Korean barbeque, Vandy and Pacific!

poopypoop wrote: hahahahahahahhahaah!!!!!

guess what?

YOU'RE NOT FUNNY.

and, again, mod note - get with the program of not name calling or get a time out.

if you are incapable of reading, I suggest you ask someone to read this aloud.

Anyway...
i was reading on page one where someone was complaining about running out of kimchi. It happens! I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant and we've run out of certain types of kimchi and even RICE some nights. sometimes orders run late and demand overwhelms supply.

I don't enjoy Korean restaurants, especially if they are advertised as "Korean BBQ", that don't have roasters at the tables.

Also, just because there are open tables doesn't mean a restaurant can handle that many people. Food comes out slow when the kitchen is overwhelmed with new orders, such as during a rush (8pm is a good time for that).
As a server, my service ability goes WAY down when I am seated 3 tables at once. This actually happened to me Saturday night, when a party of ten was seated, and before I even got their drink orders I had two new tables of parties of 4 each. They could have asked those two other parties to wait 10 minutes, then everything would have been perfect, and one of the parties wouldn't have had to wait so long while I deliered drinks and took orders for the 10 person party, then took the order of the 2nd party, then getting to the third.

But the most important thing is, if your server tells you "i will be with you in just a minute", give her/him the benefit of the doubt-- they are communicating with you so you don't get impatient, which is good customer service!!

Anotherdayinbkln wrote: I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant

Isn't Japanese barbeque Korean barbeque?

Alex wrote: [quote=Anotherdayinbkln] I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant

Isn't Japanese barbeque Korean barbeque?


NO IT ISN'T

Didn't we just read like a 4,000 word-long post about the differences between Korean writing and the other scripts of Asia!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

Japanese BBQ is smaller portions, you cook it yourself, you get a choice of the meats and marinades you grill in, and you don't get a boatload of free side dishes. And unlike most Korean BBQ restaurants, there is no minimum spending per person.

GAH.

Anotherdayinbkln wrote: [quote=Alex][quote=Anotherdayinbkln] I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant

Isn't Japanese barbeque Korean barbeque?


NO IT ISN'T

Didn't we just read like a 4,000 word-long post about the differences between Korean writing and the other scripts of Asia!?!?!?!??!?!?!?


Wait... Koreans are Japanese?

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pensodyssey wrote: [quote=Anotherdayinbkln][quote=Alex][quote=Anotherdayinbkln] I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant

Isn't Japanese barbeque Korean barbeque?


NO IT ISN'T

Didn't we just read like a 4,000 word-long post about the differences between Korean writing and the other scripts of Asia!?!?!?!??!?!?!?


Wait... Koreans are Japanese?

Well, only for a short while after 1905. It was bloody and violent rein of terror, but since then Koreans and Japanese barbeque have parted ways.

That Yarn Guy wrote: [quote=pensodyssey][quote=Anotherdayinbkln][quote=Alex][quote=Anotherdayinbkln] I work at a Japanese-barbeque restaurant

Isn't Japanese barbeque Korean barbeque?


NO IT ISN'T

Didn't we just read like a 4,000 word-long post about the differences between Korean writing and the other scripts of Asia!?!?!?!??!?!?!?


Wait... Koreans are Japanese?

Well, only for a short while after 1905. It was bloody and violent rein of terror, but since then Koreans and Japanese barbeque have part ways.Even though my thesis in college was on Japanese-Korean relations from the period of Japanese Imperialism thru the war and to the present.... I will restrain myself.

Subject: Re: Sorta

That Yarn Guy wrote:
since then Koreans and Japanese barbeque have parted ways.

But Japanese people still like Korean barbeque, right?

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pensodyssey wrote: [quote=That Yarn Guy]
since then Koreans and Japanese barbeque have parted ways.

But Japanese people still like Korean barbeque, right?

Of coures they do, but as warring nations they won't admit it. I think they both hate Chinese take-out though. Too salty.

I treated my friend and his parents (who are from Japan) to a night at Sammy's Romanian not so long ago. They started speaking and writing in Hebrew after the bread and schmaltz.

Anotherdayinbkln wrote:
Japanese BBQ is smaller portions, you cook it yourself, you get a choice of the meats and marinades you grill in, and you don't get a boatload of free side dishes.
GAH.

In Japan they call that Korean bbq. I guess you could call Japanese bbq in New York if Japanese people work there but I think it still comes from Korea originally.

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That Yarn Guy wrote: [quote=pensodyssey][quote=That Yarn Guy]
since then Koreans and Japanese barbeque have parted ways.

But Japanese people still like Korean barbeque, right?

Of coures they do, but as warring nations they won't admit it. I think they both hate Chinese take-out though. Too salty.

They need to try Chan Yang's General Tsao's. You can't even taste the salt, because they drown it in vaseline.

Alex wrote:

In Japan they call that Korean bbq. I guess you could call Japanese bbq in New York if Japanese people work there but I think it still comes from Korea originally.

In Japan they call it "Yakiniku" which means "Grilled Meats". Its different, very different, from traditional Korean bbq.
And modern "Yakiniku" comes from WW2 era japan, where hungry hungry people were grilling "horumon", or literally "trash meat", or beef parts like mino (tripe), yuke (large intestine), and tongue that restaurants (and Post-war SCAP occupationists) didn't eat, on open flame-garbage cans to feed themselves since everything from potatoes to rice was rationed. A big chunk of these people happened to be of Korean ethnicity, as they were pretty much the worst-off in wartime Japan.

My boyfriend, who I live with, is a Korean-Japanese, a Korean who was born in Japan. We used to go to Yakiniku all the time when we lived in Japan, and while many (most) of them in Kyoto and Osaka were Korean-owned, they were Japanese BBQ. If you wanted "KOREAN BBQ" you had to go to Koreatown.

interesting. I've eaten several times at a korean restaurant on 9th street called yakiniku west. (I believe - I call it "the place where you sit on the floor" - seriously. have eaten there for years and that's really it's name for my friends and I)
in any case, I always get the filet mignon meal and love it because I get to cook and marinate it myself (I hate korean bbq joints that cook the meat for me - I"m very particular about meat and, if I can't specifiy doneness, prefer to do the grilling myself. this might also be the texan in me). in any case, the restaurant rules - it's right around the corner from angel's share and st. marks bookstore and decibel. aka lots of awesome things in life. (though angel's share needs some help on the moscow mule front ... but the korean restaurant attached is bombtastic - their fresh tofu is to die for)

Yakiniku West is not Korean. Its Japanese BBQ. If its called "yakiniku", its Japanese. I've spoken to the Management in Japanese. The available dishes are Japanese versions of Korean items.
You should check out GyuKaku next time, its on Cooper Sq just south of there on Third Av in the Village Voice building. Thats the sister restaurant to my location in Midtown on 50th and 3rd. Its a little more expensive than Yakiniku West, but you can taste the difference. And its the most authentic version of Japanese BBQ you will find (there are 800 locations in Japan)

Anotherdayinbkln wrote: [quote=Alex]

In Japan they call that Korean bbq. I guess you could call Japanese bbq in New York if Japanese people work there but I think it still comes from Korea originally.

In Japan they call it "Yakiniku" which means "Grilled Meats". Its different, very different, from traditional Korean bbq.
And modern "Yakiniku" comes from WW2 era japan, where hungry hungry people were grilling "horumon", or literally "trash meat", or beef parts like mino (tripe), yuke (large intestine), and tongue that restaurants (and Post-war SCAP occupationists) didn't eat, on open flame-garbage cans to feed themselves since everything from potatoes to rice was rationed. A big chunk of these people happened to be of Korean ethnicity, as they were pretty much the worst-off in wartime Japan.

My boyfriend, who I live with, is a Korean-Japanese, a Korean who was born in Japan. We used to go to Yakiniku all the time when we lived in Japan, and while many (most) of them in Kyoto and Osaka were Korean-owned, they were Japanese BBQ. If you wanted "KOREAN BBQ" you had to go to Koreatown.

That's interesting, I didn't know that. I've had both in Japan and they seemed the same.

Anotherdayinbkln wrote: Yakiniku West is not Korean. Its Japanese BBQ. If its called "yakiniku", its Japanese. I've spoken to the Management in Japanese. The available dishes are Japanese versions of Korean items.
You should check out GyuKaku next time, its on Cooper Sq just south of there on Third Av in the Village Voice building. Thats the sister restaurant to my location in Midtown on 50th and 3rd. Its a little more expensive than Yakiniku West, but you can taste the difference. And its the most authentic version of Japanese BBQ you will find (there are 800 locations in Japan)

see, I could *swear* somewhere on their menu they say they're Korean. and I always figured they were b/c of the kimchi and bibimbop, etc.
the things I learn on this board!

we finally tried noo na for the first time tonight. i'm no expert on korean food, but what we had was really tasty, the service was perfect, the decor and vibe casual and pleasant.

we shared a kimchi pajun (scallion pancake) which we had to make a supreme effort not to gobble down it was so good. and there was enough of it left for us to take a couple of slices home.

mrs. joe had the man du gug (dumpling and noodle soup with rice cakes, sliced beef, scallions and egg), which she said was a little bland at first but got more and more flavorful as the broth soaked up the other ingredients. i had the dol sot bi bim bop with octopus, which was excellent and came with sauce on the side so you could make it as spicy as you want.

we had two bottles of hot sake, perfect when it was 8 degrees outside. neither of us could finish our dishes, but not for lacking of trying. we were offered ginger creme brulee for dessert, which sounded amazing but we were both too full to even think about (although mrs. joe did anyway).

i can't judge the authenticity, but we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. great addition to the hood. we'll be back.

edit: i have to retract the part about the perfect service. i thought it was quite good but mrs. joe reminded me that she was thoroughly annoyed that our waitron asked not once, but twice, "how are we doing?"

i'm tempted to let it slide once, but twice? she has a point.

Smokin' Joe wrote: edit: i have to retract the part about the perfect service. i thought it was quite good but mrs. joe reminded me that she was thoroughly annoyed that our waitron asked not once, but twice, "how are we doing?"

i'm tempted to let it slide once, but twice? she has a point.

It could have been worse. She might have asked, "Are you still working on that?"

I mean, food has to be pretty damn bad for it to be "work", right?

frankly, if I'm eating slowly, but still "working on it", leave me alone. or ask me about my drink. if I've stopped, I've probably done something I haven't done before, like tossed my napkin over my plate or dropped my utensils.

I ask my guests a lot about "how are we doing??" in case they want another drink or some more kimchi and stuff. My restaurant is kind of based on small plates idea, too, so people are constantly ordering ala carte

Anotherdayinbkln wrote: I ask my guests a lot about "how are we doing??" in case they want another drink or some more kimchi and stuff. My restaurant is kind of based on small plates idea, too, so people are constantly ordering ala carte

Thank you! What's wrong with a waitperson making sure you have everything you need, OMG, TWICE! She found that thoroughly annoying, Smokin'? To me that's attentive service. Different strokes...yadayada.

hmmm...must admit that the "we" part does have a kindergarten teacher chumminess about it that can sometimes be grating. "did we wash our hands in the bathroom?"

i am a crotchety old lady sometimes, though.

i just like to make sure I have another drink ordered for my customer before they finish the one they have. i feel defeated if they have to wave me down

There's nothing wrong with a waiter or waitress asking that once or twice but the third time becomes very annoying. Especially if the patrons are conversing and are interrupted.

I have dreams about this amazing lamb dish I had a few years ago. there's nothing like it on any Indian menu I've seen.

You should PM djuoh (if he's still registered on DH) and ask him where he eats, and perhaps he can identify that dish by name. I would trust his opinion, and eat where he eats. He should know.

whoa . . . let me clarify. . . neither my wife nor i have any problems with attentive service. and the waitress, i have to say, was just that--attentive, not overbearing. the objection was to the pronoun. how are WE doing? there's just no WE to it, and if there were, she shouldn't be asking us. i don't know how she's doing.

sweet tea is on the money (with that lyle lovett riff, i'd expect nothing less): i don't need a kindergarten teacher to ask if WE need to go to the bathroom, i don't need a nurse to ask how WE are feeling, and i don't need a waitron to ask how WE'RE doing. it's cloyingly ingratiating, it's patronizing, it's annoying.

sorry to make such a stink over a pronoun, but what's wrong with "you"?

I had lunch at Noona on Saturday, and they've rearranged the main dining area, removing half the tables and adding a new bar.

Not making money?

I ate the clam soup at Noona in March and got sick. I was basically pissing out of my ass for four hours. The food their wasn't anything special, and a couple of the plates weren't very good at all. Whenever I want legit Korean food I just hop on the subway and head to Koreatown in Herald Square.