More muggin': The Assailants

Subject: More muggin': The Assailants

Has anyone been attacked by a person other than a YBM? Just curious.

Has anyone been attacked by a person other than a YBM? Just curious.

nice thread. ugh.

apologize in advance for a totally inappropriate post, but, can you imagine how much you'd clean up around brownstone brooklyn if you were an asian guy with a bike and a plastic bag full of soap bars? you just drive up on the side walk, wallop some yupsters and move on! i've heard "wonton!" shouted at me enough while biking through crown heights to know that it doesn't take much to blend into that disguise...

apologize in advance for a totally inappropriate post, but, can you imagine how much you'd clean up around brownstone brooklyn if you were an asian guy with a bike and a plastic bag full of soap bars?

clean up + soap bars? I dig the pun.

totally unintended. i just couldn't imagine doorknobs looking like someone's large chicken lo mein hanging from a bike handle.

Why is it "ugh"? We're on the lookout for crime apparently, what are we looking for? Seems weird to post twenty threads about muggings, beware, etc. and not say what we're looking for. So aside from YBM, anyone else mugging people in PH? Old men, Mexicans, MILFs?

cougars are indeed predatory!

Subject: Re: More muggin': The Assailants

Innocent X wrote: Has anyone been attacked by a person other than a YBM? Just curious.

You mean, in all of history?

what is it with men, anyway?

bobbybrummel wrote: cougars are indeed predatory!

Wish we had the rating system back, I'd give this a star.

I didn't know that hundreds of thousands of people were stopped by the PD in stop-and-frisks in 2006-7. For me, that's what comes to mind when anyone starts racial profiling and talking about YBM.

The NYPD released their database of stops to the Rand Corportation for a study that they published, but refuse to release the raw data. 850,000 stops? That's alot in a city of 8 million.
Anyway, here's the story

NYT last week

New York Times
3 Groups Lend Names to Suit Asking Release of Database

By AL BAKER
Published: January 10, 2008

Three groups, including The New York Times, have filed papers in support of a lawsuit seeking to have the police make public a database of officers’ recordings on more than 850,000 stops of civilians between January 2006 and September of last year.

The New York Civil Liberties Union filed the suit in State Supreme Court in Manhattan in November arguing that the Police Department’s computerized data on stop-and-frisk activities should be turned over for analysis so the role of race in street encounters can be better understood.

In addition to The Times, the New York City Bar Association and an unofficial collection of 21 scholars from around the country have joined in the effort to wrest the database from the Bloomberg administration to shine more light on what is being called one of the most elemental issues in law enforcement.

Requests for the raw data have been denied, and Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly of the Police Department has said that his officers are not practicing racial profiling in street stops. Requests from the City Council for the database have not been granted.

Jesse I. Levine, a senior counsel in the general litigation division of the city’s Law Department, said the papers from the three groups were being examined. As for the overarching suit, he said, “We will have a response to that defending the commissioner’s position.”

The city must answer the suit by Tuesday, said Christopher T. Dunn, associate legal director of the civil liberties group, who said the judge must still decide whether the groups can join the case.

The civil liberties group filed its suit a week before the Rand Corporation released a report in November on its independent assessment of the stops. The three groups sought to join the suit after the report’s release. The department — through the Police Foundation — commissioned the nonprofit Rand Corporation for the study early last year after its release of statistics showing a large increase in the number of street stops led some critics to suggest that minorities were unfairly singled out, a claim the police deny.

The department’s database — with details on the time and location of stops, the reasons for them and the race of those stopped — was given to the Rand analysts. At one point, the Rand study states, “Over all, after adjusting for stop circumstances, we generally found small racial differences in the rates of frisk, search, use of force, and arrest.”

The department’s refusal to make the database public, however, “is out of step with the practices of major police departments elsewhere in the country,” according to the brief written by Andrew G. Celli Jr., a lawyer for the group of 21, which includes criminologists, economists, sociologists and other academics.

where is the line between racial profiling and interpreting crime statistics?

pitu wrote: I didn't know that hundreds of thousands of people were stopped by the PD in stop-and-frisks in 2006-7. For me, that's what comes to mind when anyone starts racial profiling and talking about YBM.

The NYPD released their database of stops to the Rand Corportation for a study that they published, but refuse to release the raw data. 850,000 stops? That's alot in a city of 8 million.
Anyway, here's the story

There are a few things to remember...

-There are people who were stopped multiple times over the course of time. Multiple SQF reports were submitted on the same person.
-SQF reports are often submitted as part of an arrest package. For example...While canvassing the area after a report of a robbery Officer Crabtree and Officer Flatfoot stop somebody matching the description provided by the officers interviewing the victim. When the victim is brought to the see the person stopped he says,"That's him. That's the guy who stole my Mickey Mouse watch." The stop and question ultimately led to an arrest and a SQF report should be prepared.
-SQF reports are part of a performance goal. This is especially true for officers assigned to "impact" or some type of summons overtime. Often the names for these SQFs come from the mail left laying around a vestibule, tombstones, or the sports section.

ParadeRest wrote: -SQF reports are part of a performance goal. This is especially true for officers assigned to "impact" or some type of summons overtime. Often the names for these SQFs come from the mail left laying around a vestibule, tombstones, or the sports section.

I find it hard to believe that any member of the NYPD would be guilty of falsifying...

Er wait, forget it, you probably know better than me.

wait. what's an SQF? single queer female?

Stop Question and Frisk.


P.S. Ya freaks!

daver wrote: Stop Question and Frisk.


P.S. Ya freaks!

oh. sorry, I read every internet post like a personal ad.

Fjord wrote:
clean up + soap bars? I dig the pun.

+1 ... thinking the same thing.

+1 ... thinking the same thing.

I cannot stop thinking about these posts...I walk home from 7th Ave Q,B or Crunch at approx. 7pm each weekday evening. Up Park, north on Vanderbilt, then east on Prospect Place to my apt. Or sometimes east on Park.

I've been trying to time it so there's peeps in front of me, and the adjacent sidewalk, and some behind me. Everyone that walks past me I tend to look in the eyes. I walk pretty damn fast. I getting a wee bit paranoid, man. Especially when I think of my s/o walking the same streets at similar times.

maybe we should all walk home together, while holding hands.

though we should be careful if we pass mr. met. way more than muggers, i'm fearful of getting rolled by rabid mets fans, especially after last year, what with the 'P' patch on my SATCHEL. i can just see the cops response now: LEAVE OUR CITY.

oh god, youre a philly phan?

i get screamed pork fried rice or sometimes wonton by kids in poor predominately black areas a lot, usually ignore them.

must be hungry since i do delivery by van.

mr. met wrote: oh god, youre a philly phan?

if you sign santana i am going to cry like a baby. rumor has it yer close with the other hernandez (bros, cute!), so i'm hopeful that means you'll give up on trying for an ace.

armchair_warrior wrote: i get screamed pork fried rice or sometimes wonton by kids in poor predominately black areas a lot, usually ignore them.

when i lived on new york ave, i would get kids bowing to me or saying "hello mr. chinese man!" my favorite was late one night on hampton or virginia pl some kid just said to me "chinese?" and i said "no, vietnamese" to which he responded "what the hell is that?" believe it or not, i also got razzed for looking like a chabadnik riding aroudn the wrong side of the parkway.

lol i haven't gotten the bowing thing in a long time. but i still get the mocking ching chong thing once a while.

yea, ive heard we're close on santana. definitely the frontrunners.

we don't really need him, though. the NL east is ours.

armchair_warrior wrote: lol i haven't gotten the bowing thing in a long time. but i still get the mocking ching chong thing once a while.

Seriously!!? WTF is wrong with people.

I'll tell you what is wrong with them: They are racists, plain and simple.

silverager wrote: I'll tell you what is wrong with them: They are racists, plain and simple.

not really. with so much real racism out there, you can't get too worked up about some kids being a little stupid.

here's a story about real asian racism: i signed up to take part in a champagne taste test (paid $70 for an hour of drinking!). during the phone sign up, they asked me my race and after initially balking, i just said "asian." the person on the other end told me sorry, no asian slots left. i assumed they wanted to keep a strict racial mix to get the best results. i told the guy just put down white, since i had already explained to him that i was half and could go either way. once i got to the actual survey... everyone was white or black! apparently the champagne industry does not care what asian americans think about champagne.

No, it's racism. Most like likely learned behavior from their elders. Believe me, those kids know what they are saying is wrong and would certainly get bent out of shape if equivalent slurs against their race were made towards them. The more we accept this and say "kids will be kids", the more it will happen. The only way it will stop is if they, and if possible - their parents, are called on it every time.

kosherdave wrote: [quote=armchair_warrior]lol i haven't gotten the bowing thing in a long time. but i still get the mocking ching chong thing once a while.

Seriously!!? WTF is wrong with people.

yeap