AND a new wine shop

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2008/08/streetlevel_a_n_2.php

now this I did NOT know about. Thanks!

Yay-i was beyond thrilled to see this place open right around the corner from my house! Wow, meat and wine right down the block from me, i couldn't be happier!

and, they are open for business. though their store hours say they will be closing at 8 pm every night which i think is early for a wine shop-I am hoping those are only summer hours.

"though their store hours say they will be closing at 8 pm every night which i think is early for a wine shop-I am hoping those are only summer hours."


sounds more like park slope hours to me.

sucks that so much is closed by the time i get home from work.

I am thinking they chose 8 pm to close because the other stores on that strip close at 8 pm. but, wine and liquor shops usually stay open late, especially I would think, one right next to a bar.

Is it wine from Catalonia? They can't sell food and wine together in NY, I have to investigate.

babel wrote: Is it wine from Catalonia? They can't sell food and wine together in NY, I have to investigate.

Huh? Investigate what?

Subject: opening soon

I passed by on Wendsday on the way to Gate and the store was all ready to open, though not yet, some people (owners?) were drinking wines inside.
The store looked beautiful.

LongTimeSloper wrote: [quote=babel]Is it wine from Catalonia? They can't sell food and wine together in NY, I have to investigate.

Huh? Investigate what?
I'm guessing selling wine and food together for off-premises use, which I believe is still illegal under NYS law.

I've been here three and a half years out of California, and that law still blows my mind.

daver wrote: [quote=LongTimeSloper][quote=babel]Is it wine from Catalonia? They can't sell food and wine together in NY, I have to investigate.

Huh? Investigate what?
I'm guessing selling wine and food together for off-premises use, which I believe is still illegal under NYS law.

Well, they aren't selling food and wine together-the wine shop sells wine period. LOL I guess they were confused by my comment saying how thrilled I am that there will be meat (the butcher shop moving near 3rd Street) and the new wine shop.

BTW, i went to the wine shop tonight-not a bad selection, wide variety of prices and the people were very nice to me even though I came in with rather loud children. i bought 2 bottles of wine and will definitely be going back.

best two wine stores - Slope Cellars and Shawn's

Lovely store and friendly owners. We went in a couple of nights ago - they have an interesting selection; one of the owners told me they are focusing on smaller vintners, but they said to let them know if there was anything special they'd like to stock. I think this is a great addition to Fifth Avenue - it's far enough away from Red White & Bubbly and so much better than yet another restaurant.

Little Red Menace, I would guess that the bizarre proscription against selling meat and wine in the same store was lobbied for by wine/liquor shops, to protect them against possible competition from supermarkets.

I like big noise full body. Well, I LOVE Trader Joe's Wine shop... but talking local, big noise for me.

Trader Joes and Red, White, Bubbly AND Big Nose AND Slope Cellars sell a lot of industrial garbage, more akin to Coca-cola than real wine. If you walk into a wine store and you Yellow Tail or Carlos Rossi or a 'cheap wine' section with wines that don't claim a vinyard site or an actual human involvement (estate bottled, Azienda Agricola, bottled at Domaine...etc..) it should discredit them right away. Do you know how they make cheap wine? Oak chips, saw mill waste, planting vines in a high density, reverse osmosis, adding acids, adding sugars, industrial yeasts...why would you pay for crap, even if it is a few dollars cheaper.....enough said SIP is good

I don't buy Yellowtail and never will, but to say just because a wine store might carry it amongst tons of other wines discredits the store is ridiculous.

Awesome, we were in desperate need of a wine store here in Park Slope.

If a wine store carries junk wine then that means they just want your money. There are plenty of wine stores out there. You need to be able to trust the guy selling wine. Yellowtail, Mondavi, Coppola, Screaming Eagle and Gaja are not wine. They are an alchohol delivery systems to get drunk with. Why not save your money and kidneys and drink whiskey. Wine is food and it is ok to drink white and rose wine with lighter dishes. It does not mean you are a girl.

Again, as i said, i do not buy any of those wines. But, if a wine store sells them, I believe it is just because some people actually like them and ask for them. I have heard people say they really like yellowtail, which personally i cannot understand. once again, i think a wine store selling those wines doesn't mean they are a terrible wine store.

I appreciate a wine store that sniffs out inexpensive wine that is good, not just cheap.
Thx for the note on the new place.

What's wrong with screw tops on wine??

I think stocking "accessible" wines is a smart business decision. A lot of stores that are able to carry special/limited production wines would have a hard time staying in business if they didn't have carry the more mass-market wines. I am a beer guy, but don't mind a glass of wine once in awhile. That being said, it doesn't matter to me if the wine I drink has a wine-snob stamp of approval. The guys at Full Body are cool when I go in there for a bottle to take to a party and they don't try to get me to buy some limited edition, exclusive, expensive bottle of wine when I tell them what I like.

Bottom line is, economically, you generally need some volume to subsidize the stuff that has a more specialized appeal. You gotta pay the rent somehow!

absolutely nothing is wrong with screw tops.

babel, are you drinking and typing?

Nothing wrong with screwcaps, great for certain wines. Corks are a 500 year old technology. The jury is still out on long term ageing. Check out what the Germans are doing with their glass closers, very elegant and sexy. Yes I was drinking and typing. Had a grilled duck breast with a $10 Chinon that is bio-dynamic and made by a person. Bought it at Chambers Street Wines. Great shop in the city.

Now I have to go and google Germans and glass closers, LOL

google vino-lok

I kind of agree about the Yellow Tail type wines, but honestly, some people cannot tell the difference between that and a nice Burgundy, and there's nowhere else close to Slope Cellars that sells it, so I think it is good business practice for them to stock it. But if you talk to the people who work there, they will always point you towards some interesting small wine rather than mass produced swill, no matter the price.

Yellow Tail will work for me in a pinch.....like, when my only option is the liquor store on my block. CH doesn't have a nice wine shop, so if I just want to have a glass with dinner and don't already have something at home, then that's what I do.

This is just to let some people gain an "understanding" as to the various motives and reasons for purchasing wine. Also, coming from Sonoma County, I do appreciate a fine wine when I can get it....and it's hard to get even a decent California wine in this state without over paying for it.

Sorry, there is no decent California wine. It is fine I guess if someone settles for Yellow Tail when they need to wash down their Big Mac while listening to Katy Pery's "I Kissed a Girl" song and watching "So You Think You Can Dance".

Wow, not one good wine comes from California-snob much?

Seriously, that's horses%#t. That might have been true, say, forty years ago, but, you know, stuff happened since then.