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jeffrey
jeffrey
edited November -1 in The Lounge / Random Stuff
With all of...

- the angry froth and foment of late
- McCain's inability to hide contempt for Obama, unable to even look at him during last debate
- the mud coming out from both sides down the home stretch here
- especially as McCain's campaign reaches new levels of desperation, with no other cards to play but bad ones

...I am beginning to think we may finally get our utterly damning, Col.-Jessup-on-the-stand moment from McCain tonight.





One can only HOPETM ...

:lol:
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  • livetotravel
    livetotravel
    I'm all a-Twitter!

    I think it would be cool if Obama asked McCain about this...
    http://didntaskme.blogspot.com/2008/10/file-under-dirty-tricks-voter.html
  • dapearl9
    dapearl9
    Yahoo suggests an uncomfortable, awkward time:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20081007/pl_bloomberg/aeqhidejpots

    We can only hope this will be true.
  • boygabriel
    boygabriel
    Hope McCain gets asked about this:

    McCain tied to U.S. Council for World Freedom: Nazi collaborators and death squads in Central America.

    By John Amato Tuesday Oct 07, 2008 9:00am

    As Sean Hannity, Rick Davis and John McCain step up their personal attacks on Barack Obama, a funny thing happened on the way to the smear fest. It seems John McCain has some prior associations he would rather not have revealed. I mean real ones. Check out this group.
    GOP presidential nominee John McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair.

    The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.


    The council's founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.
    Oh, my. Playing the Guilt by Association Game doesn't seem to be a good idea for McCain with friends like those.

    Paul Begala tried to warn him on Meet the Press:

    MR. BEGALA: Well, no. Obama was—he was asked about this in a debate in a primaries with Hillary Clinton sitting there; George Stephanopoulos of ABC asked him about it. He answered it. He pointed out that the despicable acts this guy committed were committed when, apparently, Barack Obama was eight years old. And, and I think Governor Palin here is making a strategic mistake. This guilt by association path is going to be trouble ultimately for the McCain campaign. You know, you can go back—I’ve written a book about McCain. I had a dozen researchers go through him. I didn’t even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization. It was the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran-Contra scandal. It was an ultraconservative right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981, when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League, the parent organization, which ADL said, “has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and Anti-Semites.” Now, that’s not John McCain. I don’t think he is that. But, but, you know, the problem is that a lot of people know John McCain’s record better than Governor Palin, and he does not want to play guilt by association or this thing could blow up in his face.
    This excuse doesn't seem to fly either.

    The McCain campaign, in a statement to Politico, defended the efforts of the council. Brian Rogers, a spokesman, said that the Senator "disassociated himself" from the group "when questions were raised about its activities, but that in no way diminishes his leadership role in ensuring that the forces of democracy and freedom prevailed in Central America."

    But Singlaub "does not recall any McCain resignation in 1984 or May 1986," the Associated Press reported early Tuesday, "nor does Joyce Downey, who oversaw the group's day-to-day activities."
    Tags: Barack Obama, John McCain Campaign 2008 Presidential Election, Smears
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    MOD
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    I fear for my liver, and my TV. I may freekout if I see McCain's weird face boils.
  • bkwindsymphony
    bkwindsymphony
    Did McCain just say that he bets we've never heard of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac before this crisis? Jackass!
  • MOD
    MOD
    Flexichick wrote: Did McCain just say that he bets we've never heard of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac before this crisis? Jackass!
    well, not in Alaska :P
  • sine
    sine
    Yay, Mamacita! I thought I was going to have to yell on this thread all by my lonesome.
  • mffbklyn
    mffbklyn
    I think Obama scored some points by pointing out that McCain was saying the economy was in good shape just a few weeks ago and was consistently in favor of deregulation.

    When McCain says "tax cuts for everyone" it makes me crazy. Obama is cutting taxes for everybody but the rich, and I think that's a good message.
  • briaa18
    briaa18
    Did McCain just say he stopped $6.8B in defense spending and then recommend a freeze on spending for only 3 things, one of those being defense spending?

    Or was that my wine confusing me??
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    did mccain just promise us healthcare? that's what i heard.
  • youknoit
    youknoit
    there's a lady in the back in blue who wants to get naked with Obama.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    totally.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    with all his wife's money, why can't mccain get a suit that fits?
  • altonero
    altonero
    sweet tea wrote: with all his wife's money, why can't mccain get a suit that fits?

    you know Michelle wouldn't let Barack go out like that.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    serious lady in red with black necklace is serious.
  • bailey
    bailey
    McCain looks like he's trying not to fart.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    you and me, flexi, live-bitching the debate.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    holy old man laugh, batman!
  • heidi.heilig
    heidi.heilig
    he's right in that he's not too poplular sometimes.
  • skinmechanic
    skinmechanic
    watch the monitor at the bottom (on CNN). Whenever McCain speaks, the approval starts to dip
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    ...times like now.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    what was that little breakdown on attacking obama for thinking nuclear power should be "safe* or something like that"?


    *namby-pamby liberal. you'll take your six arms and LIKE them.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    oh snap. can't run against congress when you've been there since dirt was young.
  • sarahprny
    sarahprny
    This is the 3rd time I've caught McCain looking at his notes. Haven't seen Obama do that yet. McCain looks like he's scrambling.
  • jaha127
    jaha127
    u are two funny... which side is the woman in blue?

    u two should tape ur commentary
  • brooklynlyceum
    brooklynlyceum
    the woman in blue is in the back row . She has a guy with a mustache to her left and a black lady with a black/white top to her right
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    join in, jaha. plenty of cheap shots here for anybody.


    uh, oh -- manhattan project? sounds like elite east coast liberals.
  • jaha127
    jaha127
    when he first entered the debate... he was scribbling away...
    like he was writing some last minute notes...
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    i'm john mccain and i hate goodies!
  • carribeanrose17
    carribeanrose17
    ya know who is fucking up this debate? McCain!

    he keeps changing his tone so that it's like he's telling us a little secret. Blech