Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Sat Sep 09, 06 2:07 pm EST
Offleash hours are safe!!!!!
from the Brooklyn Papers:
Quote:
Under fire from leash-law sticklers, the city will enshrine in law a two-decade-old unofficial policy that has allowed Lassie, Rusty and Sparky to roam free in city parks.
The proposed rule change — which would formally allow dogs to remain off-leash between 9 pm and 9 am in most parks — is an end-run around opponents of the off-leash hours, who have sued the Parks Department on the grounds that the practice is illegal and endangers human safety.
I have it on good authority that what Q says is true.
Aaaahhhhhhoooooooooooooooowww!!
(translation: joyful howl for you non-dog folks)
_________________ Get your paws off my canned chicken
quijibo Crooklyn Ninja
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2028 Location: taintalicious!
Sun Sep 10, 06 8:56 am EST
the lawsuit backfired on the Juniper Park people
they forced the parks department to make a law out of a wink-nod
agreement begun by Henry Stern 20 years ago
now Juniper Park will have legally enforced offleash hours from 9pm - 9am
dohhhhh
Guest
Mon Sep 11, 06 10:04 pm EST
I have been surrounded by pet dogs all my life and this law scares the hell out of me. The first dog that bites me is getting its tail sued off.
Rose Ninja
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 911 Location: South Slope
Mon Sep 11, 06 10:25 pm EST
Anonymous wrote:
I have been surrounded by pet dogs all my life and this law scares the hell out of me. The first dog that bites me is getting its tail sued off.
Do you understand that nothing is changing? The proposed law will just ratify the status quo. Don't be scared.
Drano Meow Wars Veteran
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1559
Tue Sep 12, 06 8:39 am EST
quijibo wrote:
the lawsuit backfired on the Juniper Park people
they forced the parks department to make a law out of a wink-nod
agreement begun by Henry Stern 20 years ago
now Juniper Park will have legally enforced offleash hours from 9pm - 9am
dohhhhh
Depends on how determined they are. I don't see them walking away from this, particularly now that they have something quite specific to fight. Good luck.
Anonymous wrote:
I have been surrounded by pet dogs all my life and this law scares the hell out of me. The first dog that bites me is getting its tail sued off.
You gonna sue for Gravy Train and a slobber soaked tennis ball?
rockhound LEASH YOU DOGS!
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 129 Location: Lincoln & Underhill PH
Tue Sep 12, 06 9:54 am EST
Nothing has been decided yet on this issue. Dana Rubenstein was not telling the truth when she proclaimed off leash hours to be safe.
To see Bob Holden's response to Dana's article, go here:
I found Dana's article to be biased. Hullo, I don't know how "benign" it is to allow your dogs to menace your fellow park goers and leave poo all over the place. I have been cornered by two huge growling hair-bristled off leash mutts and the owner didn't give a rip. It was terrifying, just like being mugged -- but wouldn't have qualified as an "attack" because no blood was drawn (true of many muggings as well!). Off leash dogs can be frightening, and intimidating other park visitors is not a "benign activity".
Even FIDO, on their website, admits that "many" park workers are afraid of dogs (to say nothing of park visitors!), and asks their subscribers will you pretty-please keep your loose dogs away from them? FIDO just doesn't get it. Workers, and visitors, and everyone should feel safe from dogs in our parks. Fenced dog runs are the only rational solution.
N.B. Anthropomorphization is the tendency to see human characteristics in other animals. It is a scientific fallacy,and the main reason deluded owners regard dogs as their "children", and believe they need to "socialize" with other dogs. Like they say at Fark, get a brain, morans!
/not a dog hater
//just spent $1,250 at the vet to save my dog's life
homeowner "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 2068 Location: Between a rock and a hard place
Tue Sep 12, 06 11:05 am EST
There is another side to the off-leash story. I saw the sadest thing on Saturday. A guy was walking his dog in the parade grounds on Saturday morning. The dog was off-leash something spooked him and he took off running. The guy was chasing him screaming "No, stop, come back" but the dog kept running like his butt was on fire.
A couple of people tried to stop him or at least slow him down, but he managed to elude them. He ran out into Caton and managed to avoid traffic and took off up Argyle. The street was closed for paving or something and again a few of the workers tried to stop the dog with no sucess. It ended up running full steam out into traffic a the next big two-way (McDonald??) and got hit by a car. The owner was running down the middle of the street screaming.
Folks, keep your dogs on leashes unless they are in a dog run or other enclosed space. Its as much for the dog's safety as it is for everyone else's.
What is true is the fact that the Attorney representing the City Parks Dept. (not the Juniper Park att'y, not the Off-leash att'ys) told Judge Kelly
that however he ruled in the case, the City decided anyway to begin the process of amending the Leash Law to get it in synch with the unofficial offleash policy and the Health Department. According to the City Atty., both departments have already stated they are willing to change the current Leash Law to formally include offleash hours. Judge Kelly then said that his final ruling could become moot with regard to this whole lawsuit if the City is successful in amending the current Leash Law.
FWIW, I don't think the judge will come back with his ruling for at least a month so until then we're all just gonna have to wait.... _________________ Get your paws off my canned chicken
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Tue Sep 12, 06 9:11 pm EST
homeowner wrote:
The dog was off-leash something spooked him and he took off running. The guy was chasing him screaming "No, stop, come back" but the dog kept running like his butt was on fire. A couple of people tried to stop him or at least slow him down, but he managed to elude them. He ran out into Caton and managed to avoid traffic and took off up Argyle. The street was closed for paving or something and again a few of the workers tried to stop the dog with no sucess. It ended up running full steam out into traffic a the next big two-way (McDonald??) and got hit by a car.
They all belong on leashes -- dogs and cars.
Rose Ninja
Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 911 Location: South Slope
Tue Sep 12, 06 10:23 pm EST
homeowner wrote:
There is another side to the off-leash story. I saw the sadest thing on Saturday. A guy was walking his dog in the parade grounds on Saturday morning. The dog was off-leash something spooked him and he took off running. The guy was chasing him screaming "No, stop, come back" but the dog kept running like his butt was on fire.
That is really sad for the dog but I don't think it proves much about offleash hours in the park. Dogs are supposed to be leashed in the parade grounds (actually, I think they're not supposed to be in there at all). A dog in the Long Meadow of Prospect Park is pretty safe from being hit by cars. I know once in a while a dog escapes from the park but really, they shouldn't be offleash anywhere if they don't know to come when they're called.
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Wed Sep 13, 06 8:10 pm EST
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