Joint that took over Romp's space...closed. That was fast. I guess no one told them brick and mortar media stores were a dying breed.
RockerGirl77 numba one in tha hood, g
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 335 Location: 5th St
Tue Dec 09, 08 10:01 pm EST
Oh I think I saw their stock for sale on CL the past few days. I hate seeing local businesses go under - but I don't even think chain video places will make it through the digital age.
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 12:10 am EST
how long was this place around?
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 12:12 am EST
RockerGirl77 wrote:
but I don't even think chain video places will make it through the digital age.
yeah hollywood video on 5th ave by 8th st closed about a year ago. and unlike blockbuster, hollywood had a really good selection of stuff other than new releases
Old Time Brooklyn Bruce Ratner's Love Child
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 642
Wed Dec 10, 08 9:47 am EST
It was only open, I don't know, 6 months at the most.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Wed Dec 10, 08 10:09 am EST
Not surprised, what does surprise me is that any video store can still be in business with netflix around
Mpmav1 "Pick Up My Poo"
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 549 Location: South Park Slope
Wed Dec 10, 08 2:16 pm EST
Redbox mixed with streaming is the future. I wish there was a Redbox close to me.... _________________ Did Someone Say Walk?
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 2:33 pm EST
LongTimeSloper wrote:
Not surprised, what does surprise me is that any video store can still be in business with netflix around
i still haven't joined netflix. i like local video stores and don't want to see them become completely extinct. lately i've been going to reel life on 8th ave between 11th & 12th, and sometimes video gallery on 7th ave between 8th & 9th.
booklaw pompous asset
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1041 Location: 7th Ave and 2nd Street
Wed Dec 10, 08 2:41 pm EST
didn't Video Gallery close years ago?
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Wed Dec 10, 08 2:45 pm EST
YankeeFan wrote:
i like local video stores and don't want to see them become completely extinct.
hey, i like horses and buggies, too, and gaslights, but...
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 4:17 pm EST
booklaw wrote:
didn't Video Gallery close years ago?
no, they just moved a block over. they were on 7th ave btwn 7th & 8th st from around 1985 to around 2000, now they been on 7th ave btwn 8th & 9th for a few years.
i'd say video gallery is probably the oldest video store in park slope. either them or royal video.
LongTimeSloper Hi there
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 2423
Wed Dec 10, 08 4:24 pm EST
Didn't Royal video close up? I remember going to them over 20 years ago when they were in that big corner store on Flatbush-which i positively know is gone now. did they move to a smaller store?
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 4:38 pm EST
yes, royal video moved about one block up hill. they're now on flatbush where it meets 7th ave, across the street from that chain dug store
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Wed Dec 10, 08 4:42 pm EST
booklaw wrote:
didn't Video Gallery close years ago?
were you thinking of screen memory? that place that was on 7th ave betwen carrol and garfield st? in the space where little thing's second branch is now? for some reason i always use to get the names mixed up with screen memory and video gallery. i don't know why. but screen memory was a good video store in the 80's. i think they closed down around 1995 or 1996? does that sound right?
booklaw pompous asset
Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1041 Location: 7th Ave and 2nd Street
Wed Dec 10, 08 7:06 pm EST
No, I was thinking of Video Gallery, which I used to use quite a lot. I didn't realize that they had reopened a block away.
By the time that happened, I had access to video on demand on cable and also to Netflix.
drummachines Regular
Joined: 01 May 2008 Posts: 52 Location: PS/PH Border
Fri Dec 12, 08 1:31 am EST
Wow that was fast. I rented from Video Free Brooklyn a couple of times, but their selection was quite limited and it was EXPENSIVE. Reel Life on 5th is the way to go....I have Netflix, but I dont like it as much.....
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
I haven't rented a physical copy of a movie in years, but I do have to say I'm not a big fan of owning only digital copies (renting digitally is another matter). If it's a movie I want to keep, I also likely want all the extras/commentaries that come on the disc. Plus, unless you're adamant about backing up your files (please, please back up your files), if your hard drive crashes, you're SOL for all your digital media.
Another pro about physical media (yeah, this is a tangent - I've had a couple of bourbons), digital copies still haven't caught up in quality. The average user can't tell, but the audio quality of a CD is much better than an MP3, no matter the bit-rate. One day it'll be equal, and even surpass, but for now give me a disc with a booklet any day.
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Fri Dec 12, 08 1:57 am EST
anthonycm wrote:
digital copies still haven't caught up in quality
really? cause i can netflix a bluray and rip it (to either the server, a disc or the hdr) in all its full, digital, uncompressed glory. throw in a raid, and youve got a digital copy forevar.
then again, i collect old vinyls, so i totally understand _________________ http://www.citynoise.org
anthonycm Dolemite's Inspiration
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 353
Fri Dec 12, 08 2:01 am EST
Sorry, I should have been more specific. Digital music you get from iTunes or amazon.com (slightly better quality than iTunes, and a little cheaper. No, I don't work for Amazon) aren't as good as what you would normally hear from a disc. Again, most people can't tell, and you certainly can't tell from your average pair of earbuds, but through a proper stereo, physical media for music is still better. Sorry, I know this is getting off topic.
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Fri Dec 12, 08 2:10 am EST
anthonycm wrote:
Digital music you get from iTunes or amazon.com aren't as good as what you would normally hear from a disc
or, you know, you can just filter your limewire/torrent results for 384 or higher... theres lots of full uncompressed mp3s/wavs out there... full digital rips. they sound great through big dj headphones and studio monitors, and vast reduntant storage is so cheap nowadays...
Ah, but then you're taking this into a totally new direction with the morality/legality of downloading music illegally (unless you're speaking of only those artists that don't mind/allow you to use torrents to download for free). I'm just talking legit means of getting the majority of music.
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Fri Dec 12, 08 2:46 am EST
anthonycm wrote:
Ah, but then you're taking this into a totally new direction with the morality/legality of downloading music illegally (unless you're speaking of only those artists that don't mind/allow you to use torrents to download for free). I'm just talking legit means of getting the majority of music.
really. youve never ever ever downloaded anything illegally? come on, man.
but lets get this straight: im not telling anyone to do shit. im just saying whats available out there. whatever means you choose to get it is your choice. thats beyond the scope of this thread.
anyway, most new-release vinyl comes with a DRM-free high-res mp3 download so you get the best of both worlds. i say download it; if you hate it, delete it and if you love it, go buy it. i dont mind downloading a few tunes from a band to see if i like them before shelling out $10 for a 12" single or ep. i also try on my jeans before i buy them, and i eat samples at the grocery. _________________ http://www.citynoise.org
anthonycm Dolemite's Inspiration
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 353
Fri Dec 12, 08 3:00 am EST
All for 'sampling.' I just worry about the next generation of downloaders that will grow up thinking it should all be free. If the artists, and their financial backers, are for that (thinking they'll make it all up in merchandising and concert revenue), then I applaud them for being forward thinking. But it shouldn't be assumed (and I'm not saying you do this), that it's harmless to download limitless amounts of music off the net for free.
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Fri Dec 12, 08 3:08 am EST
anthonycm wrote:
I just worry about the next generation of downloaders that will grow up thinking it should all be free... But it shouldn't be assumed that it's harmless to download limitless amounts of music off the net for free.
its telling that you didnt answer my question about ever downloading anything illegal...
what youre saying makes perfect sense... within the radio-consumer-friendly recording industry marketing paradigm thats been in place for almost 3/4ths of a century. you have to be careful not to swing to extremes. its ludicrous to say that "the next generation" will feel entitled. i downloaded my first mp3 13 years (about half my life) ago and since then, ive bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of music. go figure. and who, again, is all this downloading hurting? have you watched mtv cribs lately? i mean, seriously... youre parroting back to me exactly what the recording industry hopes people like you will parrot back to people like me. doesnt that make you feel used? or are you really this earnest guy thats nauseated by the idea of cheating industry executives out of their cut? i mean, it makes a good rhetorical argument, but i dont buy it.
the market is no longer ruled by brainwashing market-economics airplay. the murmurs you hear is the once fat-cat industry whining that they can no longer market shitty music any more because not only do consumers now have freedom of choice, they now have freedom of availability on demand at no cost to them. suddenly, the power shifts back to the consumer and their prerogative to listen to what they want to listen to (good music), not what the market foists on them (mostly shitty, generic contract-fulfilling pop).
no... break out of the mold, man. thats what the industry needs to do, at least. get the industry to hurry its ass up and go on and catch up with the rest of the light-speed digital world and were all good... it aint 1978 anymore where you pop down to the wiz and shell out 8$ for a cassette just cause you hear it 10 times a day on wabc...
think about it... theres a reason why they dont sell wax cylinder phonographs and 8-tracks any more, you know? times change. strategies change. we are at a crossroads in many ways, and those of us that are ready would really love it if the stragglers would hurry up so we can get our move on... _________________ http://www.citynoise.org
anthonycm Dolemite's Inspiration
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 353
Fri Dec 12, 08 3:26 am EST
Well, the downloading hurts mainstream artists. Whether you or I like the music they produce or not, there are large marketing teams behind them, for whom the music industry puts up large amounts of money to get out there. I'm not arguing the merits of the music itself. I'm just saying that some companies put a good deal of money behind the musicians to promote them. In my ideal situation, the music would be given for free (or a PayPal-ish donation) where the artists would make their money in touring.
However, some artists, even smaller ones, still partially depend on the revenues from the physical media being sold. i own an EP from Neko Case where in the liner notes she implores people not to post the tracks online, as that will cost her money. And artists like Neko aren't exactly showing up on MTV Cribs anytime soon.
rhodamine Crooklyn Dodger
Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 740 Location: Brooklyn, NY
Fri Dec 12, 08 3:41 am EST
anthonycm wrote:
Well, the downloading hurts mainstream artists.
again, i dont buy it. there are roughly 5,999,999,999+ other people in the world besides me. how is my specific downloading hurting anyone? you'll get bonus points for citing specific statistics or economic models... because right now, youre giving a popular-but-ineffective argument based strictly on personal opinion. seems like a pretty good sign that the current system isnt working, or people wouldnt be flooding in droves to download shit for free.
neko is richer than me, i bet you. people sharing her tracks arent "costing her money" theyre "diminshing her profit". theres a big difference, semantics aside. maybe if she (or more correctly, her management) invested a little scratch into new marketing techniques, you know, besides selling the same old indie cds, lps and mp3s, they might atually become solvent enough that they dont have to harangue their fans, the source of any of their income to begin with, from within their liner notes. i, for one, would find it amazingly lame to be chastized by an artist in the notes on an album i just paid for. if neko case is getting screwed, she might want to talk to her management, because werent most of her shows sold out all summer?
anthonycm wrote:
I'm not arguing the merits of the music itself. I'm just saying that some companies put a good deal of money behind the musicians to promote them.
its clear that this has largely become a semantic argument now, and its clear that we dont agree, so i must bid you goodnight as my insomnia is now fading into sleepiness _________________ http://www.citynoise.org
YankeeFan "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 416
Sat Dec 13, 08 4:40 pm EST
drummachines wrote:
Reel Life on 5th is the way to go.
actually reel life is on 8th ave by 11th st. the video store on 5th ave close to flatbush is called get reel. it is confusing.
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