Mugging last night at Sterling and Butler Place (03-22-07)

Just wanted to give everyone a heads up that a guy walking home around 8:30 pm was mugged last night by a group of about 5 teenagers at the intersection of Sterling and Butler Place. He was talking on his cell phone when the kids approached him, maced him, and kicked him in the head before taking his cell phone and wallet and running off. We live nearby, heard the commotion outside and found the victim lying on the sidewalk. Several people called the cops and an ambulance. The victim was ultimately OK but was taken to the emergency room to get checked out.

holy shit! mace?!

alafairnadia wrote: holy shit! mace?!

that's why i walk around with my helmet (see my pic on the left).
Jokes aside, i'm pretty sick of the petty violence. And glad the guy is okay. I wouldn't want to be the next mugger to get in his way. Payback's a mu-fucka.

glad he was okay. i hope the punks will get anally raped one day in jail. thats probably where they gonna end up one day.

i hate mace, i got attack with it once. not a pleasant feeling. i wish i could find those punks too. mines wasnt a mugging.

so fuckin' scary.

and, frankly, I've been getting a lot of shit this 'spring' (the last two days. this is beyond what I've experienced here before and in harlem, so I'm a bit confused. hopefully it's all due to funky weather and not an influx of horridly obnoxious teens.

alafairnadia wrote: so fuckin' scary.

and, frankly, I've been getting a lot of shit this 'spring' (the last two days. this is beyond what I've experienced here before and in harlem, so I'm a bit confused. hopefully it's all due to funky weather and not an influx of horridly obnoxious teens.

Alafairnadia, do you mean you're getting harrassed? That sucks. Are these people clearly your neighbors or random guys walking down the street.

it is for this very reason that that I ALWAYS view teenagers ascriminals until until proven otherwise. Lets hope the cops (or someone else) dish out some real punishment to these pieces of garbage

Whenever I see a group of teenagers approaching I'll be sure to cross the street. Fuggin' teenagers. There shouldn't be a drinking age so they could all get drunk and kill each other.

I agree. Teenagers are a pretty contemptible bunch. I think that the venerable Armchair is on to something. People who do things like this eventually wind up getting caught. That's what prisons are for. I hope that as the neighborhood continues to gentrify these lowlife types will get priced out and replaced by normal people.

And sure enough, someone will get on and trace these crimes to (a) a lack of rec centers or (b) the unfriendly attitude of yuppies and hipsters.

In the meantime, people, keep your wits about you. Tuck away the iPod and postpone the phone calls for the 5-10 minutes that it takes you to arrive at your destination.

Oiseau wrote: Whenever I see a group of teenagers approaching I'll be sure to cross the street. Fuggin' teenagers. There shouldn't be a drinking age so they could all get drunk and kill each other.

maybe we should send them all to a island n see who survives(Battle Royale http://imdb.com/title/tt0266308/ )!!

its like the short story the lottery.

My roomie got mugged last November (day before his b'day, actually), right on front of our building. 10:30 at night, people everywhere (Eastern Parkway), he was on his bike. They knocked him off of it, and (he thinks there were 3 or 4 of them) and proceeded to ask him for "the money." He had a bag of food on him, so the cops seem to think they thought he was a delivery guy. (I kinda disagree with this. Yeah, he had food and was on a bike, but he's like, a six foot tall white guy- not your typical delivery person). Anyhooey.
Roomie got hit in the head with something metallic. Still has the scar. They got nothin' but the food.
No bike, no money. Indian cuisine!
Oh, yeah, right-they were teenagers.

These things are happening precisely because these so-called "lowlifes" are getting priced out. Oh what? You thought they would welcome you as liberators? You think people will just give up the neighborhood without a fight? Right or wrong you can expect more of this to come. But fear not, the police are on your side!

Oiseau wrote: Whenever I see a group of teenagers approaching I'll be sure to cross the street. Fuggin' teenagers. There shouldn't be a drinking age so they could all get drunk and kill each other.

The problem is that our society no longer makes adequate use of their violent tendencies, not to mention valuable mugging skills. What I think might be most effective would be bring back the draft, lower the age to 16, and put them on patrol in Baghdad where they're clearly needed.

lp1378 wrote: These things are happening precisely because these so-called "lowlifes" are getting priced out. Oh what? You thought they would welcome you as liberators? You think people will just give up the neighborhood without a fight? Right or wrong you can expect more of this to come. But fear not, the police are on your side!

Is this tongue-in-cheek? If not, as far as an attempt to justify these muggings, it's one of the worst/biggest stretches I've ever seen. You really think that these kids are thinking about increases in rent that they're not paying? Bull.

lp1378 wrote: These things are happening precisely because these so-called "lowlifes" are getting priced out. Oh what? You thought they would welcome you as liberators? You think people will just give up the neighborhood without a fight? Right or wrong you can expect more of this to come. But fear not, the police are on your side!

a real liberator would shoot and rape and pillage the locale populace first!

other wise they are just another poor schmuck who got price out of his/her previous neighborhood. they are living where they can afford same as everyone else.

lp1378 wrote: These things are happening precisely because these so-called "lowlifes" are getting priced out. Oh what? You thought they would welcome you as liberators? You think people will just give up the neighborhood without a fight? Right or wrong you can expect more of this to come. But fear not, the police are on your side!

Oh, man. Here we go.

Gentrification flamewar #3,892! WOOT!

doublediamond wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]so fuckin' scary.

and, frankly, I've been getting a lot of shit this 'spring' (the last two days. this is beyond what I've experienced here before and in harlem, so I'm a bit confused. hopefully it's all due to funky weather and not an influx of horridly obnoxious teens.

Alafairnadia, do you mean you're getting harrassed? That sucks. Are these people clearly your neighbors or random guys walking down the street.

yeah. harassed. not mugged (poor guy! so scary. but I have the solution - a super seekrit cell phone accessory that makes it look very old school and undesirable). lots of "hey baby, can I get your number?" closely followed by a "bitch" or "fuck you" (the latter was actually this afternoon, just after a trip to FAIRWAY, with my hands full of grocery bags) when I just smile and say "sorry, I'm unavailable". like I said, I haven't had experiences like this ever in nyc. aggressive pursuit - weird, but I can deal with it. aggressive pursuit and then verbally violent reaction when refused - not ok. I'm worried about the next step, I guess.

alafairnadia wrote:

yeah. harassed. not mugged (poor guy! so scary. but I have the solution - a super seekrit cell phone accessory that makes it look very old school and undesirable). lots of "hey baby, can I get your number?" closely followed by a "bitch" or "fuck you" (the latter was actually this afternoon, just after a trip to FAIRWAY, with my hands full of grocery bags) when I just smile and say "sorry, I'm unavailable". like I said, I haven't had experiences like this ever in nyc. aggressive pursuit - weird, but I can deal with it. aggressive pursuit and then verbally violent reaction when refused - not ok. I'm worried about the next step, I guess.

That's really, really scary. I don't understand if guys think that's behavior that we respond to or if they understand that it's scary and intimidating.

alafairnadia wrote: [quote=doublediamond][quote=alafairnadia]so fuckin' scary.

and, frankly, I've been getting a lot of shit this 'spring' (the last two days. this is beyond what I've experienced here before and in harlem, so I'm a bit confused. hopefully it's all due to funky weather and not an influx of horridly obnoxious teens.

Alafairnadia, do you mean you're getting harrassed? That sucks. Are these people clearly your neighbors or random guys walking down the street.

yeah. harassed. not mugged (poor guy! so scary. but I have the solution - a super seekrit cell phone accessory that makes it look very old school and undesirable). lots of "hey baby, can I get your number?" closely followed by a "bitch" or "fuck you" (the latter was actually this afternoon, just after a trip to FAIRWAY, with my hands full of grocery bags) when I just smile and say "sorry, I'm unavailable". like I said, I haven't had experiences like this ever in nyc. aggressive pursuit - weird, but I can deal with it. aggressive pursuit and then verbally violent reaction when refused - not ok. I'm worried about the next step, I guess.

dang that sucks. what a loser that guy is.

well, like I keep thinking. the OP describes a horrid event to someone who is, while not responsible for his assault, someone who is otherwise occupied while walking home. and, despite my (to appropriate the thread) my bravado walking three steps from car to door post-grocery shopping, which is otherwise occupied from paying attention to the universe, I got harassed. so there is some shit up. I'm hoping, as I said above, that it's spring to blame. I love seasonal blame.

doublediamond wrote:
That's really, really scary. I don't understand if guys think that's behavior that we respond to or if they understand that it's scary and intimidating.

I think this rhetorical question deserves a rhetorical answer. Let's start by saying "some guys" rather than implying all guys, because such behavior is equally perplexing to the majority. The last time I couldn't avoid knowing such people was a few dickheads in school/college. They didn't have much else going for them, and would harass girls outside of hours and guys during hours. I think it was about power, intimidation, and pecking order within their group, not about getting a response from the target. To the extent that I've heard what happened to them since, it's mostly prison, early grave, unemployed deadbeat, etc.

doctorj wrote: [quote=doublediamond]
That's really, really scary. I don't understand if guys think that's behavior that we respond to or if they understand that it's scary and intimidating.

I think this rhetorical question deserves a rhetorical answer. Let's start by saying "some guys" rather than implying all guys, because such behavior is equally perplexing to the majority. The last time I couldn't avoid knowing such people was a few dickheads in school/college. They didn't have much else going for them, and would harass girls outside of hours and guys during hours. I think it was about power, intimidation, and pecking order within their group, not about getting a response from the target. To the extent that I've heard what happened to them since, it's mostly prison, early grave, unemployed deadbeat, etc.

At least four times I began a reply to 2xdiamond's post, and each time I had to delete it because of excessive sarcasm. I knew there was someone out there with greater tact.

lp1378 wrote: These things are happening precisely because these so-called "lowlifes" are getting priced out. Oh what? You thought they would welcome you as liberators? You think people will just give up the neighborhood without a fight? Right or wrong you can expect more of this to come. But fear not, the police are on your side!

I'm sorry but the people doing shit like this were doing it before they started getting priced out. When I was a teenager I hung out in some pretty grimy neighborhoods (I was a bad kid). Shit like that happened all the time. I sure hope you were being facetious.

Haha, if one of those little kids tries to mug me he better not be from this hood, 'cuz I won't rest until ...

The question then becomes - what kind of response do we ask and demand from our fine friends at the precinct? And what kind of response actually shows up?

Nothing ever changes for the better.