Please be advised of the following:
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West Nile Virus activity detected recently in the following Brooklyn zip codes: 11214 and 11215
Now is the time for New Yorkers - especially people over 50 - to take personal precautions to prevent mosquito bites:
. Use repellents that contain DEET, Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus, or Picaridin and ALWAYS follow label instructions.
. If outside from dusk to dawn, wear protective clothing if possible, such as loose-fitting pants, long-sleeved shirts, and socks.
. Make sure that your doors and windows have tight-fitting screens. Fix or replace screens that have tears or holes.
Reduce mosquito exposure around your home:
. Eliminate any standing water that collects on your property.
. Remind or help neighbors to eliminate standing water on their properties.
. Call 311 to report dead birds and standing water.
For more information about West Nile virus, call 311, or go to www.nyc.gov/health.
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Best, Craig
Craig R. Hammerman
District Manager
Brooklyn Community Board 6
250 Baltic Street
Brooklyn, NY 11201-6401
Serving the neighborhoods of Carroll Gardens/South Brooklyn, Cobble Hill, Columbia Street District, Gowanus, Park Slope and Red Hook
BrookFetish Gentrified Chicken Customer
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Tue Aug 08, 06 4:24 pm EST
Great.
Can't we get something cool - like Monkey Pox? _________________ ===
Doing just fine, thank you.
trixieNYC Regular
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 196
Tue Aug 08, 06 4:24 pm EST
I love how it starts off with "Greetings" all nice and cheery, then then drop the bomb....
Do you think this is the similar to that Con Ed email scam from last week or do you normally get DoH emails?
stacey Beyond Karma
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 3138 Location: Underhill Ave.
Tue Aug 08, 06 4:30 pm EST
trixieNYC wrote:
I love how it starts off with "Greetings" all nice and cheery, then then drop the bomb....
Do you think this is the similar to that Con Ed email scam from last week or do you normally get DoH emails?
No this comes from the District Manager of CB 6 and forwarded to the northslope yahoo group. Definately not a scam
But I do know a Nigerian national who is looking to deposit a couple million in your account
trixieNYC Regular
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 196
Tue Aug 08, 06 4:40 pm EST
Thanks Stacey, good to know, I'll break out the pesticides tonight and crop dust my backyard....seriously.
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Tue Aug 08, 06 5:05 pm EST
pesticides is wrost than west nile. west nile is just another scare type of hype. god i wish they stop the stupid spreying.
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13712 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Tue Aug 08, 06 5:31 pm EST
armchair_warrior wrote:
pesticides is wrost than west nile. west nile is just another scare type of hype. god i wish they stop the stupid spreying.
The West Nile scare hype is overblown, but you're wrong about the pesticides. The main danger is to the people doing the spraying.
stacey Beyond Karma
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 3138 Location: Underhill Ave.
Tue Aug 08, 06 5:41 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
The West Nile scare hype is overblown
Why do you feel that way? Is this something that is "not true" or "just made to sound worse than it is"?
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13712 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Tue Aug 08, 06 5:51 pm EST
stacey wrote:
Carnivore wrote:
The West Nile scare hype is overblown
Why do you feel that way? Is this something that is "not true" or "just made to sound worse than it is"?
Just made to sound worse than it is. Don't get me wrong- it's important to know where cases develop and when. It's just not much of a threat to most healthy people. West Nile can be a serious or even fatal illness in the very young, the very old, people with HIV and others with impaired immune systems. Most people who contract it get a flu-like syndrome, feel lousy and get over it. It's an important public health issue, but the media has raised the level of hysteria to the point where young healthy people without any symptoms come the the ER demanding to be tested for West Nile (which requires a spinal tap) because they have a mosquito bite.
Livetotravel Rent Stabilized
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Tue Aug 08, 06 6:02 pm EST
Good link, LivetoTravel! The FAQs cited from the DOH after the first article give good basic information (basically what I said above).
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armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Tue Aug 08, 06 7:04 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
armchair_warrior wrote:
pesticides is wrost than west nile. west nile is just another scare type of hype. god i wish they stop the stupid spreying.
The West Nile scare hype is overblown, but you're wrong about the pesticides. The main danger is to the people doing the spraying.
my bad . but still over blown hehe. i wish it would go away already been doing this for how many years like 5 or 6 years since?
Medusa "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 401 Location: Prospect Place between Flatbush & Carlton
Tue Aug 08, 06 7:34 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
stacey wrote:
Carnivore wrote:
The West Nile scare hype is overblown
Why do you feel that way? Is this something that is "not true" or "just made to sound worse than it is"?
Just made to sound worse than it is. Don't get me wrong- it's important to know where cases develop and when. It's just not much of a threat to most healthy people. West Nile can be a serious or even fatal illness in the very young, the very old, people with HIV and others with impaired immune systems. Most people who contract it get a flu-like syndrome, feel lousy and get over it. It's an important public health issue, but the media has raised the level of hysteria to the point where young healthy people without any symptoms come the the ER demanding to be tested for West Nile (which requires a spinal tap) because they have a mosquito bite.
People do tend to change their mind about that test when they hear about the spinal tap.
stacey Beyond Karma
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 3138 Location: Underhill Ave.
Tue Aug 08, 06 8:13 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
stacey wrote:
Carnivore wrote:
The West Nile scare hype is overblown
Why do you feel that way? Is this something that is "not true" or "just made to sound worse than it is"?
Just made to sound worse than it is. Don't get me wrong- it's important to know where cases develop and when. It's just not much of a threat to most healthy people. West Nile can be a serious or even fatal illness in the very young, the very old, people with HIV and others with impaired immune systems. Most people who contract it get a flu-like syndrome, feel lousy and get over it. It's an important public health issue, but the media has raised the level of hysteria to the point where young healthy people without any symptoms come the the ER demanding to be tested for West Nile (which requires a spinal tap) because they have a mosquito bite.
Thanks C.
So you mean that the a healthy body can actually fight off the virus? And when you say very young you mean infants right not Brandon's age.
Sorry to pick your brain but you explain so well
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Tue Aug 08, 06 8:15 pm EST
stacey wrote:
Carnivore wrote:
stacey wrote:
Carnivore wrote:
The West Nile scare hype is overblown
Why do you feel that way? Is this something that is "not true" or "just made to sound worse than it is"?
Just made to sound worse than it is. Don't get me wrong- it's important to know where cases develop and when. It's just not much of a threat to most healthy people. West Nile can be a serious or even fatal illness in the very young, the very old, people with HIV and others with impaired immune systems. Most people who contract it get a flu-like syndrome, feel lousy and get over it. It's an important public health issue, but the media has raised the level of hysteria to the point where young healthy people without any symptoms come the the ER demanding to be tested for West Nile (which requires a spinal tap) because they have a mosquito bite.
Thanks C.
So you mean that the a healthy body can actually fight off the virus? And when you say very young you mean infants right not Brandon's age.
Sorry to pick your brain but you explain so well
he is the resident md or something . hey carnivore you got your md yet or just doing the residency?
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13712 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Tue Aug 08, 06 9:00 pm EST
stacey wrote:
So you mean that the a healthy body can actually fight off the virus?
Exactly. There's probably more West Nile than the the official stats even reflect because a young healthy person might get over it and never come to the hospital. Unfortunately, for the sicker people who do come to the hospital, there's no specific treatment for West Nile.
stacey wrote:
And when you say very young you mean infants right not Brandon's age.
Right again.
Drano Meow Wars Veteran
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1579
Tue Aug 08, 06 9:38 pm EST
Damn. This board is hopping. I was out of town for a few days and I'm not current yet.
I'll offer a few random observations on what I have seen:
1) West Nile can't possibly make me feel worse than that salmonella a few years back. I haven't had a turkeyburger since.
2) I, um, read up on the entire Ms. Scribe saga. Really funny stuff, and probably the reason I haven't caught up here.
3) The CNN article on Brooklyn was cool.
4) I lost my wedding ring in Chicago. So if I suddenly stop posting, my wife has probably killed me in my sleep. I reckon this cool act is just that.
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
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Tue Aug 08, 06 9:40 pm EST
Drano wrote:
4) I lost my wedding ring in Chicago. So if I suddenly stop posting, my wife has probably killed me in my sleep. I reckon this cool act is just that.
I'll avenge you. i'll accept payment in the form of your board acount .
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
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Tue Aug 08, 06 9:49 pm EST
Drano wrote:
1) West Nile can't possibly make me feel worse than that salmonella a few years back. I haven't had a turkeyburger since.
Uhg. Sorry to hear that. Salmonella sucks. Get that turkey burger well done next time! The dryness can be countered with mayonaise!
Drano wrote:
2) I, um, read up on the entire Ms. Scribe saga. Really funny stuff, and probably the reason I haven't caught up here.
What is this and how did I miss it?
Drano wrote:
4) I lost my wedding ring in Chicago. So if I suddenly stop posting, my wife has probably killed me in my sleep. I reckon this cool act is just that.
You'd better take her out somewhere nice!
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Aug 08, 06 11:31 pm EST
oh feck. how much duct tape are we gonna need for this?
the media along with the medical community feed the hysteria
people wish to have a sense of control
even when we don't
or when the solution is to eat healthy and exercise
i'd wish they'd stop spraying that crap on the streets
couldn't we release an infestation of bats to eat all the squeeters?
and then of course we'd need monkeys in the trees
right above the double parked mcclaren's
on 7th avenue
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
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Tue Aug 08, 06 11:33 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
couldn't we release an infestation of bats to eat all the squeeters?
Bats are a major rabies vector, and rabies is much more deadly than West Nile!
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
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Tue Aug 08, 06 11:35 pm EST
i'm going to start a save the mosquito group. or people for the ethical treatment of mosquito.
dont you guys know that the mosquito is a vital part of our environment. they are in the web of life. they are part of the food chain man!!!
stop the spraying now!!! stop the murder!
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Tue Aug 08, 06 11:46 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
quijibo wrote:
couldn't we release an infestation of bats to eat all the squeeters?
Bats are a major rabies vector, and rabies is much more deadly than West Nile!
park slope bats don't give you rabies
park slope bats just fly around like lubricated spazzes
and fly all akimbo while eating mosquitoes
how many people in brooklyn are bitten by bats?
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
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Tue Aug 08, 06 11:49 pm EST
armchair_warrior wrote:
stop the spraying now!!! stop the murder!
that would make an excellent t-shirt
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Tue Aug 08, 06 11:55 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
armchair_warrior wrote:
stop the spraying now!!! stop the murder!
that would make an excellent t-shirt
feel free to make it bro, and dont forget to donate to the save the Mosquito group. so we can fight man's unjust war against Mosquito kind.
BrookFetish Gentrified Chicken Customer
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West Nile is the new Communism. _________________ ===
Doing just fine, thank you.
Jamzer Lifer
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Wed Aug 09, 06 5:52 pm EST
I love when they spray to kill mosquitoes! I hate those little buggers. I've lost like three pints of blood to them this summer.
Many more people are killed each year from TVs falling on them than are killed by West Nile Virus. TV and the News/Post like to talk about it because it has a scary name and gets dumb people all fired up. It is also easier to talk about West Nile than it is to talk about real problems like George Friggen Bush eroding the power of Congress and taking away our civil liberties.
cat Insider
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Wed Aug 09, 06 6:40 pm EST
you people are really on target!
The West Nile virus affects like 1 person in a million. The Boston Globe did a chart of how much greater your chances are of getting hit by lightening or getting food poisoning.
The pesticides weaken the immune system of the people who *might* get west nile virus - and the rest of us - and thus make them more susceptible. it does not mean we should be sprayed by pesticides which cause cancer, respiratory problems, and more.
also, the pesticides kill natural predators of mosquitoes like dragonflies.
one year, i was handing out fliers in prospect park after the spraying and a woman told me she went through the park right after they sprayed and she saw all these ladybugs on the ground dying. it affects the whole ecosystem.
it is part of a continual scare tactic.
guiliani was the 'perfect' person to put this in place.
CHE Regular
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Sterling
Wed Aug 09, 06 8:46 pm EST
quijibo wrote:
how many people in brooklyn are bitten by bats?
I was bitten by a bat!
(But, it was my fault. I got sloppy when handling it. Rabies shots are a drag, though rabies itself is much, much worse. You want to get freaked, read about how it kills you.)
Anyway, yes, more bats! More swallows! More swifts! More flycathchers! More martins!
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Thu Aug 10, 06 9:58 am EST
CHE wrote:
quijibo wrote:
how many people in brooklyn are bitten by bats?
I was bitten by a bat!
(But, it was my fault. I got sloppy when handling it. Rabies shots are a drag, though rabies itself is much, much worse. You want to get freaked, read about how it kills you.)
Anyway, yes, more bats! More swallows! More swifts! More flycathchers! More martins!
what were you doing handling a bat?
you were asking for it man........
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13712 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Thu Aug 10, 06 11:41 am EST
quijibo wrote:
what were you doing handling a bat?
you were asking for it man........
I hope "handling" isn't some kind of euphemism!
CHE Regular
Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Sterling
Thu Aug 10, 06 1:03 pm EST
Ha, no--carrying it out of a building all wrapped up, but not wrapped up well enough.
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
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Thu Aug 10, 06 1:09 pm EST
cat wrote:
you people are really on target!
The West Nile virus affects like 1 person in a million. The Boston Globe did a chart of how much greater your chances are of getting hit by lightening or getting food poisoning.
The pesticides weaken the immune system of the people who *might* get west nile virus - and the rest of us - and thus make them more susceptible. it does not mean we should be sprayed by pesticides which cause cancer, respiratory problems, and more.
also, the pesticides kill natural predators of mosquitoes like dragonflies.
one year, i was handing out fliers in prospect park after the spraying and a woman told me she went through the park right after they sprayed and she saw all these ladybugs on the ground dying. it affects the whole ecosystem.
it is part of a continual scare tactic.
guiliani was the 'perfect' person to put this in place.
I agree with you about the environmental aspects of spraying, although I don't think anyone would miss the mosquitos themselves if they could be eliminated without harming other beneficial insects. However, your claim that pesticides "weaken the immune system" is unfounded. The DOH has moved away from the more toxic malathion that was initially used in the first season of spraying, and now uses pyrethroids, which are synthetic compounds derived from natural insecticides found in chrysanthamums. Although it is wise to avoid unecessary exposure to these compounds, most people don't have any symptoms from exposure to the kind of levels present after spraying. Some people do have severe allergies to these compounds, which is a real concern, and people with asthma can have exacerbations of their symptoms. Although there are some animal and human studies showing that some of the type II pyrethroids can have either stimulatory or inhibitory effects on some immune cell lines, there isn't any evidence of a clinically important effect in humans (meaning changes in immune function or chance of developing any kind of disease. One study on human volunteers exposed to the type of levels present after indoor professional spraying failed to show a statistical difference in almost any immunological marker soon after spraying (1-3 days), or any difference at all 6 months later.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi.....4&itool=pubmed_docsum
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Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
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FWIW (and I know this is off-topic), the most common animal vector of the rabies virus in the Mid-Atlantic states is the raccoon, not the bat. Rabies first showed up in New York in 1990 and by 1998 there had been 7851 animal cases identified (6637 in raccoons). Cases of bat rabies generate plenty of media exposure (who doesn't love a story about flying mammals?), but the truth of the matter is that infected bats rarely show the types of clinical signs we associate with rabies-infected animals. In truth, the most common clinical sign of infection in bats is paralysis, which negates the possibility of rabid bats flying around and randomly biting people. This isn't to say that a person won't get rabies from a bat, and that people bitten by bats shouldn't get treatment for rabies (rabies is fatal and incurable, after all), but I'd be much more worried about the raccoons in Prospect Park than the bats.
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
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Fri Aug 11, 06 5:00 pm EST
shishkab wrote:
FWIW (and I know this is off-topic), the most common animal vector of the rabies virus in the Mid-Atlantic states is the raccoon, not the bat. Rabies first showed up in New York in 1990 and by 1998 there had been 7851 animal cases identified (6637 in raccoons). Cases of bat rabies generate plenty of media exposure (who doesn't love a story about flying mammals?), but the truth of the matter is that infected bats rarely show the types of clinical signs we associate with rabies-infected animals. In truth, the most common clinical sign of infection in bats is paralysis, which negates the possibility of rabid bats flying around and randomly biting people. This isn't to say that a person won't get rabies from a bat, and that people bitten by bats shouldn't get treatment for rabies (rabies is fatal and incurable, after all), but I'd be much more worried about the raccoons in Prospect Park than the bats.
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. but still over blown hehe. i wish it would go away already been doing this for how many years like 5 or 6 years since?
