No more WIFi for those nursing a single cup of coffee

So if you are going to rent a table at a coffee shop....sounds like you gotta buy a little more than a lousy cup of coffee if you want that table all day:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124950421033208823.html#mod=rss_US_News

bout damn time

well, she could however make them pay per hour for internet usage.

Just set her router to let a DHCP lease expire after a certain time. Probably use a mac address filter too.

But it may be significantly less then a normal customer anyway (if she is in fact, THAT busy)

vidro3 wrote: bout damn time

Seriously.

hitokiri wrote: well, she could however make them pay per hour for internet usage.

Just set her router to let a DHCP lease expire after a certain time. Probably use a mac address filter too.

But it may be significantly less then a normal customer anyway (if she is in fact, THAT busy)

I've regularly seen Naidre's that busy. The place gets insanely mobbed at times. I've wanted to sit and eat my breakfast or lunch there at least once or twice in the past few months, and have been out of luck due to all tables filled. Thankfully, I live close enough that I just get my food/coffee to go. Others probably leave because they can't sit.

oh man! now i can't sit all day in public trying earnestly to look super important and intellectual as i write shitty posts for my blog that no one reads or start writing the next chapter in my book.

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Flynn, I know! Isn't it awful? There goes your hope of attracting the attention of an earnest, yet hawt, NYU Women's Studies grad student! This will put a terrible damper on the mating practices of the local wannabe-literati!

I don't bring my computer to the local coffee shop to look important. Anyone who thinks they look important because they have a computer in a coffee shop is almost as stupid as people who think that's the reason people bring their computer.

That being said, I think this is a good idea. I like limiting people as some take advantage of the wifi for sure. Red Horse doesn't allow power on the weekends... that's helped them. I think they should go a step further and never allow power.

i've never been a fan of free wifi anyway (free wifi that WASNT controlled by a real system that is)

It's a security issue and anyone who is in the area can use your connection for malicious purposes.

It's ridiculously stupid how easy it is to access someones computer if they are on the same network or even use the connection to mask what they are doing.

but this is way OT

Brooke Lynn Knight wrote: Flynn, I know! Isn't it awful? There goes your hope of attracting the attention of an earnest, yet hawt, NYU Women's Studies grad student! This will put a terrible damper on the mating practices of the local wannabe-literati!

Ha! +17 for you.

I like how S'nice limits laptop use. Seeing the sign on each table is hard to ignore! But taking a stand for civilization, and all that implies, is appreciated.

It is amazing to me that this needs to be regulated....but it does. When I have gone to a coffee shop to work, if it is empty, I stay and work. The minute it is busy....I pack up and leave. I would NEVER "rent" a table when others have paid for food and can't sit. On the other hand, having worked in the restaurant business, having people at tables looks MUCH better than an empty cafe. So it is a tricky balance and it is too bad people don't have the common sense to know when to get up and GO home and work!

I guess I'll go somewhere else for free Wifi. Like Tea Lounge (which is great except for their crappy coffee).

Mpmav1's suggestion that cafe's never supply power is a good one. Why should they pay for my sucking their electricity? I also think that regulating hours for laptop using is also a good thing. When places aren't crowded, then fine, but there's something about the wall in front of people's faces in a cafe that gets kind of offputting.

What I really hate is people using laptops on subways. In a jostle-heavy environment, people with delicate machines watching their movies or doing their oh-so-important-work that can't wait til they are aboveground, are a nuisance.

Subject: Wifi

Of course private establishments are free to do as they please, but Wifi is essential in a coffeeshop for me. If the goal is not to be a coffeeshop, but rather to primarily be a restaurant or dessert bar, then I wouldn't really expect free Wifi. The threshold is generally defined by whether or not they have waiter service. If they have waiters, then it's not a coffeeshop to linger at. If it's counter service only, that's another story.

The ideal setting for a free Wifi space is Tea Lounge. Ozzie's is another type of place that would be better off with free Wifi. I never go to Ozzie's anymore because their Wifi costs money, otherwise I'd be there every day for coffee and breakfast. Tea Lounge is a haven for people all over Park Slope: a public place to work, enjoy hot beverages, and relax. They just need to get better coffee and better cakes.

tip of the day: to avoid wingedearth, hang out at Ozzie's.

don't say I never gave you people anything

Flexichick wrote: tip of the day: to avoid wingedearth, hang out at Ozzie's.

don't say I never gave you people anything

The best place to access free wi-fi is in the Brooklyn Public Library. There are 60 branches and no one will make you leave.

If you need an all day spot to plant your ass then go to the library.
I love Gorilla coffee shop, but in all my years here I've always had to take my coffee to go. All the tables taken by laptop users. I appreciate that they love their freelance clientele base, but I'd like, for once in my life, to enjoy one of their awesome drinks at a chair inside (with A/C)

DeeDee wrote: The best place to access free wi-fi is in the Brooklyn Public Library. There are 60 branches and no one will make you leave.

Have you been to the library lately? It is very LOUD. In fact, they are implementing a no-shush policy. AND the library can be packed with people job hunting.
I was at a coffee shop today in the Slope and in the two hours I was there 2 people came in. Again, it is a tricky balance between people not knowing when to get up and leave and give the table to another paying customer and making the freelance base happy IMO

no shushing? what? so, does that mean people can keep talking loudly and disturbing others and you can't tell them to STFU (I mean "shush")?

Subject: lol

good it's so pretentious. If you can sit all day in a cafe and "work" then work from home.

if you can make coffee at home than just stay home.

or wait, is there something to it other than the simple act.... hummmmmmm

Some people have trouble working at home or in libraries, where it's too quiet. Coffee shops provide an enjoyable atmosphere that can help sustain one's workflow without getting bored.

In fact, coffeeshops are so good, I'll be spending more time at Ozzie's. Maybe I'll run into my pal, Flexichick.

^you won't run into me at Ozzie's. I don't drink coffee and I lounge in my own backyard with wifi.