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Billiard Factory Lofts: block-long convert at Prospect Pl, Washington, St Marks

notsayin
notsayin
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights

This one snuck right under our radar, since there were no For Sale signs: the former Kaye Billiards plant at 363 St. Marks is about to be gut-renovated and converted to 44 units of what looks to be nice, upscale condos.

The 30,000 sq ft, two-story industrial building that runs the entire block from 363 Prospect Place to 344 St Marks, just west of Washington Ave (behind Minor Arcana, Sit & Wonder and Bearded Lady), sold to Manhattan developer Eli Hamway back in June 2011 for $4.2 million. The space served as offsite storage for the Interfaith Hospital group until a few weeks ago, and was built in 1925 as a public parking garage. But its colorful history is from 1963 to 1981, when it served as the HQ and plant for Irving Kaye Co. – a somewhat legendary manufacturer of coin-op billiard tables, bumper pool tables, foosball tables, and coin-op arcade games founded in Manhattan in 1946.

Our hearts sank when we heard a rumor the building was to be demolished – but were pleasantly surprised to find the project is an adaptive-reuse from S3 Architects, a boutique shop that (unlike certain other architects working nearby) appears to specialize in tasteful, reverential conversions that retain as much character as possible while turning out an upscale finished product. At least that’s our take after browsing S3’s project gallery.

Billiard Factory Lofts will enlarge the existing space by 11,000 sq ft and adds a third and partial fourth floor to accommodate three triplex townhouses, seven duplex lofts, a gym, media room, and 22 indoor bike parking spaces. Looks like possible entrances on both Prospect Place and St. Marks.

No word yet on whether there will be a billiards room with a vintage Kaye table (but c’mon…they’ve just gotta put one of these beauties in there!).


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  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    I suspect that this means that the days of new developments in PH being largely 800 sq ft condos are gone.

  • notsayin
    notsayin

    I'm hoping it also will bring some resolution to the three partially-built Prospect Place parcels adjacent or nearly adjacent to the Billiard Factory.

    Seems that the developer will need the adjacent properties to allow unobstructed lot-line windows (see below). Even if they somehow don't - I can't imagine buyers of $500K - $1MM apartments will put up with stepping out onto destroyed sidewalks and collapsing construction fences on either side of their main entrance for long.

    Note I'm assuming these are condos or co-ops. Quite possibly (in today's market) they're coming on as rentals - though duplexes, triplexes and amenities would suggest otherwise.

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Yes, those unfinished sites are an eyesore and rat haven.

    I'm not sure how quickly they will get completed, however.

    They strike me as having potentially small, not very nice, layouts that catered to first condo buyers. ....Buyers that are now in much shorter supply.

    Whereas units that are built to be either rentals or condos (such as those you picture), are generally more upscale. They are catering to buyers who have not been as effected by the present economy and lending rules.

    I'm fine with rentals. Those folks who want to live in Manhattan, but can't quite afford it, will spend money locally in our neighborhood.

  • notsayin
    notsayin

    In the past week or so this project finally began to visibly ramp-up, with sidewalk sheds and large work crews. Can't wait to see the results - and how these units price out.

  • ribbons
    ribbons

    View from above. There has been activity for several months now (a lot of hammering and activity up on the roof) but the scaffolding did just appear this past week.


  • nomad
    nomad

    I noticed the activity and was excited to see something finally going on at the end of this block. Was hoping it wasn't going to be a huge night club or something so this is good news.

  • notsayin
    notsayin

    Ribbons, thanks for the great birds-eye view. If that's taken from your own roof, you must have mixed emotions about the multi-floor addition to come?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31

    Those top floor units are going to command a premium as a result of being higher than many surrounding buildings.

  • notsayin
    notsayin

    Gutted building with the work lights left on tonight


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  • ribbons
    ribbons

    I will play. Updated view from above from this AM.


  • ltjbukem
    ltjbukem

    which broker will have the listings for these apartments?

  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Every time I think they are done with the concrete phase of this site, I see another concrete pump truck on site.

    Lots of structural work seems to still be happening.
  • ribbons
    ribbons
    They did construction on Monday, Memorial day starting at like 8:55 am.  I was not ready to be up yet so I was not pleased. I tried to look up if they have a permit but the site wasn't loading so I gave up. The other big construction site across the street is also annoying me because of the trailer blocking the sidewalk and part of the road. Cyclists need to be extra careful.  
  • notsayin
    notsayin
    So, just shy of 4 years after announcing the project and publishing renderings, apparently Billiard Factory Lofts is about to open as rentals. I heard it was nearly sold out already - and this Apartments.com listing says "no units available" - but I see no other press or listings. Anyone know if it's sold out - or just not officially available yet?
    http://www.apartments.com/billiard-factory-lofts-brooklyn-ny/k5xbk39/
  • notsayin
    notsayin
    Btw looks like Halstead is listing: http://billiardfactorylofts.com

    My hunch is these have not yet gone to market.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2016

    DOB site seems to report that construction is still ongoing.   They requested an amendment on some aspect of the job on 6/20/2016.

     http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByLocationServlet?requestid=1&allbin=3028557&allstrt=PROSPECT PLACE&allnumbhous=363 PLACE&allnumbhous=363

  • Hendi
    Hendi
    edited June 2016
    Rentals is a big surprise for this one given the demand for condos in the area right now and the difference in prices for sales versus rentals.  I think this is one of only a few new rental buildings in the area so I'd say its a welcome surprise, but still, interesting.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited August 2016
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    Now accepting applications, unclear when the move in date is.   http://billiardfactorylofts.com
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    For some reason, my Facebook feed has now been flooded with ads for this place: http://billiardfactorylofts.com/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Retargeting&utm_campaign=Facebook+Retargeting
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Now reportedly 95% leased.