Park Slope- area around 21st St. 6th Ave

I've lived in the area long enough to know that this is not really Park Slope. It's Greenwood Heights. That being said, I'm going to be looking at a few new condos this weekend in that area. Any opinions on the area? I guess it's all relative, but, thoughts regarding safety? The overall "feel" of the area? I already assume if I were to come to live there I would be conducting all my day-to-day activities in the Slope. Thanks!

It's pretty cool - you've got Southside there, and Lopez Bakery. A great hardware store. I'd say, jump in. The "feel" is fine except for the raccoons!

Yes, raccoons and a lot of bedbugs up there too, so be sure to check bedbugregistry.com for any places. As long as there are people on the street, it's fine. You are reliant on the R train though unless you take the bus up 7th or walk it from the F train. But the new Ctown just opened, there are some good places to eat and drink. It's a lot of families and young people.

I love that area these days. Quarter is a great bar at 5th and 20th... and Luigi's is the best pizza anywhere within the area that anyone might remotely consider "Park Slope" with a straight face.

Quarter is awesome. So is the laundry place next to it.

dang, i wish luigi's delivered. or, perhaps it's better for my dieting needs that it doesn't

Im on 20th, and it is loud! with the truck route and all. Still, I love the area. 21st is nice, I am sure you'll dig it. Quarter, SafeHaven, Toby's, EuroTrip, El Rincon, etc etc. I like Lenny's more than Luigi's, Luigi's is close and works just fine.

yea 21st is awesome I just moved to this block. It reminds me of williamsburg back in 1998 before it was totally "discovered" and hipsterfied. Its got a nice mix of hipsters families queers and yuppies and of course the polish and latino communities. quarter bar is awesome, and i hear tobys is great but i cant eat wheat so i don't go there southside coffe has the best coffe in the hood but i usually go to roots on 5th b/t 18th and 19th cuz it's got a great vibe. southside needs to maybe hang up a picture of something oh and big apple vegetable stand between 19th and 20th on 5th is the Sh*T! hummus is $2.99 there and decent produce.

oh and I actually prefer to stay out of park slope these days. I moved here from clinton hill so the park slope scene is a little too frat boy for me. Even though they are nice and not mean fratties, I prefer the nerds and the gays. But i get everything i need here in greenwood. no need to go to frat slope. greenwood rules! (some fratties but they are cool) Although iv'e notice lately on the nytimes real estate section that they have changed everything from prospect expressway down to like 65th street into "sunset park" even though my map of brooklyn from 1982 has this area marked as "greenwood"
oh well it doesn't matter sunset park is great too. this neighbor hood does feel like its own "beast" it is NOT park slope and NOT sunset park. I'll take greenwood

Generalize much?

Mystery Daddy wrote: oh and I actually prefer to stay out of park slope these days. I moved here from clinton hill so the park slope scene is a little too frat boy for me. Even though they are nice and not mean fratties, I prefer the nerds and the gays. But i get everything i need here in greenwood. no need to go to frat slope. greenwood rules! (some fratties but they are cool) Although iv'e notice lately on the nytimes real estate section that they have changed everything from prospect expressway down to like 65th street into "sunset park" even though my map of brooklyn from 1982 has this area marked as "greenwood"
oh well it doesn't matter sunset park is great too. this neighbor hood does feel like its own "beast" it is NOT park slope and NOT sunset park. I'll take greenwood

does this mean i'm a frattie? i'm certainly not a hipster. what am i? flexi?

and my mother grew up up what was then called flatbush, but is now ditmas, and says that everything south of park slope was bay ridge.

parking seems to be pretty decent around there as well... especially due to all the streets w/out houses around the cemetery and various commercial buildings...

also, BEST CARWASH IN NEW YORK

Mystery Daddy wrote: oh and I actually prefer to stay out of park slope these days. I moved here from clinton hill so the park slope scene is a little too frat boy for me. Even though they are nice and not mean fratties, I prefer the nerds and the gays. But i get everything i need here in greenwood. no need to go to frat slope. greenwood rules! (some fratties but they are cool) Although iv'e notice lately on the nytimes real estate section that they have changed everything from prospect expressway down to like 65th street into "sunset park" even though my map of brooklyn from 1982 has this area marked as "greenwood"
oh well it doesn't matter sunset park is great too. this neighbor hood does feel like its own "beast" it is NOT park slope and NOT sunset park. I'll take greenwood

Geez, what a load of crap!

what is a frattie?

brooklynpotter wrote: what is a frattie?

A fat frat boy? Funny, I've never seen what I would call "frat boys" in the slope. I guess over at the sporto bars....

i went to a college without fraternities or sororities. i guess i'm not a frattie. phew!

Mystery Daddy wrote: yea 21st is awesome I just moved to this block. It reminds me of williamsburg back in 1998 before it was totally "discovered" and hipsterfied. Its got a nice mix of hipsters families queers and yuppies and of course the polish and latino communities. quarter bar is awesome, and i hear tobys is great but i cant eat wheat so i don't go there southside coffe has the best coffe in the hood but i usually go to roots on 5th b/t 18th and 19th cuz it's got a great vibe. southside needs to maybe hang up a picture of something oh and big apple vegetable stand between 19th and 20th on 5th is the Sh*T! hummus is $2.99 there and decent produce.

yeah, because williamsburg was so undiscovered in 98. if you're gonna be a hater at least be a competent one.

greenwood is nice. cool vibe. a little bit of everything. working folks, yuppies, artists, old schoolers, etc. though i've noticed more hipsters showing up in the last couple of years. still, it's not overrun by the stroller set like park slope.

I actually noticed on the Zagat website that they refer to it as the South Slope, or the Southern Southern Slope or the So So Slo. Interesting, i guess the boundaries are fuzzy.

uh guys I'm not being a hater!!! I am saying i love greenwood heights , and sorry but since 2002 the vibe of park slope has changed, what was once referred to as dyke slope I have heard been called baby slope or frat slope. I mean, I am not saying that is ALL that is there. There are still plenty of artists, musicians, dykes, fags, professionals, hipsters,regular people, very nice people, natives, etc... I like park slope and hang out there sometimes. Tons of my friends still live there. but, I just prefer the vibe in greenwood. I am not saying anything hateful. It's just what I prefer.

Oh and I said "discovered" when I referred to willy burg because seriously go back in time to 1998 and go to south 1st street and then go there now. TRuST me there is a huge difference. I know this because I am definitely not cool enough to walk around south 1st street anymore. Oh and all the crack heads and junkies that used to hang out at kellogs have been replaced by hipsters. Oh and all the bodega's are now organic "markets" that i can't afford. oh and my $800 a month 2 bedroom is now $3500.
I'm not sayin' i'm an expert, I just lived there in '98 - it's different there now.

Mystery Daddy wrote: Oh and I said "discovered" when I referred to willy burg because seriously go back in time to 1998 and go to south 1st street and then go there now. TRuST me there is a huge difference. I know this because I am definitely not cool enough to walk around south 1st street anymore. Oh and all the crack heads and junkies that used to hang out at kellogs have been replaced by hipsters. Oh and all the bodega's are now organic "markets" that i can't afford. oh and my $800 a month 2 bedroom is now $3500.
I'm not sayin' i'm an expert, I just lived there in '98 - it's different there now.

I think people's point is that by '98, it was already way different than it had been in say '90. It's just spread further from the Bedford L stop since then.

Frat boys? Now that's a new one.

Mamacita wrote: Frat boys? Now that's a new one.

Um, actually for a while now they've been quite noticeable, during the weekends, all over the 5th Ave bars.

Yeah? Like actually fraternity boys, or are we talking aging hipsters or more like the loud 200 Fifth bar crowd (which is more of local hip hop sorta crowd)? Do you see them during the day? or night? Are they from Pratt University?

Huh, I do notice that there is an increase in late 20's "working in manhattan" party in Brooklyn types.

Anyways I'm rambling, just bored and find this intriguing. MK let's met up and hunt down these Frat Bastards. We'll need our Vitamin J beforehand of course!

Not actual frat boys but more of the 20-something+, douchy, predatory, "Jaegerbomb" variety. Just ask the single ladies.

En garde, cherie Mamacita! Vitamin J shall be our sacred elixir!

"i've lived in the area long enough to know that this is not really Park Slope. It's Greenwood Heights. "

maybe the op should ask this question on the Greenwood Heights board, then.