was part of the muggin' posse.

[ParadeRest]

Isn't there a way to color code the pins? You have more than just "muggings" on the map so maybe if robberies were blue, homicide was red, shots fired could be yellow...

Disregard, Pitu already made the same suggestion.

[Old Time Brooklyn]

I think "yellow" should be for what I just described.

Ba-dum-bump.

[arches]

To change the pin colors:

-Go to google mugging map, select edit mode (you need to be logged in)
-Click on any existing pin
-When edit box appears, you'll see the pin icon in a box at upper right
-Click the icon, and you'll see a whole range of color choices

There are also other icons we could add, aside from just changing the colors.

I changed the Underhill/St John's summer shooting to red, as an example...but I guess we should reach a consensus on the color scheme first...as if anyone here can agree about anything

Edit: Just noticed you can also use custom icons, which might be a good idea. I find the default pins/icons to be too large, given that we are looking at a pretty small area of the map. Any aspiring graphic artist/semiotic/cartographer types care to come up with the first official Prospect Height crime icon series? What an honor!

[pitu]

I see there's pins with and without black dots -- the dots could be assault/violence, and no dot for plain mugging, no assault
If anyone is feeling industrious enough to change all those.

I think red for murder/shooting was a good suggestion...
gak, that's horrible.

[arches]

Someone chose a color scheme and updated the map, but didn't describe their choices. I interpret it as:

red = gun crimes/shootings
blue = mugging/assault
purple = store robbery/break-in
green = quality of life incident/general thugishness (ie bottle throwing)

I posted that in the map description as well. Seems to work...we can always add more colors later.

Pitu- i thought abt the dot/no-dot idea too. The dot is sort of like a bullet hole, so I was thinking crimes committed with weapons get the dot. Might be too subtle a distinction though.

[liftandcut]

Excellent map!

[doctorj]

What color should we use for quality-of-life architectural crimes? The blocks to avoid for their eyesores.
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[liftandcut]

How about black, if it's an option? Or, eyesore human doo-doo brown.

[poppy13]

Thanks for adding the 77 police station. I didn't know it was so far away. Can you please add other police stations?

[arches]

Added some additional precinct locations in surrounding areas. The 76th is actually much closer to Prospect Heights than the 77th is.

Are there any police "stations" other than the main precinct locations? Would officers from the 76th respond to crimes in progress in Prospect Heights? Just curious.

[pitu]

[arches]

ok, i've officially become obsessed with the mugging map concept...this seems to be the gold standard for crime maps:
http://chicagocrime.org/map/

Unfortunately, NYPD doesn't disclose crime information electronically the way Chicago does, so even if we could figure out how to do this (or wait for the site developer to release an google maps API...which they said will happen), we'd still have to manually enter all the crimes.