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bkhoosierfan

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Post Sun May 18, 08 8:32 am EST     Reply with quote

am i crazy or does it look like they are prepping the middle of Vandy between Atlantic and about Prospect for a median strip?

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Post Sun May 18, 08 8:53 am EST     Reply with quote

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41758
and, earlier: http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=28423

I'm very excited about this!
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Post Sun May 18, 08 10:53 pm EST     Reply with quote

Im also extremely excited about these...Yay!!!!

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Post Mon May 19, 08 7:59 am EST     Reply with quote

Very Nice indeed!
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Post Mon May 19, 08 4:05 pm EST     Reply with quote

this is a good thing.

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Post Mon May 19, 08 10:21 pm EST     Reply with quote

Why is this a good thing? I'm just curious.

I've always ridden down the ave. (bikes, skateboards) late at night and there's nothing more fun than slaloming across that big fat wide road.

adding a median for pedestrians? you really need a 'break' from one side to the other?

if it's very well kept with nice plants, well, that might be nice. But I forsee a dead strip with stray coke cans.

will miss those late night runs.

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Post Mon May 19, 08 10:24 pm EST     Reply with quote

Oh..

"* landscaped pedestrian crossings at Park Place, Bergen Street and Dean Street, and a raised and landscaped median between Prospect Place and St. Marks Avenue."

So it will be landscaped.. and it's billed as helping out bikers. Ok.. I'm down to check it out.. just not sure how taking away space on the road will make it easier for a biker.. shouldn't they just made better bike lanes?

Unless it's being done euro style with a separate bike line with its own median. THAT would be cool.

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Post Mon May 19, 08 11:00 pm EST     Reply with quote

bicicleta wrote:


Unless it's being done euro style with a separate bike line with its own median. THAT would be cool.


agreed.

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Post Tue May 20, 08 12:57 pm EST     Reply with quote

vanilla wrote:
bicicleta wrote:


Unless it's being done euro style with a separate bike line with its own median. THAT would be cool.


agreed.


That would be very nice!

But I have to say that I do think that this is a good idea. The light to cross Vanderbilt is a short one and I see lots of kids going to school and moms with little ones trying to rush across that street so at least if you get stuck in the middle your can wait for the light instead of playing human frogger Smile

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Post Tue May 20, 08 2:47 pm EST     Reply with quote

So is anyone old school enough to know whether there used to be a trolley line on Vanderbilt? I'm assuming the answer is yes, because the street excavation in preparation for the new landscaping revealed these old tracks:

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Post Tue May 20, 08 3:01 pm EST     Reply with quote

Pretty cool. I'm not nearly old enough to remember trolleys anywhere in NYC (i do remember double decker public buses and checker cabs though)...however this pic of Vanderbilt looking North from Grand Army seems to support the notion:

http://www.brooklynpix.com/photoframex1.php?p.....jpg&key=PHEIGHTS%2037


edit: This one is better. Early 1950's Vanderbilt at Park, looking North....pretty much right where your modern day pic was taken.

http://www.brooklynpix.com/photoframex1.php?p.....jpg&key=PHEIGHTS%2036

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Post Tue May 20, 08 3:18 pm EST     Reply with quote

Nice pics! I think the first one is almost exactly where I took my pic!
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Post Tue May 20, 08 5:39 pm EST     Reply with quote

Yep, those are definitely trolley tracks!

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Post Thu May 22, 08 8:43 pm EST     Reply with quote

Here's the first of the Vandy medians -

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Post Thu May 22, 08 10:15 pm EST     Reply with quote

Anyone else spot that 1950s scourge of Prospect Heights in the lower left hand corner of this photo:

http://www.brooklynpix.com/photoframex1.php?p.....jpg&key=PHEIGHTS%2036

!@#$% strollers!

I mean look at that guy, thinking he owns the sidewalk!

There goes the neighborhood!
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Post Thu May 22, 08 10:52 pm EST     Reply with quote

WhyFi...

Heh, I think I may have seen you (or someone else) snapping this exact shot at around 6:50p.

Dark blazer, jeans, black shoes?

Or was that someone else...

Too funny. Thanks for documenting and posting here.

These additions to Vanderbilt are fantastic, for both pedestrians and drivers alike.

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Post Fri May 23, 08 7:06 am EST     Reply with quote

jeffrey wrote:
WhyFi...

Heh, I think I may have seen you (or someone else) snapping this exact shot at around 6:50p.

Dark blazer, jeans, black shoes?

Or was that someone else...

Too funny. Thanks for documenting and posting here.

These additions to Vanderbilt are fantastic, for both pedestrians and drivers alike.

Devilishly handsome? Wink

Yeah, that was me - I made a new strap for my camera, so it's been getting a workout.

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Post Fri May 23, 08 12:58 pm EST     Reply with quote

Hah, nice to almost meet you.

I was in a car waiting at the light and made the comment to my kids that I bet someone's gonna post that photo to Brooklynian, and I wonder who it is.

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Devilishly handsome? Wink


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Post Fri May 23, 08 1:07 pm EST     Reply with quote

At least you didn't describe me as a hipster guy... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

I remember takin' a look at the cars, 'cause someone honked, and I thought that it might have been directed at me...

(You're so vain, you probably think this honk is about you...)

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Post Fri May 23, 08 1:17 pm EST     Reply with quote

sterling2000 wrote:
Anyone else spot that 1950s scourge of Prospect Heights in the lower left hand corner of this photo:

http://www.brooklynpix.com/photoframex1.php?p.....jpg&key=PHEIGHTS%2036

!@#$% strollers!

I mean look at that guy, thinking he owns the sidewalk!

There goes the neighborhood!

That is awesome!
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Post Fri May 23, 08 4:12 pm EST     Reply with quote

Okay, chalk up the 2nd-in-24h close encounter of the Brooklynian kind for me at the corner of Park and Vanderbilt.

Whatchuwant surprised me semi-incognito just now rockin' some seriously vamp, dark lipstick (rrrrowrrr! Twisted Evil ).

Good stuff.
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Post Fri May 23, 08 4:43 pm EST     Reply with quote

Dude... at least bodega hangers-on have, uh, bodegas on their corner haunt - what's your story? Dry cleaner hanger-on?
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Post Fri May 23, 08 4:49 pm EST     Reply with quote

jeffrey wrote:
Okay, chalk up the 2nd-in-24h close encounter of the Brooklynian kind for me at the corner of Park and Vanderbilt.

Whatchuwant surprised me semi-incognito just now rockin' some seriously vamp, dark lipstick (rrrrowrrr! Twisted Evil ).

Good stuff.

Wink

For the record- there was not a drop of lint to be found on Jeffrey. Clean as a whistle and very spiffy in his button down.
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Post Fri May 23, 08 5:02 pm EST     Reply with quote

Hah, WhyFi, close...

Suffice it to say that there is a place nearby that commands a fair amount of my attention, outside of my own work.
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Post Fri May 23, 08 5:06 pm EST     Reply with quote

And Whatchuwant, you should have seen WhyFi yesterday.

Methinks I need to step up my game.

Laughing
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Post Fri May 23, 08 5:34 pm EST     Reply with quote

The one time I met Wi-fi, he was actually rockin' the look, tis true.
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Post Sun May 25, 08 12:35 am EST     Reply with quote



they made more progress today but the tracks def slow them down

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Post Mon Jun 02, 08 2:50 pm EST     Reply with quote

There used to be trolleys and elevated trains all over Brooklyn. The Brooklyn Dodgers were named so because Brooklyn pedestrians were constantly dodging the trolleys. Are we still dodging?

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Post Tue Jun 03, 08 12:32 pm EST     Reply with quote


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Post Tue Jun 03, 08 2:06 pm EST     Reply with quote

the divider looks nice, but i wish they would of built a separate bike path instead, like a road between park cars and side walk.
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Post Tue Jun 03, 08 2:13 pm EST     Reply with quote

armchair_warrior wrote:
the divider looks nice, but i wish they would of built a separate bike path instead, like a road between park cars and side walk.

Ala 9th Ave (in Manhattan?)

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Post Tue Jun 03, 08 2:28 pm EST     Reply with quote

yes thats what i'm talking about.

i haven't rode a bike in the streets for years, cause i nearly got run over by a car when i was a kid. i only ride in parks.
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Post Tue Jun 03, 08 5:11 pm EST     Reply with quote

I'm I the only person that is annoyed at the city's poor planning? Why in the world did they complete repave the street and paint all new lines (double yellow, crosswalks, etc) only to rip it up again? I guess the pavement planners don't ever talk to the planter box planner. Wouldn't it have made more sense to install the dividers before repaving the street?

BTW...How long until some jackass puts his car up on top of those black and white "things"?

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Post Wed Jun 04, 08 10:25 am EST     Reply with quote

My assumption is (which may be wrong)... harder to pave with "white things" in the middle of the road then to just pave the whole thing. Let's give the construction guys a little slack, they may actually know what they are doing.

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Post Thu Jun 05, 08 10:32 am EST     Reply with quote

Okay but why bother with putting down the pavement markings?

Either way they have to pave around the "white things". If you look at the photos you'll see that the area around them has to now be patched. Seems like a waste.

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Post Thu Jun 05, 08 10:59 am EST     Reply with quote

the city loves to waste money, for example there is a very good patch of road on bedford ave in midwood, but every few years they tear it up and remake the roads all the roads there. its like clock work there.

while other areas with crappy roads never get it redone.
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Post Thu Jun 05, 08 11:09 am EST     Reply with quote

ParadeRest wrote:
Okay but why bother with putting down the pavement markings?

Either way they have to pave around the "white things". If you look at the photos you'll see that the area around them has to now be patched. Seems like a waste.


But didn't they just cut out what they had painted in (kind of like a guideline)? I was under the assumption that they put the lines down first as a way to see how the traffic would work before they dug it up and put in the medians.

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Post Thu Jun 05, 08 12:55 pm EST     Reply with quote

maybe it'll make the Evelyn Limo guys drive a bit slower.

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Post Thu Jun 05, 08 1:29 pm EST     Reply with quote

Here's the problem with bike lanes:



Notice the double parked car on the left in the bike lane.



Notice no bicyclists in the bike lane.

Protected bike lanes are great if they actually go somewhere.

Painted bike lanes are a waste of taxpayer dollars as they just become double-parking lanes.

But you can dream that enforcement of bike lanes will be stepped up which is highly doubtful.
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