g train extension coming soon!

some good news:

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/32/20/32_20_mm_g_spot.html

Now if they could just extend the V train to follow the F line out of Manhattan, that would be great. That stupid train seems to run all the time and only goes to 2nd ave.

hate the V train

The V train should be an express F. Or the F should be express and the V the local.

sharpie wrote: The V train should be an express F. Or the F should be express and the V the local.

exactly!

YES! about the G train, it will make my commute only slightly less stressful.
YES! to the V train hatin' and the idea of V/F local/express...so, how do we make that happen? Hey, a girl can wish... :?

Yay for this!

Seriously I might actually go visit my Gpoint friends now!

scarlett wrote: Seriously I might actually go visit my Gpoint friends now!

lets not get carried away

before I get carried away I want to see how bad the serve on the line gets due to the Culver Viaduct rehab. This will be a long work period.

You know the G train extension is not because we wanted it its because the Culver Viaduct is going to be so under construction that the G can't turn around there. It's for the MTA's convenience, not the riders.

And yea, bring the V to Brooklyn

The G train news makes me so happy, I'll be down in PS a lot more now. As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

The G train news makes me so happy, I'll be down in PS a lot more now. As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

rtraindweller wrote: As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

rtraindweller wrote: As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

BrooklynJack wrote: [quote=rtraindweller]As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

I think the fact that the G has to make a "u-turn" in the middle of the line, gets in the way of regular use of the express track.

BrooklynJack wrote: [quote=rtraindweller]As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

I think the fact that the G has to make a "u-turn" in the middle of the line, gets in the way of regular use of the express track.

ringrunner wrote: [quote=BrooklynJack][quote=rtraindweller]As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

I think the fact that the G has to make a "u-turn" in the middle of the line, gets in the way of regular use of the express track.

there is no use the express track except for the G to turn around and begin it's trip to queens. express f service didnt last very long due to rider disapproval (mta listened?!?). terminating the V at Coney Island would not be worth it as it. it's intended to relieve congestion on the F in Manhattan but how often is a V train packed?

ringrunner wrote: [quote=BrooklynJack][quote=rtraindweller]As for bringing the V into Brooklyn it wouldn't really make much sense. Where would it terminate? I

It would terminate where the F does but it would run express from the city and relieve the congestion on the F.

I think the fact that the G has to make a "u-turn" in the middle of the line, gets in the way of regular use of the express track.

there is no use the express track except for the G to turn around and begin it's trip to queens. express f service didnt last very long due to rider disapproval (mta listened?!?). terminating the V at Coney Island would not be worth it as it. it's intended to relieve congestion on the F in Manhattan but how often is a V train packed?

rtraindweller wrote:
express f service didnt last very long due to rider disapproval (mta listened?!?).

When was there official F express service? Can you cite a report that actually said there was rider disapproval?

rtraindweller wrote:
terminating the V at Coney Island would not be worth it as it. it's intended to relieve congestion on the F in Manhattan but how often is a V train packed?

A better question is how often is the F packed and how would extending the V to Brooklyn change it.

BrooklynJack wrote:
When was there official F express service? Can you cite a report that actually said there was rider disapproval?

There was express F service from the mid-60's until the mid-70's. It was not well implemented because, IIRC, during rush hours all F's ran express between Church & Bergen (& alternate F's express 18th Ave - Kings Highway), so the G provided the only local service. This especially annoyed passengers at Carroll St, who would have to ride the G one stop, then change for an F at the Bergen lower level (which is now closed). One of the proposals I read calls for the the V to run express to Church Ave. the F & G would provide local service, so this avoids the problems of the previous service.

I sure can.

"In July 1968, service was extended to Church Avenue, and the F train operated as an express service on the IND Culver Line. This service pattern ended in August 1976 because many customers at local stations on the Culver Line wanted direct access to Manhattan."

From G train entry on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_Train

Also read up on some stations on the Crosstown Local line that share that shares overlapping service with the G and F trains coming off the Culver line.

http://www.nycsubway.org/lines/crosstown.html

erratum8mm wrote: [quote=BrooklynJack]
When was there official F express service? Can you cite a report that actually said there was rider disapproval?

There was express F service from the mid-60's until the mid-70's. It was not well implemented because, IIRC, during rush hours all F's ran express between Church & Bergen (& alternate F's express 18th Ave - Kings Highway), so the G provided the only local service. This especially annoyed passengers at Carroll St, who would have to ride the G one stop, then change for an F at the Bergen lower level (which is now closed). One of the proposals I read calls for the the V to run express to Church Ave. the F & G would provide local service, so this avoids the problems of the previous service.

Would that proposal include rehabbing the lower level platforms at Bergen? I've always wanted to see that in action. Would the V be making the same local stops coming into Brooklyn that the F does entering Bergen?

If the V extension doesn't happen (and it probably won't), then they should run the G express all the way from Bergen to Stillwell. That way, local-stop customers retain the direct Manhattan access, and people on express stops can opt to take the express and transfer (which many already would do anyway, to take the A), or wait for the local and have a one-seat ride. This scenario would only improve service, and wouldn't take away any convenience that already exists.

dixiecupdrinking wrote: If the V extension doesn't happen (and it probably won't), then they should run the G express all the way from Bergen to Stillwell. That way, local-stop customers retain the direct Manhattan access, and people on express stops can opt to take the express and transfer (which many already would do anyway, to take the A), or wait for the local and have a one-seat ride. This scenario would only improve service, and wouldn't take away any convenience that already exists.

I would agree with that as long as 4th Ave were a local stop. Adding that connection to the 4th Ave BMT is going to be a huge thing for riders of that and the IND Crosstown line.