The Stroller Manifesto

Jamesondean

If you have children and fold your stroller on the subway, kudos to you. Can you imagine holding a stroller and a baby walking on the wet platform today?

Best of luck on your subway travels.

guest wrote: Jamesondean

If you have children and fold your stroller on the subway, kudos to you. Can you imagine holding a stroller and a baby walking on the wet platform today?

Best of luck on your subway travels.

Yeah, no problem. Everyone is special, and the rules just don't apply to them. We're all entitled!

From now on, I'm going to stand in the subway train car doors and not move for anyone, just because I'm special. Woohoo!

For safety reasons my stroller is equiped with spring loaded blades in the wheel hubs that can be operated by either me or my child. Also, there's the machine gun concealed in the front, and a set of collapsible naginatas strapped to the sides.





Those who get the reference win a biscuit.

Lone Wolf and Cub?

nybt wrote: Lone Wolf and Cub?

Or the American version Shogun Assassin.

um, yeah.

kids in bars=fine if they're normal, nice, and quiet. or cute. but after a certain point, put the kid to bed!

strollers on subways=somehow having a kid in a stroller in the subway seems like a deathwish. they ban skateboarding and rollerblading in the cars, for obvious reasons--a kid falling down is far better than a stroller flying down the car (and into a pole). Also: I've seen plenty of people lugging kids and strollers and bags and yoga mats and yippy dogs in the subway--it's clearly not fun, but, hey, if you want fun, take a cab.

(disclaimer to assorted child-rearing guests: I am young. I don't have children.) I don't understand the ridiculous proportion of whiny parents. Having a kid is work, but that doesn't mean that you have the right to inconvenience everyone just because you're embittered/tired/or whatever. I mean, seriously, the amount of parent-whining on the parts of guests on these boards blows my mind.

Maybe I'm a total jerk (could very well be), but I don't think so....

Also: any kid who spends time in bars is going to be the most social and well-adjusted person ever. Seriously.

Subject: manifesto

This isn't Ireland...keep your kids at home.

I go to the bar to get away from kids...

Subject: Re: manifesto

tappyocka wrote: This isn't Ireland...keep your kids at home.

I go to the bar to get away from kids...

wow, what's your stereotypical beef with the Irish?

wow,it is just amazing that 'the breeders' expect bars to be family nights
with their little kids.Micky D's bars are not.It is a place for adults to be adults.A place for singles too.If bars become a places for babies and soccer moms-I'm staying home.Or going to the Manhattan bars.

Lol now parents who are too cheap for a babysitter want rights to take their crying,pooping baby with them!I never heard of such a thing before.When I was a kid,my parents wouldnt even think of taking me to a bar.

Steve74 wrote: wow,it is just amazing that 'the breeders' expect bars to be family nights
with their little kids.Micky D's bars are not.It is a place for adults to be adults.A place for singles too.If bars become a places for babies and soccer moms-I'm staying home.Or going to the Manhattan bars.

Lol now parents who are too cheap for a babysitter want rights to take their crying,pooping baby with them!I never heard of such a thing before.When I was a kid,my parents wouldnt even think of taking me to a bar.

My three year old know the difference between Paulliac and Graves on smell alone. I am the son of a brewery manager and grew up around beer and the neighborhood bar. Kids can go to bars if they 1. Know how to act and 2. have parents who know how to act. 'Nuff said.

Your argument is airtight. Game over.

Steve74 wrote: wow,it is just amazing that 'the breeders' expect bars to be family nights
with their little kids.Micky D's bars are not.It is a place for adults to be adults.A place for singles too.If bars become a places for babies and soccer moms-I'm staying home.Or going to the Manhattan bars.

Lol now parents who are too cheap for a babysitter want rights to take their crying,pooping baby with them!I never heard of such a thing before.When I was a kid,my parents wouldnt even think of taking me to a bar.

the manifesto was picked up by the post: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/59922.htm

I have a two month old, and if me or my wife ever started taking her @ any age to a bar part 5PM

we've got a problem

before 4 or 5, when bars aren't really 'bars', they can be a good meeting place tho

I just read the actual Manifesto. No wonder parents are having such a shit fit; even though I agree with the basic sentiment, the guy's tone is autocratic. And this guy is a writer?! He should consider his audience if he wants results.

I think he also needs to pick his battles. Waging a war against parents and children in Park Slope, of all places, is like mobilizing an effort to kick the gay community out of Chelsea and the West Village.

Also, the owners of these bars need to set clear rules and make their employees stick by it. Given what Patio's co-owner had to say in the article, Heidel's Manifesto borders on act of insubordination.

And parents definitely need to know where to draw the line when it comes to bringing a child into a bar safely and without undue inconvenience to the other patrons.

JamesOnDean wrote: I just read the actual Manifesto. No wonder parents are having such a shit fit; even though I agree with the basic sentiment, the guy's tone is autocratic. And this guy is a writer?! He should consider his audience if he wants results.

Let 'em in! Most people usually get less uptight when liquored up and most people who have problems with kids are pretty uptight -- if you're drunk you won't mind them as much!