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mr. met wrote: so are we now saying that it is a matter of opinion whether mexican drug cartels traffick significant amounts of marijuana to the united states? this is in dispute?

Only saying that, in the end, a person has the freedom to believe whatever they want, all other factors aside.

Less horses flagellated that way.

BrooklynBoyyee wrote: I hope you understand that this debate is about murder, not by alcohol, not by marijuana, but by guns, used by Mexican drug cartels. I'm not promoting that legal alcohol is not worse than illegal pot. I'm suggesting that money spent on pot funds drug operations that utilize your twenty or fifty or whatever dollars into purchasing firearms as a means of asserting power and influence in the Mexican drug trade.

The drug cartels get much greater benefit from the portion of MerdithB's taxes that fund the "War on Drugs" than from what he spends on a dime bag.

mr. met wrote: so are we now saying that it is a matter of opinion whether mexican drug cartels traffick significant amounts of marijuana to the united states? this is in dispute?

No dispute.
There are thousands of trucks like this rolling around the US all day everyday.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-temecula-marijuana-bust,0,5139865.story

i don't get it.
the pot that people buy in nyc comes primarily from mexico?
what about upstate new york? vermont? canada? you know... places that are infinitely closer. it just doesn't make sense to me.

OH NO! ACTUAL PROOF! DENY MEREDITH! DENY IT!

There are thousands of trucks like this rolling around the US all day everyday.

the whole operation and arrest was probably arranged by the DEA

:roll:

mr. met wrote: so are we now saying that it is a matter of opinion whether mexican drug cartels traffick significant amounts of marijuana to the united states? this is in dispute?

in the southern US, sure. but here? really?

the pot that people buy in nyc comes primarily from mexico?

no. no one said that.

in the southern US, sure. but here? really?

i'm sure there's some mexican weed in NY, but probably not the majority of it, no.

BrooklynBoyyee wrote: OH NO! ACTUAL PROOF! DENY MEREDITH! DENY IT!

This is totally ridiculous. The only proof that anyone has is from the DOJ. Believe that shit if you want.

Like I stated, no dealer or grower is going to admit to being a dealer or grower. Getting an actual fact is going to be tough here.

One plant of marijuana can produce 3/4 - 1 lb of weed. You can grow six plants in a small closet. Why anyone would buy Mexican weed is beyond me. Does it happen? Sure. Heck, people still drink PBR. But are the Mexican drug cartels a MAJOR player in the marijuana business? I seriously doubt it based on knowing quite a few growers here in the USA and the amount of marijuana they produce.

why would weed necessarily be any more locally grown than what's on offer at the supermarket? surely market forces -- and climate and cost of labor and economies of scale -- apply here as much as they apply to the produce section.

BrooklynBoyyee, you left out the getriconfrontational redirect. (your n00b is showing.)

sweet tea wrote: why would weed necessarily be any more locally grown than what's on offer at the supermarket? surely market forces -- and climate and cost of labor and economies of scale -- apply here as much as they apply to the produce section.

Because one tomato plant = maybe $50 in tomatoes, one marijuana plant = $3000 - $5000 in weed all in the same amount of space.

I seriously doubt it based on knowing quite a few growers here in the USA and teh amount of marijuana they produce.

anecdotal evidence FTW!

mr. met wrote: anecdotal evidence FTW!

So fucking what? We're talking about something in which there is no evidence except by the DOJ?

Get it? I doubt it.

The only proof that anyone has is from the DOJ. Believe that shit if you want.

what about these links people are posting?

like the last one, with 25,000 pounds of weed in a 18-wheeler? DOJ set it up?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/us/02pot.html?pagewanted=all

more evidence

that last article is pretty interesting, actually. if you believe the LIES, that is.

Let's all bow down the great Mr. Met.

He is so right always. He is right on this issue. He is right on every issue. He can search Google and provide links. He is a Godsend to this forum and to Brooklyn itself.

Thank you Mr. Met. You are just so wonderful I do not know how I can ever think of being as smart and knowledgeable as you are.

Sorry, but I just asked the three dealers I get my weed from and they said theirs in grown in Florida and New York state so I believe that. And since most of the people I know do not smoke Mexican schwag, (which apparently you have a fondness for) I will believe what I want despite your whining and your links.

MeredithB wrote: One plant of marijuana can produce 3/4 - 1 lb of weed. You can grow six plants in a small closet.

Ahh...so THAT's what whynot's up to these days...
http://brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52713

It all makes sense now.

He can search Google and provide links.

it's a fun, easy way to find something known as "valuable information"

Sorry, but I just asked the three dealers I get my weed from

well that settles that!

And since most of the people I know do not smoke Mexican schwag, (which apparently you have a fondness for)

ouch!

Here's a link for you: Link

$35,803,591,000 total production of marijuana in the USA, by the USA.

6.6 million cannabis plants grown mostly by Mexican cartels in 2007 (according to the NYT link), 56.4 million plants grown in the USA by the USA in 2006 (I'm sure there were more in 2007)

Can't we all just smoke a fatty and agree that (to steal from Gordon Gekko) "weed is good"?

nah.....carry on

MeredithB wrote: Here's a link for you: Link

$35,803,591,000 total production of marijuana in the USA, by the USA.

6.6 million cannabis plants grown mostly by Mexican cartels in 2007 (according to the NYT link), 56.4 million plants grown in the USA by the USA in 2006 (I'm sure there were more in 2007)

I was just checking out that link. Why does New York produce so much hay?

"weed is good"? - epic win

Carnivore wrote: I was just checking out that link. Why does New York produce so much hay?

They grow it where the horses are and less risk during transportation. (maybe the Mexican drug cartels could learn a think or two)

6.6 million cannabis plants grown mostly by Mexican cartels in 2007 (according to the NYT link), 56.4 million plants grown in the USA by the USA in 2006 (I'm sure there were more in 2007)

okay, reading comprehension helps here.

that report is about the amount of weed GROWN in the country, not how much weed connected to Mexican cartels that is sold inside the the United States.

so, that just says what Mexican cartels have grown on U.S. soil. do you think they probably grew more on their own soil and then transported it here?

Hatemail wrote: "weed is good"? - epic win

thank you. thankyouverymuch

mr. met wrote: okay, reading comprehension helps here.

Actually, reasonable assumption based on the facts helps here too.

Me and my cat just smoked a spliff.
We're going to watch The Big Lebowski now.
Peace out Brooklynian. Sweet thread!