Carl Paladino's Letter to Andrew Cuomo

As a nation are we becoming better behaved? ...this hasn't seemed that bad.

Or have I just missed how nasty the commercials are because I'm in Brooklyn?

Or maybe Cuomo still leads Paladino by 33 points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/nyregion/25polls.html?ref=nyregion

We'll see in a few weeks, but I'd like to think the New York electorate is too smart to fall for Caputo's bullshit smear tactics.

I've reread eggcream's post twice now and I still can't figure out why either bolded part is supposed to be significant.

Carnivore wrote: Or maybe Cuomo still leads Paladino by 33 points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/nyregion/25polls.html?ref=nyregion

We'll see in a few weeks, but I'd like to think the New York electorate is too smart to fall for Caputo's bullshit smear tactics.

Yeah real smart voting again for that tax cheat Charlie Rangel.

Boygabriel wrote: I've reread eggcream's post twice now and I still can't figure out why either bolded part is supposed to be significant.

3rd times a charm.

Still not. Sorry man.

Maybe you'll be proven right with the "he lied about voting" meme.

Probably not though.

"Can you really trust him to be our next governor?"

This logic confuses me. As someone who votes against politicians, I don't trust any of them. Trust is not something I give politicians.

....so far Sweet Tea has convinced me I dislike the Paladino guy more than the Cuomo guy.

If there was a third party candidate, I might vote against both the republican and democrat candidates ....but, oh well.

Someday there will be a fiscal conservative who is also a social liberal, and who is also sane. ....until then I wait to vote FOR someone.

whynot_31 wrote: ...Someday there will be a fiscal conservative who is also a social liberal, and who is also sane. ....until then I wait to vote FOR someone.

Their names were Goldwater, Nixon and surprise, surprise, Bush 41.

.....I may have to run myself.

eggcream wrote: [quote=Carnivore]Or maybe Cuomo still leads Paladino by 33 points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/nyregion/25polls.html?ref=nyregion

We'll see in a few weeks, but I'd like to think the New York electorate is too smart to fall for Caputo's bullshit smear tactics.

Yeah real smart voting again for that tax cheat Charlie Rangel.
I'd rather have him in Congress than just about any repug out there right now.

Eggcream-
Not everyone is a loyalist.

We don't have to love a candidate or its political party ....we only have to dislike him less than the other one.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=eggcream][quote=Carnivore]Or maybe Cuomo still leads Paladino by 33 points.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/nyregion/25polls.html?ref=nyregion

We'll see in a few weeks, but I'd like to think the New York electorate is too smart to fall for Caputo's bullshit smear tactics.

Yeah real smart voting again for that tax cheat Charlie Rangel.
I'd rather have him in Congress than just about any repug out there right now.

The irony of a Republican like eggcream berating anyone for being a tax cheat is excellent.

whynot_31 wrote: Eggcream-
Not everyone is a loyalist.

That one's going to fall on a deaf pair of ears I'm afraid.

I thought tax breaks created jobs? Maybe as long as they don't go to Paladino? If he fails at this, surely he'd fail in office.

for the Republican myth of tax breaks for the wealthy
at Paladino's ineptitude.

In his first attack ad last week, Andrew Cuomo accused gubernatorial opponent Carl Paladino of being a "welfare king" who pocketed $1.4 million in state tax breaks to create jobs, but created only one. But the Daily News reports that his companies actually netted closer to $3 million in tax breaks, and created a whopping 25 jobs in the process.

http://gothamist.com/2010/10/03/paladino_got_3_million_in_tax_break.php

bump, in light of Mr. Paladino's comments over the weekend.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/10/2010-10-10_carl_paladino_in_blast_at_gays_nothing_to_be_proud_of_in_being_a_dysfunctional_h.html

If he's a bigot, how can we trust him for office!?????

You might not be able to trust him, but others will.

....it isn't like the Catholic church authorities have rushed out and held press conferences. Although he isn't authorized to speak on behalf of the church, his views do pretty closely match their teachings. ....there are a a lot of Catholics around. At what point is a "Cafeteria Catholic" no longer a Catholic? ...meaning, how polite am I required to be to people who claim to not believe everything the Catholic Church believes, yet still claim to be Catholic?



....although this candidate is likely to lose, other Tea Party candidates won't.....

although this canditate is likely to lose,

eggcream sad.

Eggcream will be able to be happy about other races.

....and the nation will continue to become polarized. Slowly but surely, right wing, tax-and-rights-reduced bastions will be created.

Paladino saying his views are in line with the Catholic Church doesn't so much make him look normal as it makes Catholics look crazy.

The Catholics can't win, they have PR problems with or without him stating he represents their views.

....pedo priests

....believing the eucharist actually becomes God (not merely "represents"), and then eating it

...unmarried priests

...women can be in no positions of authority, muchless be priests.

...."virgin birth"

....divorce

...not to mention their views on homosexuality and masterbation.

eff dino, eff the catholic church, and eff the bigots in williamsburg that applauded

and where's eggcream defending the rant?

eggcream doesn't actually defend his beliefs. He posts long opinion pieces from the Daily News and refers to Obama as Barry.

Anyway, this was Paladino's pathetic non-apology?

Paladino apologized to the gay community for what he called his "poorly chosen words"

First of all, that's not an apology. That's a "sorry if you were offended, but I'm not sorry I feel that way" apology.

Secondly, how were they poorly chosen? Either you believe that hateful garbage or you don't:

Paladino told a group of Orthodox Jewish leaders that he opposed schools for what he called "brainwashing" of students into thinking that being gay is just another choice and "not the way God created us."

Does he have a more pleasant way of saying that gays are ungodly and that it's brainwashing to teach kids that it's ok to be gay?

Did he mean to say, "god loves all his children" instead of "god didn't create gays"?

Give me a break. This guy is your standard rightwing Republican who supports bigoted policies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/nyregion/14paladino.html?ref=nyregion

The alliance between the Republican Carl P. Paladino and an Orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn has fallen apart, with the rabbi denouncing Mr. Paladino on Wednesday for his apology over remarks he had made about homosexuality on Sunday.

The rabbi, Yehuda Levin, who helped write those remarks, said Mr. Paladino “folded like a cheap camera” because of the uproar they had set off. And the rabbi said he could no longer support Mr. Paladino’s candidacy for governor of New York.

could not have happened to a nicer guy.

Rabbi Levin wrote: I almost choked on the kosher salami.

That's what he said!

This Rabbi has two dozen followers.

Two. Dozen. He's a loser nobody, which is what Paladino will be to most New Yorkers come November.

Boygabriel wrote: This Rabbi has two dozen followers.

Two. Dozen. He's a loser nobody, which is what Paladino will be to most New Yorkers come November.

Maybe, indirectly. However, how many people, religious and non-religious, adhere to his views? I'm guessing more than popular thought believes. The misconception, now or days, that bigotry and/or intolerance lies only in white Christians is a dangerous one. Even the old USSR sent gays and lesbians to the mental institutions, and even a lot of gays and lesbians voted for Bush over Kerry. It's a fucked up world we live in.

Attn Gay People (and people who believe gay people should have rights): Cuomo believes you should not only vote AGAINST Paladino, but vote FOR him.

(just in case you were wondering)

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/10/14/2010-10-14_cuomo_tells_gay_activists_he_will_legalize_samesex_marriage_make_equality_a_real.html

Mr Paladino is the face of the new Republican Party, which has been infused by Tea Partysan resentment (the losers of recent American history). There was a time when Republican candidates would have expresses their various antipathies towards racial and sexual minorities (not to mention women) in indirect ways, using code words or euphemisms. But now that strategy is associated with the despised RINOcrats, the "weaklings" whom Tea Partysans seek to eliminate. Today it's good to be mavericky and to be rude and offensive, which is the form that "political correctness" takes for the Baggers: in other words, it's politically correct to be uncivil. Then, when the so-called MSM responds, one can always claim victimhood. It's a winning strategy: perp at one moment, victim of a media crime the next.

this is hopeful

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/nyregion/18poll.html