Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 121 Location: Park Slope
Wed Jan 20, 10 2:45 am EST
I know someone who's son has been "diagnosed" with this syndrome.
Is it me or does it sound like the medical community is reaching...
Now we have an actual autism-like classification for kids and people who don't make friends easily?
I am not saying that being unable to make eye contact and communicate normally are not serious quality of life issues, however are we giving medication for this now? _________________ Life's a PITCH
modsquad Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 1464
Wed Jan 20, 10 11:12 am EST
Are you upset that this person has been diagnosed with what you consider a rather mild if nonexistent mental condition? OR maybe you're upset that he has probably received a "free ride" courtesy of the Board of Ed.
dakotas way "Anonymous Guest"
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 442
Wed Jan 20, 10 1:16 pm EST
I've worked with a teenager with asperger's and my niece's boyfriend is diagnosed with it. They are both quite text book in their symptoms. Having eye contact challenges is a classic syndrom. One positive aspect is that they tend to be incredibly proficient in some area of their life. The boyfriend is an amazing guitarist. The teenage girl was a wonderful writer. But it is a real thing they deal with and it's not easy. The awkwardness and social challenges can be heartbreaking.
Are there meds for it? I don't know. But didn't your heart feel for that child when you were in school that, in retrospect, you now know probably had this to deal with and was alienated and lonely?
brokechick luftmensch
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 250 Location: gowanuwood sunslope
Wed Jan 20, 10 1:41 pm EST
asperger's is a disorder that leads to significant problems with socialization, but that isn't the sum of it. the problem is a cognitive one, and people with the condition aren't able to detect or process or respond appropriately to normal social cues. usually this doesn't make it just difficult to make friends; it makes it impossible to have a successful interpersonal exchange, and people can wind up with a social/emotional development level that is decades behind where most people at their age are. it can also lead to problems in school and delayed education, even though most people with asperger's are quite intelligent, particularly when it comes to language skills. like all autism classifications, it is a spectrum disorder, and the symptoms can range from relatively mild to severe. some people with asperger's seem just slightly eccentric, but some aren't able to live independently. there is no medication for it; if this boy you're talking about was given some sort of prescription, it wasn't for the asperger's itself. the medical community is not "reaching." the condition is very real and biologically based, and it is not autism-like, it is a true autism spectrum disorder. please don't judge or dismiss before you have full information. _________________ your girl is something of a shrew, hubbell.
Orange Fish µcus
Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 17 Location: Land of Malk and Soylent Green
Wed Jan 20, 10 5:17 pm EST
It's my understanding Asperger was defined in the mid-late 1940's. In some medical circles it is thought that everyone has Autistism and is subject to different degrees of it. A great number of intellectuals that are or have existed are believed to have suffered from Autism/Asperger. So, no I think the medical community is stretching.
whynot_31 Former Lurker
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 5681 Location: Prospect Heights
Wed Jan 20, 10 6:05 pm EST
brokechick wrote:
asperger's is a disorder that leads to significant problems with socialization, but that isn't the sum of it. the problem is a cognitive one, and people with the condition aren't able to detect or process or respond appropriately to normal social cues. usually this doesn't make it just difficult to make friends; it makes it impossible to have a successful interpersonal exchange, and people can wind up with a social/emotional development level that is decades behind where most people at their age are. it can also lead to problems in school and delayed education, even though most people with asperger's are quite intelligent, particularly when it comes to language skills. like all autism classifications, it is a spectrum disorder, and the symptoms can range from relatively mild to severe. some people with asperger's seem just slightly eccentric, but some aren't able to live independently. there is no medication for it; if this boy you're talking about was given some sort of prescription, it wasn't for the asperger's itself. the medical community is not "reaching." the condition is very real and biologically based, and it is not autism-like, it is a true autism spectrum disorder. please don't judge or dismiss before you have full information.
good job brokechick and dakotas way.
Yup, some folks with aspergers get meds for correlated conditions (for example, OCD behavior, etc) but the meds certainly don't treat or cure Aspergers.
Lots of research out there, all of which says a professional should not be diagnosing the Aspergers for just "not making friends"
That said, remember medical/psychiatric diagnosis change and evolve as we learn more. ....Homosexuality was a disorder until far too recently in the DSM. PTSD is still evolving and being defined, etc.
TVC15 Newbie
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 6 Location: Crown Heights
Thu Jan 21, 10 1:13 am EST
modsquad wrote:
Are you upset that this person has been diagnosed with what you consider a rather mild if nonexistent mental condition? OR maybe you're upset that he has probably received a "free ride" courtesy of the Board of Ed.
Not sure what you mean by "free ride"?
modsquad Carneviento Devotee
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 1464
Thu Jan 21, 10 1:29 pm EST
TVC15 wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "free ride"?
I am being facetious. The Bd of Ed. is required by law to give every child a free education. If there isn't a school within the city system that "fits" a particular handicap then they, the City, pays for your kid to go to a private school, tuition paid for by the City of New York.
HeightsMama Newbie
Joined: 04 May 2010 Posts: 2
Tue May 04, 10 10:21 am EST
For anyone interested...
GRASP (the Global and Regional Asperger Syndrome Partnership) runs a network of peer run support groups for teens and adults with AS along with their families and friends.
It also works within NYC's public school system to help teens with AS.
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