Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 526 Location: St Johns Plizizace
Fri Sep 22, 06 11:30 pm EST
Drano wrote:
Why give the jackass more exposure? Just curious...
Oh, did he convert you? I'm sorry then.
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Sat Sep 23, 06 10:13 am EST
Drano...I just knew you were suspect!
Drano Meow Wars Veteran
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1559
Sat Sep 23, 06 11:19 am EST
Isa wrote:
Drano wrote:
Why give the jackass more exposure? Just curious...
Oh, did he convert you? I'm sorry then.
Ha! From what to what?
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Sun Sep 24, 06 12:08 pm EST
Daily Slope Members wishing to debate the Middle East conflict or discuss websites’ vulnerability to hackers with political agendas, should do so openly and clearly.
Just throwing this link up without any background information for those of us unfamiliar with this hacker is confusing. There’s no value to visiting this link without any explanation.
It’s also inconsiderate to not warn the reader that the link contains disturbing images. It’s hard for weaker-stomach readers to scroll past the bloody images to get to the text.
escap expatriated
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1189
Sun Sep 24, 06 1:51 pm EST
What's the connection between Hunan Delight and the middle east conflict?
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Sun Sep 24, 06 1:57 pm EST
raw wrote:
Daily Slope Members wishing to debate the Middle East conflict or discuss websites’ vulnerability to hackers with political agendas, should do so openly and clearly.
I'm not quite sure that is your call, but I don't really see any debate going on here in any case.
escap expatriated
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1189
Sun Sep 24, 06 1:59 pm EST
One strange thing about this guy is that he seems to be opposed to Al Qaeda, which doesn't make much sense to me. You'd think their message would resonate with him, but he says that Al Qaeda is really a front for Jews and Americans. Hmmmmm, I don't get it.
Kind of reminds me of neo-nazis denying the holocaust. If they love naziism so much, why do they hate the holocaust? Or if they think the holocaust was a bad thing, then what's the appeal of naziism?
I wonder if there are socialists who believe that Castro and Chavez are really capitalist agents whose sole purpose is to make socialism look bad?
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Sun Sep 24, 06 2:00 pm EST
raw wrote:
It’s also inconsiderate to not warn the reader that the link contains disturbing images. It’s hard for weaker-stomach readers to scroll past the bloody images to get to the text.
I agree. It certainly isn't mandatory, but it is good netiquette.
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13566 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Sun Sep 24, 06 2:01 pm EST
escap wrote:
What's the connection between Hunan Delight and the middle east conflict?
They're attacking Jews where it hurts- the Chinese food!
escap expatriated
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 1189
Sun Sep 24, 06 2:09 pm EST
Carnivore wrote:
escap wrote:
What's the connection between Hunan Delight and the middle east conflict?
They're attacking Jews where it hurts- the Chinese food!
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Sun Sep 24, 06 2:20 pm EST
Completely off topic, but a favorite story.
Several years ago on X-mas eve, myself and another friend of the hebrew persuasion were walking towards 2nd Avenue Deli and a Chinese couple stopped us and asked us where the Deli was. It took all my restraint not to incredously say back to the guy , "We're supposed to be going to your restaurant tonight?!?"
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raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Sun Sep 24, 06 3:34 pm EST
steve wrote:
raw wrote:
Daily Slope Members wishing to debate the Middle East conflict or discuss websites’ vulnerability to hackers with political agendas, should do so openly and clearly.
I'm not quite sure that is your call, but I don't really see any debate going on here in any case.
You're right, it's not my call, unless I happen to be God and then what I say goes, Sweet Brooklyn Crab.
Call me a confused wuss, but I had no idea what the heck was going on when I clicked on that link.
Is there a debate? I don’t know. What’s the story behind the HunanDelight Hacker? I have no idea.
I confess, I was shocked and confused when I clicked on the link. Perhaps I lack a few brain cells and should be shot for requesting spoon-feeding. I had no idea why Isa put the link on this website and, because the images were of bloody children, I didn't have the stomach to read the accompanying text.
Then again, why am I obsessing about images of bloody children on this MockHunanDelight website when the New York Times opening page often contains the same?
Isa Crabby Native
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 526 Location: St Johns Plizizace
Sun Sep 24, 06 3:59 pm EST
You know what? I didn't even read the site, not debating anything. I don't know anything about the guy or his agenda, the value of the post was just in noting that the site was hacked. And what great value it was. I'm sure that everyone feels awesome because they can tell their friends and neighbors that the Hunan Delight site was hacked and they'll have to use menupages.com for all their sesame cold noodle needs.
I added a disclaimer on my original post.
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Sun Sep 24, 06 4:14 pm EST
Isa wrote:
You know what? I didn't even read the site, not debating anything. I don't know anything about the guy or his agenda, the value of the post was just in noting that the site was hacked. And what great value it was. I'm sure that everyone feels awesome because they can tell their friends and neighbors that the Hunan Delight site was hacked and they'll have to use menupages.com for all their sesame cold noodle needs.
I added a disclaimer on my original post.
Ha!
Guest
Sun Sep 24, 06 9:54 pm EST
Isa wrote:
You know what? I didn't even read the site, not debating anything. I don't know anything about the guy or his agenda, the value of the post was just in noting that the site was hacked. And what great value it was. I'm sure that everyone feels awesome because they can tell their friends and neighbors that the Hunan Delight site was hacked and they'll have to use menupages.com for all their sesame cold noodle needs.
I added a disclaimer on my original post.
Do you think Hunan Delight knows? If not, should we let them know?
Isa Crabby Native
Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 526 Location: St Johns Plizizace
Sun Sep 24, 06 11:32 pm EST
I told them when I ordered.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Mon Sep 25, 06 10:21 am EST
Man - they're slow in fixing the page, especially since the hacker said they just changed the index.html file. That's like a 1 min fix...
kosherdave The Kosherist
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 988
Mon Sep 25, 06 5:29 pm EST
8thandPrez wrote:
Man - they're slow in fixing the page, especially since the hacker said they just changed the index.html file. That's like a 1 min fix...
Wow, still hacked
anyone know what their phone number is? I think some of us should give them a call. Clearly they're not doing too much to fix this...
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13566 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Mon Sep 25, 06 5:32 pm EST
kosherdave wrote:
8thandPrez wrote:
Man - they're slow in fixing the page, especially since the hacker said they just changed the index.html file. That's like a 1 min fix...
Wow, still hacked
anyone know what their phone number is? I think some of us should give them a call. Clearly they're not doing too much to fix this...
They probably hired someone to do their site and have no idea how to fix it themselves.
If anyone here feels strongly about it, maybe you should give them a call and offer up your 1337 skilz toward fixing the site (pro bono of course).
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Mon Sep 25, 06 5:54 pm EST
Pro Bono? Why? Last time I looked they were still charging for their egg rolls.
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13566 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Mon Sep 25, 06 5:56 pm EST
steve wrote:
Pro Bono? Why? Last time I looked they were still charging for their egg rolls.
If you charge them for this, then you're letting the terrorists win!
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Mon Sep 25, 06 5:58 pm EST
ROTFLOL!
I don't do so much web development anymore so I'm only letting the terrorists win passively this time round.
8thandPrez Stroller Person
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: No longer at 8th and Prez
Mon Sep 25, 06 11:07 pm EST
If one were to, say, demand free Moo-Shu Mock Pork for a week, you'd become the immediate top suspect in the hacking. Pro-bono is the only choice.
rlonez Newbie
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 4
Tue Sep 26, 06 4:27 pm EST
Hi Everyone,
whois command showed the admins contact. I msg'd him and he is looking into it now.
RL
P.S. Cool site
dailyheights Honorary Fellow
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 3619 Location: Prospect Heights State of Mind
Wed Sep 27, 06 8:50 am EST
Isa's FYI to the owners didn't do much, but it looks like rlonez made a connection. The site is finally down for maintenance.
wlevin Newbie
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Park Slope
Wed Sep 27, 06 10:54 am EST
Carnivore wrote:
escap wrote:
What's the connection between Hunan Delight and the middle east conflict?
They're attacking Jews where it hurts- the Chinese food!
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Wed Sep 27, 06 2:21 pm EST
wmlevin, if you're offended by any aspect of the cartoon, why is their link in your signature? _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13566 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Wed Sep 27, 06 2:27 pm EST
wlevin wrote:
To be fair, isn't it equally offensive toward Jews? Yarmulke-wearing big-nosed sidelock-sporting black coat fellow too cheap to pay for his food?
But let's not turn this thread into another racism discussion ...
After looking here: http://shabot6000.com/about.php and realizing you're the author, I can see why you're being defensive about it, but try to look at it objectively. The Jewish character is clearly the protagonist in the cartoon, and the Chinese character is the butt of his joke.
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Park Slope
Wed Sep 27, 06 2:36 pm EST
Interestingly, TV Funhouse seems to get away just fine with stereotypes: Asian waiter with slanty eyes, black woman with broad nose and full lips, Jews with glasses and longer noses, even a gentile mom with a goyish little upturned nose.
Mod note: I'm sorry, but I unintentionally hit the moderator's "edit" button instead of the "quote" button and changed your post. I lost the original post, although I think I only cut out the part where you quoted me. This was totally my goof, and I apologize. Please repost you comment!
brooklynpotter ceramme ceramma danna
Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 3996 Location: near the square that's a circle
Wed Sep 27, 06 2:42 pm EST
yeah, i'm not finding them so funny. _________________ what would you tell me, if i could hear you speaking?--t.r.
pitu Fake Buddhist
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 6489 Location: Utopian Park Slope
Wed Sep 27, 06 3:01 pm EST
wlevin wrote:
But let's not turn this thread into another racism discussion ...
oy
why the heck not?
you author a racist cartoon and post it to this board and then suggest nobody should discuss racism? dude, don't put it out there if you don't want anyone to talk about it . . .
steve Cylon
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 1263
Wed Sep 27, 06 4:01 pm EST
You know what the cartoon remind me of, Christian rock. It had the same sort of cloying quality to it. It seems like whenever religion tries to artifically appropriate hipness this happens. Art criticism is not my thing thoguh so please don't take offense.
As for if it's offensive, someone else pointed out that the chinese (or as you disingenously intimated, Asian) guy was offensive. I like ethnic jokes so I'm cool with it, but it is very stereotypical. I'm not surprised by the reaction you're getting to it, or for that matter to your reactions.
Shalom Brother.
Precious Williams Local
Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 206 Location: North Slope
Wed Sep 27, 06 6:36 pm EST
wlevin wrote:
Interestingly, TV Funhouse seems to get away just fine with stereotypes: Asian waiter with slanty eyes, black woman with broad nose and full lips, Jews with glasses and longer noses, even a gentile mom with a goyish little upturned nose.
Those aren't really offensive stereotypes though are they? One could also say that its a steretype to portray a black person with brown skin when in fact lots of American Black people are more beige or even white-skinned (like Colin Powell). Yet, typically black people do have brown skin and fuller lips. And I have actually met a lot of Jewish people with big noses. There is a fine line here between "stereotype" and "common characteristics" _________________ www.preciouswilliams.com
Carnivore Brooklyn Snark
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 13566 Location: St Johns Pl and Underhill
Wed Sep 27, 06 6:39 pm EST
Precious Williams wrote:
wlevin wrote:
Interestingly, TV Funhouse seems to get away just fine with stereotypes: Asian waiter with slanty eyes, black woman with broad nose and full lips, Jews with glasses and longer noses, even a gentile mom with a goyish little upturned nose.
Those aren't really offensive stereotypes though are they? One could also say that its a steretype to portray a black person with brown skin when in fact lots of American Black people are more beige or even white-skinned (like Colin Powell). Yet, typically black people do have brown skin and fuller lips. And I have actually met a lot of Jewish people with big noses. There is a fine line here between "stereotype" and "common characteristics"
Yeah, this is kind of what I was thinking. It's one thing to have subtle features that identify a character as being of a certain race, but the kind of gross stereotype in the Shabbot 6000 cartoon is another thing entirely.
raw "Way Too Incestial"
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 2036
Wed Sep 27, 06 8:39 pm EST
Precious Williams wrote:
wlevin wrote:
Interestingly, TV Funhouse seems to get away just fine with stereotypes: Asian waiter with slanty eyes, black woman with broad nose and full lips, Jews with glasses and longer noses, even a gentile mom with a goyish little upturned nose.
Those aren't really offensive stereotypes though are they? One could also say that its a steretype to portray a black person with brown skin when in fact lots of American Black people are more beige or even white-skinned (like Colin Powell). Yet, typically black people do have brown skin and fuller lips. And I have actually met a lot of Jewish people with big noses. There is a fine line here between "stereotype" and "common characteristics"
I don’t understand why in today's American culture a person with an ounce of African ancestry – who might have numerous “white†European ancestors – is called "black" by "black" and "white" people alike, even if the “bi-racial†person has very pale skin. How pale does your skin have to be to be labeled “white�
Just wait until the aliens land. All of us humans will look identical to them before they pulverize all of us.
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