If someone says "pick up in central slope" what (or where) does that mean?
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Fri Nov 07, 08 9:13 pm EST
my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope.
tajmb Regular
Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 124
Fri Nov 07, 08 10:17 pm EST
Yeah. I have always tended to think of those as the boundaries too, except I don't argue with anyone about where south slope stops in the other direction. At this point it seems to have swallowed up greenwood heights entirely. I don't mind.
dixiecupdrinking Regular
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Fri Nov 07, 08 11:08 pm EST
I also make a finer distinction in my mind within North Slope, between what lies south of Union and the triangle north of it formed by Flatbush/Union/4th.
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vidro3 's Taxes subsidize your parking space
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Fri Nov 07, 08 11:40 pm EST
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
so what's 10th st and 7th ave? farther south-east slope?
flux Insider
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Sat Nov 08, 08 8:46 am EST
raw is wrong......vidro3 is correct
booklaw pompous asset
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Sat Nov 08, 08 12:02 pm EST
I agree with dixiecupdrinking: center slope begins at Union. Otherwise, vidro3 is right on.
prezst Regular
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Sat Nov 08, 08 12:28 pm EST
i'm with booklaw
Mpmav1 "Pick Up My Poo"
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Sat Nov 08, 08 1:56 pm EST
vidro3 wrote:
my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope.
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filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Sat Nov 08, 08 11:31 pm EST
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
That's so 1970's! _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Sat Nov 08, 08 11:32 pm EST
vidro3 wrote:
my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope.
So what do you call that one block between 16th Street and the Prospect Expressway? No Man's Land? _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Sat Nov 08, 08 11:33 pm EST
Flexichick wrote:
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
Eh. So what does that make 9-16th Streets?
In the 1970's it was probably Sunset Park. in the 80's it became South Slope. _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Sat Nov 08, 08 11:38 pm EST
snickers76 wrote:
Slope?
If someone says "pick up in central slope" what (or where) does that mean?
It means whatever the Real Estate Agent thinks that it means on any given day. There are no official boundaries except for the ones that they invent. The boundaries of South and West Slope continue to creep into the less desirable neighborhoods, past the edge of the park up into what is now known as "Greenwood Heights" and Gowanus. The Prospect Park boundary always stays the same, the North Boundary has gradually crept to Flatbush Avenue where it will probably stay since it meets another desirable neighborhood (Prospect Heights, once known as Crown Heights) that the real estate agency doesn't need to change.
Call it manifest destiny. Or, at least, the slow creep of Park Slope into Gowanus (plus Sunset Park). We're used to Manhattan-based and out-of-town media calling parts of Gowanus "Park Slope." We have expressed our ire more than once that Holiday Inn Express insists on calling its new Gowanus lodging the "Park Slope" Holiday Inn Express. But, now, the "Park Slope" label is being applied by a publication based close to home: The Park Slope Courier.
Aguayo says, though, that this haggling over neighborhood boundaries is nothing new. "First," she says, "people wouldn't go below Seventh Avenue. Then, they wouldn't go below Sixth. Then, Fifth. But there is plenty of new development going in now between Fourth and Fifth. People who paid a fortune to live on Eighth Avenue or the park, don't want to admit that anything other than Eighth and the Park is the Slope," she says, laughing.
And, for most people in the area, the most vivacious part of the neighborhood is the Fifth Avenue corridor. Linda TK, who with her husband tk owns Zelda Victoria, a decorating business long a fixture on Seventh Avenue, has moved to new quarters on Fifth. "The area is hipper, younger," she says. "There are all the new restaurants -- and the rent was going up on Seventh."
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wally Regular
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 84
Sun Nov 09, 08 8:06 pm EST
from Jackson and Manbeck's "The Neighborhoods of Brooklyn":
from 14th St on the west to Prospect Park W on the east
from Flatbush Ave on the north to 17th St on the south.
North Slope - from 4th Ave to PPW, Flatbush to 9th
South Slope - from 4th to PPW, 9th to 17th St.
I suppose center slope is strictly to decide whether you can get your kid into 321, eh?
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Sun Nov 09, 08 8:50 pm EST
Ah, so now the south slope CROSSES the highway. _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
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Sun Nov 09, 08 9:11 pm EST
All Park Slope will soon be designated as "South" Prospect Heights. _________________ food is my life
Hamilton Minister of Propaganda
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 1946
Sun Nov 09, 08 9:35 pm EST
I spoke with some realtors who said they were going to have Spanish Harlem reclassified as the North Slope and Philadelphia the South Slope.
dixiecupdrinking Regular
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Sun Nov 09, 08 11:08 pm EST
If the city would be so kind as to add a simple "E" in front of my street address, I could say I lived in the East Village. Would that be so hard?
Obamanut "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 497
Mon Nov 10, 08 12:05 am EST
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
lmao, I hope this is a joke.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1133 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Mon Nov 10, 08 9:58 am EST
Obamanut wrote:
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
lmao, I hope this is a joke.
Regardless of whether it was intended, it's a joke. First off, I've NEVER heard anyone refer to an east or west Slope. Plus, leaving out the blocks btw 4th and 5th aves is lunacy.
On the South Slope side, since there are no official boundaries, you have to go by the experiential aspect of the neighborhood. The area between 9th St and the expressway most definitely FEELS like the Slope... the 7th Ave commercial strip extends all the way to Prospect Ave, the blocks look like Park Slope, the freeway is a natural dividing line.
The blurrier boundary is the one btween South Slope and Windsor Terrace. In my book, the boundary falls midway between 8th Ave and Prospect Park West, south of 15th St.
armchair_warrior retsop cixelsyd
Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 5857 Location: boondocks
Mon Nov 10, 08 11:12 am EST
neighborhoods are never static, they are always dynamic.
when i was living in sunset park, on 8 ave around 58 st i think. they only had 1 asian store.
now its own neighborhood streching from 30 something street to 60 something street from 7 ave to 9 ave.
when i was living in down town near fort green it was part of the ghetto, ghetto shrink.
point is its how you make it out to be. borders are cultural not defined by physical line someone draws on the map.
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Retag Regular
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Mon Nov 10, 08 11:26 am EST
filmlover44 wrote:
So what do you call that one block between 16th Street and the Prospect Expressway? No Man's Land?
And since the parkway curves as it goes east, there are more streets in your no man's land as you go east. 18th St is north of the expressway between 7th ave and PPW (and further east, but that would be technically Windsor Terrace).
Zebra Local
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Mon Nov 10, 08 12:04 pm EST
I think it is somewhat of a myth that Park Slope was traditionally restricted to the higher avenues and didn't go past 9th St. until real estate people made it bigger in the '80s. Look into the New York Times or Brooklyn Eagle archives and you'll find that locations like 4th Ave. & 15th St. were routinely described as "Park Slope" way back in the 1910s. Perhaps the Slope shrunk around the '50s and that started a brief anomalous period.
charlesbklyn Regular
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 102
Mon Nov 10, 08 12:44 pm EST
Park Slope originally (1970s) did not have any delineating names (north, south, east, west). It was either the good part of Park Slope, or everything else. The North/South distinction was started by Real Estate agents in the 1990s to further mystify the neighborhood and divide it by property values. Clearly, from the hard work of landlords, residents, and businesses from 1970-1990, all parts of Park Slope have changed and grown. The time has come to partition the neighborhood into its logical form.
South Slope = 9th Street to 17th Street (Prospect park expressway), 4th ave to prospect park west (on the border of Kensington)
Center Slope 3rd street to 9th street, 4th avenue to prospect park west
North Slope = 3rd street to Flatbush Avenue, 5th avenue up to Prospect Park West
West Slope = Really, this should be called the lower slope , 17th street to flatbush), 4th Avenue to 2th Avenue (Down to Gwanus Canal)
East Slope = (Not a place)
Case is now closed. I will repost a new string with this list in a few weeks to get the discussion on track. (No offense to all those who thought otherwise).
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filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Mon Nov 10, 08 1:01 pm EST
[quote="8thandPrez"][quote="Obamanut"]
raw wrote:
Regardless of whether it was intended, it's a joke.
Well, it was a post from "raw". I'd take it as a joke! _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
culprit Newbie
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Mon Nov 10, 08 9:07 pm EST
raw wrote:
South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
When I moved to 9th St 10 yrs ago I was told that 'in the old days you didn't go south of 9th St'. But I also know a 60-yr-old woman who was born & raised at 5th Ave & 17th St, and she says it's always been the South slope (but she IS a RE agent!)
turtle95 think about it first
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 272 Location: South Slope-formerly of Windsor Terrace
Tue Nov 11, 08 12:06 am EST
I was watching"Dog Day Afternoon" the other day and there was an awning on a storefront on PPW between Prospect Ave and 17th St that said "Park Slope" something-or-other. Now I'd probably consider that to be in Windsor Terrace, but someone (either the real business owner or some overly creative set person) thought that PPW & 17th Street qualified as Park Slope, so I'm not going to argue with them.
That movie was from '75, I believe, so even then I think there was a wide range of answers for the question "what is Park Slope?"
Obamanut "Anonymous Guest"
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Tue Nov 11, 08 8:17 pm EST
turtle95 wrote:
I was watching"Dog Day Afternoon" the other day and there was an awning on a storefront on PPW between Prospect Ave and 17th St that said "Park Slope" something-or-other. Now I'd probably consider that to be in Windsor Terrace, but someone (either the real business owner or some overly creative set person) thought that PPW & 17th Street qualified as Park Slope, so I'm not going to argue with them.
That movie was from '75, I believe, so even then I think there was a wide range of answers for the question "what is Park Slope?"
My grandmother was born and raised on 19st and 7th Ave almost 100yrs ago, and says as far as she knew, that had always been Park Slope to her and everyone else there.
Needless to say, I'm more inclined to listen to her than to someone who was born and raised in Connecticut and now works at Corcoran.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
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Wed Nov 12, 08 11:25 am EST
Obamanut wrote:
Needless to say, I'm more inclined to listen to her than to someone who was born and raised in Connecticut and now works at Corcoran.
Yeah, and you should ignore also all of those reporters who wrote articles about the borders of "Park Slope", then and now.
I used to live in Montclair and the North side of Montclair (and the post office/zipcode) that served that area was called "Montclair Heights" but "Montclair Heights" was actually the South side of Montclair, where there was a small "Mountain" or hill running along the edge of the township and therefore it was the highest point in town.
Wonder where "Park Slope " came from. Something about a Park, and a Slope I would guess. Hmmm. _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
NYkittyNY Regular
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 180 Location: Park Slope
Wed Nov 12, 08 12:19 pm EST
Here's the scoop from a Real Real Estate Professional:
North Slope = Flatbush Ave to Union
Center Slope = Union to 9th St.
South Slope = 9th St. to Prospect Ave.
All boundaries are from 4th Ave to PPW.
Carmen Mayor of Snark Slope
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Wed Nov 12, 08 1:35 pm EST
Hamilton wrote:
I spoke with some realtors who said they were going to have Spanish Harlem reclassified as the North Slope and Philadelphia the South Slope.
haahahah _________________ whoa hey whoa hey whoa
Obamanut "Anonymous Guest"
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Wed Nov 12, 08 9:49 pm EST
filmlover44 wrote:
Wonder where "Park Slope " came from. Something about a Park, and a Slope I would guess. Hmmm.
Whoa, I get it now--so essentially Park Slope can logically only consist of those blocks that are directly within the "Slope" sloping downwards from the "Park," because that's how it is in "Montclair Heights."
Of course, that would mean that the north side of Park Slope ends at Union St., but whatever.
What would us dopey natives do without people like you showing up to kindly school us on our neighborhood? Thank God for you all.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 1185 Location: No Man's/Woman's Land
Wed Nov 12, 08 10:52 pm EST
What would you dopey natives do without your ass-umptions about people like me? You would have nothing to post about, I'll tell ya. Who would you have around to feel superior to?
Of course, being a "native", you do know that Union Street WAS considered the border of Park Slope for a while...before it moved..
(Seriously beginning to doubt that you are a native) _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
Hamilton Minister of Propaganda
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 1946
Thu Nov 13, 08 3:18 pm EST
While waiting for the light to change on 9th st and 7th avenue ,I overheard a stroller mom advise her child, we have to be careful honey, we are entering the South Slope
booklaw pompous asset
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1041 Location: 7th Ave and 2nd Street
Thu Nov 13, 08 6:39 pm EST
That's priceless!
(Although I remember a time when living on the Park Slope blocks closest to Flatbush Avenue (such as Park Place) was considered too dangerous for families with young kids)
Hamilton Minister of Propaganda
Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 1946
Thu Nov 13, 08 8:12 pm EST
I remember when you didn't need a compass to walk through the slope.
filmlover44 Funk Soul Sister
Joined: 31 Dec 2006 Posts: 1185 Location: No Man's/Woman's Land
Thu Nov 13, 08 10:56 pm EST
Hamilton wrote:
While waiting for the light to change on 9th st and 7th avenue ,I overheard a stroller mom advise her child, we have to be careful honey, we are entering the South Slope
Ha ha.
I lived in the South Slope when it really was dangerous. I don't know why I'm laughing. _________________ Ok, now I'm crazy. Another goal achieved.
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