No more bed bug talk,back to people getting shot!

Shooting
626 Nostrand Ave X Dean St
Brooklyn, NY
4/17/2009 1:39 p.m.

DOA?

...or just guy with bad aim?

A block away - broad daylight - super crowded street - AWESOME!

injuries? NRA member?

Subject: What's Wrong with da Hood

BoogieKnight wrote: A block away - broad daylight - super crowded street - AWESOME!

Are you kidding me? This kind of attitude is what's wrong with the hood and perpetuates the stereotypes.

BoogieKnight is likely engaging in something called sarcasm. It may be be safe to assume that we probably won't get into the the socio-economic effects and causes of violence on a thread entitled "enough about bedbugs, back to people getting shot".

But we'll see, it's Friday afterall.

...sometimes you gotta just shake your head.

Walked past on the way home. What's crazy is that by 6:45pm the wall in front of where I assume the shooting happened was already pretty much full of graffiti honoring the victim and had votive candles, flowers, the works.

If it happened at 1:30 or so I would've expected the crime scene to be taped off and off bounds.

I know I'm opening myself up to abuse now, but screw it - the graffiti I saw seemed "Gang-y" for lack of a better term. Anyone else see it?

Am I way offbase here or what? Anybody more aware wanna school an old man on what the tags were about?

Subject: Re: What's Wrong with da Hood

OrbitBoy wrote: [quote=BoogieKnight]A block away - broad daylight - super crowded street - AWESOME!

Are you kidding me? This kind of attitude is what's wrong with the hood and perpetuates the stereotypes.

Ah, dude, sarcasm. I've been on my mom all week to take my little girl for a walk to the children's museum now that the weather's getting warmer.

We walk up Dean to Brooklyn Ave when we walk to the museum.

So guns blazing on a lovely 70 degree Friday afternoon is NOT cool.

That's the problem with nice weather...nice weather makes it more comfortable for more people, including thugs, to hang around out side. In the winter it can get so cold that not even the one dares freeze their ass off waiting for someone to shoot or risks slipping on ice when jumping someone.

Just today I was unintentionally attacked by a guitar that some dumb wannabee hippie kid was playing as he walked down the street not looking where he was going. If it were winter, I wouldn't have to worry about jackasses playing dumb guitars as they prance down the street with their eyes closed.

An 18-year-old was gunned down yesterday on a busy Crown Heights street.

Cops found the teen with a single gunshot wound to the chest.

He died at Kings County Hospital.

The victim's name was withheld pending family notification

I saw the crowd on that corner while driving past and stopped at the traffic light. Looked to be a solemn kind of ceremony with nearly 30 votive candles lit. Also saw the graffiti tag, which I don't understand. The crowd seemed to be a mix of young and old. Clearly there was a sense of remorse, regret and mourning for another young life being snuffed out.

As such, I would hope the operative "Don't Snitch" philosophy would be seen as self-destructive, along with young males, in particular, hanging out on the corners engaging in stereotypical behaviors.

As someone who has grown up in the neighborhood, I remember feeling alienated from some of my friends, because my parents wouldn't let me hang out the corners. Ultimately, I managed to meet the challenge of finding things to do that had nothing to do with street corner commerce and violence. Accordingly, I was able to meet and engage with different classes and cultures, while many f my childhood friends were killed, or ended up in jail.

Sad to see the pattern repeat itself so often.

Here's a shocking twist...The victim was found to be in possession of a quantity of marijuana.

Extremely tragic and sad.. Rest in peace young man.

ParadeRest wrote: Here's a shocking twist...The victim was found to be in possession of a quantity of marijuana.

Ok- but how much- 20lbs? I mean, c'mon, just cause the kid had a little reefer on him doesn't mean he was a dealer or a thug.
Sorry, but your argument of reefer=he deserved it is totally lame.

EVERYBODY smokes the weed. Your MOMMA smokes the weed!

Shit, if I let you into my house...

actually, everyone does not smoke weed....

For many its a right of passage from being a kid to an adult.
However, many young males who volunteer to fit the thug stereotype
by hanging out on corners, suffer the consequences.

Others, who don't volunteer for the thug stereotype avoid risky behavior, also give up smoking weed,
because it becomes clear that it can stand in the way of being responible enough for having a life, family, etc..

How could I justify not smoking weed to my kids, if I smoked weed...?

Interesting editorial from the Philadelphia Inquirer:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20090419_The_Point__Marijuana_should_be_legal__and_left_alone.html

More than that, the prohibition of marijuana gives police an undue amount of leverage over average citizens. When something as widespread as pot possession is illegal, police can use it as an excuse to harass whole classes of otherwise law-abiding citizens. It should come as no surprise that the majority of those possession busts were young black and Latino men, even though surveys show that most of the marijuana users in this country are white.

What most angers me about illegal drugs is that the trade in them supports heavily-armed criminal organizations that act without respect for the basic human rights of those who happen to be in their way. This is true here and it is true in the producer countries.

Sorry if this is unpleasant to hear, but buying illegal drugs is wrong. Buying illegal drugs is every bit as bad as buying blood diamonds.

People keep buying them, though. And oil from the Nigerian delta. And wood from the Borneo rainforests. And soya from the clear-cut Amazon. We all are doing our part somehow. We all suck. Some of us get caught in the crossfire.

Rest In Peace, young man

this kid was in a gang and selling drugs on the corner. from a good family but still hanging on the corner. he got popped for a stupid arguement that happened a couple of weeks ago and he wasnt even part of it really. but that is thug life and that will keep happening until they realize how really stupid it is,

http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

Tsarina, I agree: Until they realize how really stupid it is. "They" meaning those who sell it or those who buy it or those who decide it should be illegal. If one of three quits, the whole stupid thing is over.

sandcastler wrote: http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

Tsarina, I agree: Until they realize how really stupid it is. "They" meaning those who sell it or those who buy it or those who decide it should be illegal. If one of three quits, the whole stupid thing is over.

The first 2 have never occurred for any recreational substance that anyone has ever tried to ban. Hope for number 3, since it's the only end to this madness.

tsarina wrote: this kid was in a gang and selling drugs on the corner. from a good family but still hanging on the corner. he got popped for a stupid arguement that happened a couple of weeks ago and he wasnt even part of it really. but that is thug life and that will keep happening until they realize how really stupid it is,

BINGO! Anybody who doubts the validity of that comment should get check out the sidewalk memorial that has been erected. The red bandanas, photos and graffiti should make it all alittle bit clearer.

This "misguided" youth had been arrested 7 times before his timely demise and was certainly no innocent victim.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=sandcastler]http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

Tsarina, I agree: Until they realize how really stupid it is. "They" meaning those who sell it or those who buy it or those who decide it should be illegal. If one of three quits, the whole stupid thing is over.

The first 2 have never occurred for any recreational substance that anyone has ever tried to ban. Hope for number 3, since it's the only end to this madness.

Based on this logic, I'm going to stop eating out because it encourages illegal immigration. Most restaurants have undocumented workers, if no one ate them, they would not be exploited by people helping them cross the border ...or the restaurants who pay them below minimum wage.

(the above would be sarcasm)

bottom line, young kids, males in particular need to stop volunteering for the hype of street commerce, and thug life . granted, circumstances may make it difficult to rise above their surroundings...but those that can see past the hype, to the consequences should not be co-signing this behavior.

Namely, parents and neighbors should not just look the other way, block associations should be utilized, activities besides consumerism should be organized, and yes, cops should be called when necessary. We all want to be safe, and we especially should give our kids a chance for more than a street corner memorial. nuff said

This is the story of Chad...

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/04/26/2009-04-26_another_young_man_is_dead_in_brooklyn__the_rise_and_fall_of_a_superhero.html

Wow, that article is fascinating. So everything that could be done - from cradle to grace - to give the kid a head start in life was just a waste of time.

Sober, responsible parents, mentors, family, stable home, food in his belly, work ethic, value of an education - all of it meaningless.

So unless the kid had some sort of undiagnosed behavioral disorder or suffered worse trauma at the beatdown he took that he let on or his family hid some sort of unwholesomeness - the kid just chucked everything aside so that he could die in the streets.

Depressing.

for some kids, the street is a choice. ...it is alluring, macho, fast moving and exciting. In their eyes, nothing else compares.

For other kids, it is the only choice they see, and they can be shown something else

...so please keep funding the after school programs, etc. They keep a lot of kids from Chad's fate.