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A bloody end to summer: 24 shot in 24 hours

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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Thirty nine people shot since Sat morning!

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gunfire_interrupts_brooklyn_parade_ra4iBVeaKOdhB5vLKBucaJ#ixzz1X7BPMpW0

    Nope, that isn't a headline from 1996.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel

    WTF?

  • whyfi
    whyfi

    Boygabriel said:

    WTF?


  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Daily News tally of the weekend's gun violence is now complete:

    48 people shot since Saturday morning.

    9 people shot in 12 hours in Brooklyn alone.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/09/05/2011-09-05_nine_people_shot_in_12_hours_in_brooklyn_on_the_heels_of_shocking_24hour_weekend.html

    The Wall Street Journal counts 10 dead and 50 wounded

    http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424053111904537404576553181576923182-lMyQjAxMTAxMDAwNTEwNDUyWj.html?mod=e2tw

    I hope I am off topic, but I wish to state I really hated all of the crime in NYC in the 1990s and really don't want to go back.

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    I was reading a friend's facebook posting on the violence at the parade this weekend and someone who works for a local politician posted the factoid that there was one weekend in June where 33 people were shot in a 48 hr period throughout the city. The person she worked for tried to get some local news coverage, but it was subsumed by other things going on in the city. The consensus was that the lack of other news of Saturday was what allowed the story to take off this time, but that these numbers aren't that out of line with other weekends seen recently.

    There was also some talk about this being related to larger gang violence and that discussions have been quietly circulating in certain local political circles about a teen curfew similar to what has been instituted in Philly.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Despite Bloomberg's big plan, the city has yet to effectively engage young men at the highest risk of violence.

    ...so, yea, I expect short term fixes like curfews and incarceration to be expanded.

  • boygabriel
    boygabriel

    , I expect short term fixes like curfews and incarceration to be expanded.

    short term fixes, long term exacerbations.

    Bloomberg is like all the rest of them.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    One thing is for certain: We are not going to increase funding for social services, schools, police and prisons all at once.

    Some of the above will get increases, and others won't.

    I suspect we will choose a plan that is short term, and has no contract. If we are lucky, we will get something from T-mobile.

  • boygabriel
    boygabriel

    We are not going to increase funding for social services, schools, police and prisons all at once.

    I can cross one thing off that list, for sure.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    2012 and beyond version:

    We are going to cut overall government funding. We presently fund the following things: social services, schools, police and prisons.

    Which will we leave intact and/or increase?

  • armchair_warrior
    armchair_warrior

    I am disappointed by the lack of deaths on criminals. they should be more deaths not less.

  • boygabriel
    boygabriel

    whynot_31 said:

    2012 and beyond version:

    We are going to cut overall government funding. We presently fund the following things: social services, schools, police and prisons.

    Which will we leave intact and/or increase?

    Nothing is going to change.

    Less money for: social services & schools

    more money for: prisons

    The state of California spends more on prisons than it does on Universities.

    /allyouneedtoknow

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    The newspapers have a sudden thing for counting.

    They are now up to 100.

    They have made a map:

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202058781407149723466.0004ac45b36c6437bfe79&msa=0&ll=40.913513,-73.883915&spn=0.106504,0.264187

  • homeowner
    homeowner

    Okay, so I took a quick look at that map. If you look at the "Parade Area" as extending from Atlantic to the South, Empire to the North, GAP to the East and Howard to the west (and those are pretty generous boundaries):

    1) It appears that all weekend there were a total of 11 incidents (10 shots fired, 1 stabbing).

    2) Out of the 10 shots fired, one lists no victim.

    3) Three of those shootings occurred either Friday or Saturday

    4)Five of them occured after 5pm (the parade started shutting down at 4pm)

    5)Only two actually occured on the parade route (and one of those needs to be double checked as the text lists the location as East New York Avenue and Eastern Parkway, which would not be along the route at all)

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I have taken the liberty of responding to you in the Mr Mayor thread.