Moving to the Area

Hi all,
I'm thinking about moving to Prospect Place between Rochester and Utica Ave.
Can anyone tell me anything about the area?
Much appreciated!

Pack your AK!

I used to the live there. You shouldn't.

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Mougar wrote: I used to the live there. You shouldn't.

LOL I would never live there....

Not the safest area and has few amenities. Some corner delis, hair salons, a Jamaican restaurant here and there, not much else. Pretty boring, actually.

well based on the last two weeks, i don't see how prospect b/w rochester and utica can be much worse than either side of franklin where there are lots of new expensive-looking buildings. franklin has seen a lot of shootings recently and i think the consensus is (was) it's one of the safer streets in crown heights.

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Franklin has long been considered one of the least safe, most drug invested avenues of Crown Heights.

what streets in crown heights would you consider safer than franklin?

i'd say classon, new york, and brooklyn avenues. i think franklin is one of the safer, more-gentrified streets in the neighborhood.

gentrified doesn't mean safe.

point taken, whynot. i just see all new biz on the street and think maybe the neighborhood is going to turn around. unfortunately every time the police turn around, there is a shooting.

i didn't say that gentrified = safe. that wasn't the point of my thought.

take "more-gentrified" out of my post if that makes you feel better.

no, i think taking "more-gentrified" out makes your statement false. it's not a safe street based on the events of the last two weeks. still, there are signs of a "more-gentrified" lifestyle on this street. see lily & fig, franklin park, slice of brooklyn, bombay masala, produce stand, bristen's and if there ever were a sign of gentrification it's nairobi's knapsack.

note: i'm not saying gentrified is all bad, especially since i still see existing establishments holding their own on the street.

i stand by my first post. which avenues, other than the ones i listed, do you think are safer, or nicer or whatever, than franklin?

i'd probably say some of the avenues south of eastern parkway, but i don't really know.

going back to the original post in this thread, it seems everyone wrote off newbrooklynite's coordinates. meanwhile we must be in double digits with the franklin ave shooting threads from the past month.

How about we take a huge leap, and assume that drug sales of things more serious than weed = unsafe street.

...in my opinion, this is what contributes to Franklin's "unsafety".

There aren't a lot of streets where I see open drug dealing and wads of cash in the hands of group of 8+ youth. Franklin is one of them.

on one hand, i agree with you about the drugs. they obviously make conditions unsafe.

i don't know, though. i just FEEL safer on Franklin, especially south of, say, bergen, despite the recent shootings. nostrand, rogers, bedford, kingston, albany...no thanks.

I've lived just a few doors east of Franklin for several years now, and while I agree with you that I feel "safer" there than on, say, Nostrand (a good parallel, as some of the other avenues mentioned are more residential than commercial/storefronts, as Nostrand and Franklin both are) but I have to believe that its because its what I know. In other words, I don't venture often to Nostrand, and as such don't recognize the faces on most corners over there, whereas I feel comfortable on Franklin due to recognition.

Is Franklin particularly safe? I'm not convinced it isn't, but you could certainly find trouble, or at least a situation, if you were looking for it. Has it gotten worse in the 4-5 years since my wife and I moved here? No, not really.

Oh, to answer the OP's question (and bring the thread back to that), I personally don't feel very comfortable going further east than Brooklyn Ave, or Kingston maybe. I know that there are some very nice blocks that far east and even further, Brower Park, for instance, is very nice. But my feeling is that there are a lot less amenities there and 11213 (from NY Ave east) has a somewhat higher violent crime rate than 11216 (7 of 10 vs. 6 of 10). Honestly, we have a good amount of friends in the neighborhood who were born and raised here, and if they don't like going that far east, than I certainly don't either.