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rogers_sterling
rogers_sterling
edited September 2014 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens
Ok folks, I have been out of the loop on the election so far. Anyone care to advocate for any state or local candidates? I know about the governor race, so mostly senate, assembly, NYC. I'm particularly interested in our local Council race.

Thanks!

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  • pragmaticguy
    pragmaticguy
    I heard a report on the CBS radio this morning that she's appealing to the faction of the Democratic party that feels that Cuomo is too moderate. So in effect, she wants to give away more of the taxpayers money. I always thought being a moderate was a good thing.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Yes, she is a favorite of the Working Families Party and seems to have devoted much of her career toward controlling big corporations and monopolies:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zephyr_Teachout

    While I am not in agreement with some of her politics, she might be able to take some of the arrogance out of Cuomo.

    At present, he gets to say and do whatever he wants because the rest of Albany is in such a state of disarray.
  • rogers_sterling
    rogers_sterling
    And her name is great too!
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Given her politics, I would have had her last name be Teachin, not Teachout.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach-in

    ...but it is close enough.
  • pragmaticguy
    pragmaticguy
    Nothing wrong with controlling monopolies I think we're all for that. Don't particularly care for ultra-liberals who are willing to give away the farm. As Spock used to say, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one" but when both sides are somewhat equal then moderation must be in play.
  • bklyn50
    bklyn50
    @pragmaticguy
        Your assertion that candidate Teachout wants to "give away" the taxpayers money doesn't
    accurately describe her opposition to Gov. Cuomo or what "moderation" is.
        On Sunday Sept. 7, the host of "Meet the Press" had three mayors from three
    different regions speak about the need to work past partisan differences to get
    the needs of their constituents met. The Republican mayor from a city in Oklahoma asked
    for and got a 1% increase in local taxes to rebuild the infrastructure of his
    city. Who Knew! A conservative using an increase in taxes to serve the people.
    The two other mayors, one an Independent, and the other a Democrat, agreed that that
    was a proper use of revenue, and furthermore, working for the common good of all
    the persons they vowed to serve.
        Zephyr Teachout is running against Gov. Cuomo because he is acting for the
    benefit of the Republican state senate. There is no Governor in any "red" state
    that is not using his majority position to express the will of the people, as it
    was presented at the ballot box.
        Your assumption that Prof. Teachout wants to "give away" taxpayers money smacks of
    jingoism; you appear to want to label policy in a pejorative manner, rather than
    see any possible good that the policy could have for the greater public good. Moderation
    is defined as "professing or characterized by political or social beliefs that are not
    extreme"; "avoiding extremes of behavior or expression".

    Government, functioning well functions equally on three levels:
      1, Politics
      2. Policy
      3. Process
    Maybe Gov. Cuomo will see that being elected by a Democratic majority needs to be
    expressed by having his politics, policies, and process serve the needs of all,
    while expressing the wishes of his predominantly Democratic base.
       
  • pragmaticguy
    pragmaticguy
    Personally, I think Cuomo is doing a fine job. I will probably vote for him. As for his Democrat majority, that's more of a downstate thing. I'm pretty sure that the further upstate you get, the more Republican it becomes. I didn't label anyone's policy in a pejorative manner. And I'm saying that Democrats usually feel that the bigger the government the better off we are. Not always true, there's a time and place for everything.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    I doubt Ms Teachout is counting on many votes from upstate. She seems to be spending her time in sympathetic Brooklyn and Manhattan.
  • bklyn50
    bklyn50
    More than 41% of the population of the state resides in NYC.
    Just saying.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    About a 100% of NYS resides in NYS, but Albany still seems quite out of control.

    Just saying.
  • bklyn50
    bklyn50
    @whynot_31
        Where would you start at regaining control?


    Personally, I'm for Preet Bharara.

     Moreland commission didn't quite cut it. And I voted for Cuomo the last time, on the promise that he would (start) work to TRULY clean up corruption in government.

    But I ask again, where would you start to regain control?
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    a. You are supposed to give someone time to answer before you ask the question again.

    b. To answer your question, I have liked both Bloomberg and DeBlasio's efforts. They seem to understand that Albany may be beyond repair during their terms, and are willing to give Albany things it wants in exchange for city control over the schools (good job, Bloomberg), and the streets (good job DeBlasio).

    One does not successfully "fix" or "get control" over Albany. One either starves it or stays away from it.
  • newguy88
    newguy88
    So Coumo won by a 67.1% to 34.7% split according to Politico. In Brooklyn he won by a 65.8% to 30.6% Spilt. Interestingly enough he won Manhatta by about 12%. http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/governor/new-york/#.VA_Lz_lr4eU I guess we can look forward to four more years of corruption and transit funds raiding. That's assuming of course he wins. 

    By the way turn out was reportedly very poor in Brooklyn today. I can confirm that I was the only person voting at voting center in the Friends of Crown Heights daycare center at four this afternoon.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    If I was the Republican Party, Cuomo wouldn't annoy me, and I wouldn't spend a lot of money to try to defeat him.

    Re the corruption in Albany: It seems to thrive whichever party is in control.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Statewide, less than 10% of the registered Democrats voted.

    http://www.gothamgazette.com/index.php/opinion/5310-solving-our-voter-turnout-crisis-max

  • newguy88
    newguy88
    Maybe we get the politicians we deserve? 
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Maybe we correctly acknowledge that they are irrelevant.
  • mcpoet
    mcpoet
    I will say that if you want your votes to truly matter in NY you need to vote in the primaries.  Otherwise, your decision to vote will be primarily symbolic (i.e. the Democrat is generally going to win so the real election is the primary).
  • southeast
    southeast
    I will say that if you want your votes to truly matter in NY you need to vote in the primaries.  Otherwise, your decision to vote will be primarily symbolic (i.e. the Democrat is generally going to win so the real election is the primary).
    This is why even people leaning Republican/Conservative are registered Democrats if they live in NY.