Hill may get Secretary of State gig?

whynot_31 wrote: I don't like her politics, but she knows her stuff.

No, she doesn't. She's caught in a binary Cold War mindset and she hasn't made significant progress in pretty much any major region or conflict.

I think the fact that Cheney and Rumsfeld were so crass, ruthless and ideologically misguided, it makes Rice look halfway competent by comparison.

But in my (not) humble foreign policy opinion, she's as worthless as any of the rest of them.

whynot_31 wrote: Speaking of Sec of State: I admire Rice for her work.

What has she achieved that you admire?

Yea I wonder about Rice. I regard Powell as a pretty decent guy, but this administration made him look like an idiot. I wonder if she's in the same position and actually better than she seems? I haven't followed her enough to really have an opinion.

Boygabriel wrote:

[quote=whynot_31]Speaking of Sec of State: I admire Rice for her work.

What has she achieved that you admire?

I think admire anyone who can tolerate a boss and job until they get what they need from it, be it retirement, a new job, or what have you.

Let's just say I would have stopped showing up to work a long time ago if I was her, but somehow she hung in there, despite having an idiot for a boss.

No doubt, some will say I like her because she is a sell out. ...I just define it differently. As the first af-am woman in such a high position, she broke a lot of ground, and was isolated from a lot of groups (feminist women, african americans, etc) for her politics, yet kept showing up for work.

She is a genuine conservative (George can't be blamed for making her do things she didn't believe in) and I don't like her politics, but that's a different issue.

Boygabriel wrote:

[quote=whynot_31]Speaking of Sec of State: I admire Rice for her work.

What has she achieved that you admire?

I think admire anyone who can tolerate a boss and job until they get what they need from it, be it retirement, a new job, or what have you.

Let's just say I would have stopped showing up to work a long time ago if I was her, but somehow she hung in there, despite having an idiot for a boss.

No doubt, some will say I like her because she is a sell out. ...I just define it differently. As the first af-am woman in such a high position, she broke a lot of ground, and was isolated from a lot of groups (feminist women, african americans, etc) for her politics, yet kept showing up for work.

She is a genuine conservative (George can't be blamed for making her do things she didn't believe in) and I don't like her politics, but that's a different issue.

That's true. I admire how far she's made it in a world set against women and minorities.

But in terms of actual job performance, she's been near worthless.

That's true. I admire how far she's made it in a world set against women and minorities.

But in terms of actual job performance, she's been near worthless.