Speak up for residential parking permits around the arena

Just a reminder for anyone interested that the hearing is this morning at 10:30am as per the original post here:

danaeo said:

Help support residential permit parking in central Brooklyn!

State legislation required to limit demand for car travel to Barclays Center

What: Hearing of the New York City Council Committee on State and Federal Legislation

When: Wednesday, 11/2 at 10:30AM

Where: 250 Broadway, 14th Floor

unsticking now that the meeting is over.

The meeting resulted in the city people requesting that the state people consider giving the city "Home Rule" on parking permits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/nyregion/council-to-vote-on-plan-for-residents-parking-permits.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion

they should do it to the city as a whole, other wise would be pointless. plus they can make some money out of it too. none residential permits should cost like few k more.

too many new yorkers have cabins or bungalows in upstate ny. where they get super cheap insurance for their cars. others have relatives in Florida or south Carolina or some other states.

I doubt many people will drive, even from Jersey.

Everybody knows it is going to be a clusterfuck traffic wise.

it might take 2-3 games before those people who do drive there realize that it is pretty stupid.

PATH to the B/D at w4th street is not a particularly onerous commute. I know people who do that commute everyday. They live in Hoboken, work in park slope.

Fans have also managed to do the trip in the other direction during Red Bulls games, which has a higher capacity than the Barclays Center. Red Bulls average attendance this year was higher than Barclays Center capacity. They don't have significantly more parking than the nets arena will have.

RPPs are not necessarily bad. The devil is in the details as they say; it depends what the exact parameters of the plan are.

If getting a permit is tied to having your car registered in the city it will definitely reduce the number of cars out there as many people won't be able to afford the higher insurance rates.

If the plan increases the chances of getting a spot in your neighborhood it may actually encourage people to drive more within and between the boroughs since you know you have a space to come home to. Or at least a better shot at one.

I can't imagine that the RPP would be so strict that it would increase the amount of parking available beyond the pre-arena period.

In other words, I think the most local car owners could hope from this plan is that parking remains as difficult as it is now.

well if it is something like a "parking curfew" where after say 10pm all non RPP cars get a ticket that could be an improvement over the status quo

vidro3 said:

I doubt many people will drive, even from Jersey.

Everybody knows it is going to be a clusterfuck traffic wise.

it might take 2-3 games before those people who do drive there realize that it is pretty stupid.

PATH to the B/D at w4th street is not a particularly onerous commute. I know people who do that commute everyday. They live in Hoboken, work in park slope.

Fans have also managed to do the trip in the other direction during Red Bulls games, which has a higher capacity than the Barclays Center. Red Bulls average attendance this year was higher than Barclays Center capacity. They don't have significantly more parking than the nets arena will have.

If you are a current Nets season ticket holder that lives in Newark, Hoboken or Jersey City, the commute to Brooklyn via public transit is not that bad. However, I'm willing to bet that the distribution of season ticket holders probably encompasses more folks from places like Summit, Westfield, Ho-Ho-Kus, and Montclair. Those locales don't have easy PATH to NYC transit options but instead require NJ transit trains into Penn Station or buses into Port Authority. How many people are going to take even a 30 minute ride into the city, then do a 30-45 minute subway ride? Especially when commuter trains and buses are running every 45 minutes or hour at night?

how many of those people from hohokus and such already take NJ transit into manhattan for work?

probably lots.

The word is in:

As expected, Residential Parking Permits are not going to happen.

http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2012/07/dot-no-residential-permit-parking-needed-near-arena/#disqus_thread

they should instituted it to get nywkers who pay outside insurance rates, but only like limit spots to a few on each block for non nywkers to park without a permit.

and charge permits for a fee this way they can make some god damn money for the city. it sure does need it.

More on the DOT's report on Residential Parking Plans on Prospect Heights Patch.

Not only do they say they're not needed because there are plenty of spots in Prospect Heights and Fort Greene, but also that the would "inconvenience" non-residents who drive to the area to shop or see friends:

http://prospectheights.patch.com/articles/dot-study-says-parking-won-t-be-an-issue-at-arena

-Amy

I am disappointed that I will not have permit to sell to someone who does not live in the neighborhood.