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Post Sat Aug 26, 06 9:24 am EST     Reply with quote

A few nights ago I was walking my dog at somewhere between 10 and 11 at night. I headed down to Gowanus just for a change of pace - I usually walk the dog in Park Slope. As I was walking along St Johns between Third and Fourth Ave, a man in a truck slowed right down, leered and then asked me "how much?". When I looked at him with disgust and started to run away, he looked extremely embarrassed. WTF. I was wearing sweatpants and an old t-shirt at the time too...
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i've heard gowanus has hookers, i've never seen them personally
i've seen gangs of them off the brooklyn bridge tho'
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Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.

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Post Sat Aug 26, 06 9:37 am EST     Reply with quote

quijibo wrote:
i've heard gowanus has hookers, i've never seen them personally
i've seen gangs of them off the brooklyn bridge tho'


Gosh, I had no idea. Perhaps not the best place to walk my dog in future. I would have assumed that my being dressed in sweats as opposed to thigh-length wet-look boots and a mini skirt would suggest to curb crawlers that I'm not in that business. But I guess not.


But do prostitutes generally walk dogs while working???
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But do prostitutes generally walk dogs while working???

those prostitutes charge more
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Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.

aw man. Embarassed back in the good old days you mean
yuppie scum always ruin everything with their wasabi sushi and manchego ways...
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Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.

aw man. Embarassed back in the good old days you mean
yuppie scum always ruin everything with their wasabi sushi and manchego ways...


It was the yuppies who were some of the frequent customers. Well maybe not down by Nevins. When I was working car service you'd always see the Alligator shirts and glasses take a free-lance crack ho in the park or behind/underneath the tennis court behind the Montauk club.

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Precious Williams wrote:
quijibo wrote:
i've heard gowanus has hookers, i've never seen them personally
i've seen gangs of them off the brooklyn bridge tho'


Gosh, I had no idea. Perhaps not the best place to walk my dog in future. I would have assumed that my being dressed in sweats as opposed to thigh-length wet-look boots and a mini skirt would suggest to curb crawlers that I'm not in that business. But I guess not.


But do prostitutes generally walk dogs while working???


Only if they're kidnapping them for crack. The prostitutes that were down in the box area were lucky to afford a bag of Wise potato chips much less fancy vinyls.

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Post Sat Aug 26, 06 1:26 pm EST     Reply with quote

Maybe he wanted to buy your dog? How was IT dressed? Shocked

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Post Sat Aug 26, 06 1:29 pm EST     Reply with quote

maybe you look like a girl that worked there from far away.

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Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.

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street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy
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Maybe he wanted to buy your dog? How was IT dressed? Shocked


The dog was as naked as the day she was born. Maybe that is what enticed the curb crawler.
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Precious Williams wrote:
street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy


your dog is soooo naive!

(Actually, that's the part that made it suprising to me. It doesn't matter how *you're* dressed, but with a dog in tow? Bizarre.)

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Precious Williams wrote:
street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen plenty of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy


I'm sure a little more police presence there wouldn't hurt. Someone is turning a blind eye.

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pitu wrote:
Precious Williams wrote:
street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy


your dog is soooo naive!

(Actually, that's the part that made it suprising to me. It doesn't matter how *you're* dressed, but with a dog in tow? Bizarre.)


I agree. I find that part just bizarre. My dog is quite small though (a Min Pin) so maybe the dirty sod did not see her (and imagined I was perhaps carrying a whip rather than a dog leash)
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I spotted a good old-fashioned crack whore on 3rd and 14th a couple weeks ago. I can't even describe what she was wearing, it was so frightening. Just think shriveled, pre-maturely aged, petite woman wearing shorts and a tank top from the kids section of Salvation Army. Add in a generous amount of stumbling and you get the idea.

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I spotted a good old-fashioned crack whore on 3rd and 14th a couple weeks ago. I can't even describe what she was wearing, it was so frightening. Just think shriveled, pre-maturely aged, petite woman wearing shorts and a tank top from the kids section of Salvation Army. Add in a generous amount of stumbling and you get the idea.

How can you be sure she was a crack ho rather than just a homeless person with a booze problem?
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Precious Williams wrote:
meanderthal wrote:
Maybe he wanted to buy your dog? How was IT dressed? Shocked


The dog was as naked as the day she was born. Maybe that is what enticed the curb crawler.


Damned petophiles!

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Precious Williams wrote:
pitu wrote:
Precious Williams wrote:
street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy


your dog is soooo naive!

(Actually, that's the part that made it suprising to me. It doesn't matter how *you're* dressed, but with a dog in tow? Bizarre.)


I agree. I find that part just bizarre. My dog is quite small though (a Min Pin) so maybe the dirty sod did not see her (and imagined I was perhaps carrying a whip rather than a dog leash)



i just read on wikipedia that french ladies of the evening (honestly, that was the phrase. gotta love suddenly prudish open source encyclopedias) at one period carried french bulldogs (which seem a bit bulky, but nevermind) as an indication of their professional calling. so maybe he just thought you were a traditionalist....

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sweet tea wrote:
Precious Williams wrote:
pitu wrote:
Precious Williams wrote:
street shooter wrote:
Idlewild wrote:
Apparently your curb crawler jut woke up from a deep freeze. That box area, from Atlantic & Nevins to 4th Ave to Nevins & Carroll up to 3rd Ave was a notorious streetwalker back in the day before you gentrifiers brought up real estate values. Up until five years ago, maybe a little more.


I'm not sure how bad it was 5 yrs ago but I've seen pleny of hookers on Nevins St. from about Dean st. to Union St. in the very recent past. Like yesterday. They hang out by the factories. I usually shoot down Nevins on the way home late at night. Not a great place to walk the dog.


I had no idea there were streetwalkers in this part of Brooklyn. Call me and my dog naive... Very Happy

your dog is soooo naive!

(Actually, that's the part that made it suprising to me. It doesn't matter how *you're* dressed, but with a dog in tow? Bizarre.)


I agree. I find that part just bizarre. My dog is quite small though (a Min Pin) so maybe the dirty sod did not see her (and imagined I was perhaps carrying a whip rather than a dog leash)



i just read on wikipedia that french ladies of the evening (honestly, that was the phrase. gotta love suddenly prudish open source encyclopedias) at one period carried french bulldogs (which seem a bit bulky, but nevermind) as an indication of their professional calling. so maybe he just thought you were a traditionalist....

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quijibo wrote:
Precious Williams wrote:
But do prostitutes generally walk dogs while working???

those prostitutes charge more


Please tell me Richard Gere did not say the thing about the snake.

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Precious Williams wrote:
caaahyoko wrote:
I spotted a good old-fashioned crack whore on 3rd and 14th a couple weeks ago. I can't even describe what she was wearing, it was so frightening. Just think shriveled, pre-maturely aged, petite woman wearing shorts and a tank top from the kids section of Salvation Army. Add in a generous amount of stumbling and you get the idea.

How can you be sure she was a crack ho rather than just a homeless person with a booze problem?


Uh Duh. A crack ho is a crack ho and Caaahyoko sure knows a crack ho when Caaahyoko sees one. I remember the first time I saw one was on Spring Street and Mercer Street around 6 am. Most of us were on our way to work when the crack ho stumbled by in crumpled clothes picked from the kids' section of Salvation Army. Other commuters and I exchanged startled glances, silently thinking, "OH MY, THERE'S A CRACK HO!" Don't worry, you yourself will instantly recognize one once you cross its path.

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Please tell me Richard Gere did not say the thing about the snake.

for true man. no lie Shocked
it's a tibetan thing
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caaahyoko wrote:
I spotted a good old-fashioned crack whore on 3rd and 14th a couple weeks ago. I can't even describe what she was wearing, it was so frightening. Just think shriveled, pre-maturely aged, petite woman wearing shorts and a tank top from the kids section of Salvation Army. Add in a generous amount of stumbling and you get the idea.


That sounds like the same person who hangs out under the 9th-street subway overpass now and then. I haven't seen her this summer though, so I thought maybe she had moved somewhere with more foot traffic for her to proposition. I'd say it's definitely drugs and not booze, judging from her behaviour.

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quijibo wrote:
raw wrote:
Please tell me Richard Gere did not say the thing about the snake.

for true man. no lie Shocked
it's a tibetan thing


I still can't get past Gere's giraffe quote. Everytime I read a thread with quijibo, the word "giraffe" pops out and my mind goes blank. Here's another brilliant public speaker in action:
"I like the color red because it's a fire. And I see myself as always being on fire."
--California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

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I can't get past the geography of this:
"free-lance crack ho in the park or behind/underneath the tennis court behind the Montauk club"

You mean yuppies would pick up ho's down on Nevins and 3rd and bring them all the way up to Grand Army Plaza? Or were the ho's already up there?
Can't even picture a spot behind the Montauk club where people would have even quickie sex, but I'm probably not looking hard enough when I pass by. Ick, garbage and rats back there.

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Slope4-35Yrs wrote:
I can't get past the geography of this:
"free-lance crack ho in the park or behind/underneath the tennis court behind the Montauk club"

You mean yuppies would pick up ho's down on Nevins and 3rd and bring them all the way up to Grand Army Plaza? Or were the ho's already up there?
Can't even picture a spot behind the Montauk club where people would have even quickie sex, but I'm probably not looking hard enough when I pass by. Ick, garbage and rats back there.


They were up here. It during the Lincoln Hotel days. there was a crack hotel on Lincoln between 7th Ave and 6th Ave not so long ago next to the music school. When I was driving car service (night shift) you'd see one or two specific ones cruising 7th Ave by base between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m.. Usually, they'd pick up car service drivers taking a break at the New Purity by Union, or they'd catch a yellow heading back to Manhattan, or some yuppie (gentrfier in today's terms) walking the streets. If it was some guy walking he was usually married and you would see them hop the iron barrier of the Montauk tennis court and disappear, or they'd hop the stone wall in the Park.

In regard to your not seeing where they could go at the Montauk, not so long ago they had a raised tennis court where you see the vacant space. It covered 3/4s of the lot, the rest was plants if memory serves me right.

Witht the Lincoln Hotel, it was a pretty stereotypical by the hour hotel. When my parents had the bagel store on 7th Ave, the store, I believe, shared a wall or a common sewer pipe with them. One time the cellar of the store became flooded and the source was traced back to the Lincoln. The owner, who seemed very nice, let us in, nothing but red walls , some crushed velvet some G-d knows what else, all around. I believe tere was a chandelier or two and a black light poster of the "African babe with the big bosoms and her lion guardian" on the wall. This was back in the early '80's. Park Slope and Prospect Heights did have a prevelant prostitution problem back in the day.

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Thanks. Of course! Your description makes perfect sense and brought it all back. I remember the New Purity (and the old Purity), the house on Lincoln - with the big Cadillacs frequently parked outside - and the tennis courts beside the Montauk. I also remember the bagel store. I was not out between 1 and 4 a.m so would have missed the action you describe, however.

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raw wrote:
I still can't get past Gere's giraffe quote. Everytime I read a thread with quijibo, the word "giraffe" pops out and my mind goes blank. Here's another brilliant public speaker in action:
"I like the color red because it's a fire. And I see myself as always being on fire."
--California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

Razz that reminds me of another incredibly insightful Ahnuld quote
matt drudge plays it on his sunday night radio show

"Ve vant to make shure chauldren aren't left without any buuks.
Ve vant to make sure our chauldren have dah buuks"
Applause
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Two streetwalkers got into a turf fight the other night in front of my building on 3rd Av and 11th. They're pretty regular around here. There's always ones hiding against buildings watching out for cops or bugging late-night Dunkin' Donuts customers to buy them coolatas.


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where were the tennis courts at? In the empty lot?

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You should be careful walking around there by yourself at night! Gowanus is known (at least in my experience) to have prostitution and drugs. Hell I've been offered sex by probable crack addicts. I once found a big baggy of what I think was crack. Just because you were wearing sweat pants doesn't mean someone would think you weren't a prostitute. Prostitutes don't only wear stereotypical hooker garb like high heels and shorts skirts.

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