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Anything to be done about parking hogs?

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  • fafner
    fafner
    Just part a vepaa or two in front of the truck, problem solved.
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    modsquad wrote: As defined:
    Driveway. Every entrance or exit authorized pursuant to applicable law and used by vehicular traffic to or from lands or buildings abutting a roadway.
    Iron railing with gate looks movable and a legal Vehicle as defined:
    Vehicle. Every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except devices moved by human power or used exclusively upon stationary rails or tracks.
    You could fit several motorcycles in there.


    The original approval of the garage in 1925 by default gave the owner a legal driveway. Which, I think, he has been careful not to compromise.
    the legality of him parking in that manner is questionable at best.

    (2) Driveways. In front of a public or private driveway, except that it shall be
    permissible for the owner, lessor or lessee of the lot accessed by a private
    driveway to park a passenger vehicle registered to him/her at that address in
    front of such driveway, provided that such lot does not contain more than two
    dwelling units and further provided that such parking does not violate any other
    provision of the Vehicle and Traffic Law or local law or rule concerning the
    parking, stopping or standing of motor vehicles. The prohibition herein shall
    not apply to driveways that have been rendered unusable due to the
    presence of a building or other fixed obstruction and, therefore, are not
    being used as defined in section 4-01(b) of these rules.
  • modsquad
    modsquad
    the legality of him parking in that manner is questionable at best.
    It's called reasonable doubt. The very basis of our legal system.
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  • vidro3
    vidro3
    maybe, but if you get a ticket; parking violations usually considers you

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  • drano
    drano
    BoogieKnight wrote: Or is there some sort of caustic material that you could put in a squeeze bottle so that you can just surreptiously squirt the cars while walking and ruin the paint on his cars?
    Just because somebody asked...http://www.shomer-tec.com/product/special-ingredients-liquid-keyscratch-328.cfm
  • astigmatism
    astigmatism
    So: not wanting to break any laws, I'm not going to key the guy's car or spray acid on the paint. And not owning a Vespa or Mini, I'm powerless to box him in.

    BUT, I've noticed that he has a disabled parking tag on his car, which is odd both because his parking maneuvers require that he jump back and forth from one to the other (typically a handful of times) in short order, and because he shoveled his cars out last week; in general he seems to be in very good health.

    So in the hopes of some more legally-grounded action, how does one go about reporting someone with a bogus disabled tag?
  • brooklynpotter
    brooklynpotter
    disabled parking tags do not always mean that *he* is disabled. it could mean who relies on him to drive them--his child or wife or mom is disabled--and he has to drive them places. and those people may not live with him. does he lives alone?
  • carp
    carp
    brooklynpotter wrote: disabled parking tags do not always mean that *he* is disabled. it could mean who relies on him to drive them--his child or wife or mom is disabled--and he has to drive them places. and those people may not live with him. does he lives alone?
    This is true, but according to the NY DMV brochure, the disabled person must be in the vehicle:

    It is a serious misuse of license plates and permits for the disabled when someone other that the person with a disability uses the plates or permit to park in a space reserved for people with disabilities. These license plates or parking permits are valid only when the person with a disability who received the plates or permit is driving the vehicle or is a passenger in it.
    From:
    http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c34.htm

    It doesn't sound like he's using this pass to park in a spot for disabled in this case, but, if you're so inclined, perhaps you might catch him cheating elsewhere. Not sure where one might report this, but 311 would probably be able to answer that question.
  • oldsloper
    oldsloper
    In NYC it is extremely rare to find street handicapped parking. It's only used in parking lots, so that tactic won't help. I still say beat him to the spot on ASS days.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    brooklynpotter wrote: disabled parking tags do not always mean that *he* is disabled. it could mean who relies on him to drive them--his child or wife or mom is disabled--and he has to drive them places. and those people may not live with him. does he lives alone?
    it could also mean the permits were purchased illegally, as has long been suspected by advocates for the disabled.

    ...there was some recent press around the issue. The "news" didn't go so far as to actually accuse theft, it just said "greater accounting was needed".

    (one could read this as "NYC, clean up your act or we will attempt to pursue this further")

    http://www.r8ny.com/node/151543

    http://www.vosizneias.com/48952/2010/02/09/new-york-ny-audit-lousy-record-keeping-at-disability-parking-permit-program
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    the blue tags you hang from a rearview mirror are ubiquitous.

    The NYC Parking Permit for People with Disabilities is much more difficult to get. I seem to vaguely recall a few years ago hearing that there are only about 20k of those in the 5 boroughs.
  • southslopesuit
    southslopesuit
    Whhooooa, hey, holdonnaminute!

    What makes us think that a guy who happens to have a highly evolved system for screwing his neighbors out of a public parking spot (to make his own parking easier).. would try to game the handicapped parking system (to make his own parking easier)?
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    I know shocking stuff. ...but those who love their cars have been known to go to pretty extreme lengths to have them close to them.

    I'm not discussing this particular driver/parker, of course.
  • arches
    arches
    Sound like he needs to be boxed in not with Vespas or Smartcars, but an electric wheelchair. Sure, he might push it out of the way with his monster truck, but video of the guy ramming a wheelchair while flying the handicapped flag would be priceless in your campaign against parking abusers!

    And then Carnivore could put the wheelchair back together with his gap filling glue. Everyone gets a chance to play.
  • carp
    carp
    oldsloper wrote: In NYC it is extremely rare to find street handicapped parking. It's only used in parking lots, so that tactic won't help. I still say beat him to the spot on ASS days.
    This is true, but handicap parking permits also allow you to park anywhere where there is a no parking sign (no standing is still restricted). So any church or school area during the daytime is fair game
    Where can I park with it?
    This permit allows the driver to park at most curbsides on City streets including:

    In all No Parking zones except those marked as taxi stands; "No Parking" or "No Standing" spaces authorized for doctors, press, diplomats and government agencies; at parking meters without depositing a coin; in "No Standing, Trucks Loading and Unloading" zones except for specified restricted hours.
    Source:
    http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/permits/pppdinfo.shtml#nys_where_can
  • carp
    carp
    I didn't read that page closely enough; as far as I can tell, only the NYC parking permit ("rectangular placard") lets you do that, not the NYS one ("hangtag")
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    carp wrote: I didn't read that page closely enough; as far as I can tell, only the NYC parking permit ("rectangular placard") lets you do that, not the NYS one ("hangtag")
    Like I said.
    vidro3 wrote: the blue tags you hang from a rearview mirror are ubiquitous.

    The NYC Parking Permit for People with Disabilities is much more difficult to get. I seem to vaguely recall a few years ago hearing that there are only about 20k of those in the 5 boroughs.
  • ringrunner
    ringrunner
    Astigmatism wrote: So: not wanting to break any laws, I'm not going to key the guy's car or spray acid on the paint. And not owning a Vespa or Mini, I'm powerless to box him in.

    BUT, I've noticed that he has a disabled parking tag on his car, which is odd both because his parking maneuvers require that he jump back and forth from one to the other (typically a handful of times) in short order, and because he shoveled his cars out last week; in general he seems to be in very good health.

    So in the hopes of some more legally-grounded action, how does one go about reporting someone with a bogus disabled tag?
    If I lived on that block, I would be calling 311 like every 20 minutes.
  • carmen
    carmen
    as much as this is irritating, I dont think he's doing anything illegal. If it really bothers someone, they should camp out around alternate side parking time and swoop in there before he has a chance to move back. Thats legal and doesn't involve vandalism which is not only against the law, but also extremely petty.
  • southslopesuit
    southslopesuit
    The irony of it is, if one of us swoops in, I'll bet good money this anal blister of a citizen won't hesitate to take some of the steps we revenge fantasy weaklings only huff and puff about.
  • booklaw
    booklaw
    SSS, I totally agree with you!
  • xpiamchris
    xpiamchris
    oh goodness... i hate parking hogs -_-; if i'm in a particularly bad mood.. ijust leave them a not-so-nice note..
  • donewaiting
    donewaiting
    update - right now -

    someone has decided to park behind the guy's second SUV (not the giant red monster). it's a small compact car and it basically touching the SUV.... the 2nd SUV was parked in a way that it was taking up 2 spots, but this brave soul has decided to push his/her luck.

    so tonight red monster wont be able to park... but could get ugly for lil' compact car.
  • ringrunner
    ringrunner
    so, What happened..
  • donewaiting
    donewaiting
    status quo
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    donewaiting wrote: status quo
    meaning what, he is still taking two spaces or the smaller car has prevented him from doing so?
  • donewaiting
    donewaiting
    meaning dude still has the spots
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    One word: CALTROPS.

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