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  • oiseau
    oiseau
    LeeHo wrote: I actually don't think the Red Sox look all that good on paper. Matsuzaka is a big question mark, Schilling is just a, well, dick, and his republican ass is old, Lester is coming back from chemo..........
    '

    Yeah even as a Red Sox fan I agree Schilling as a republican born-again asshole.

    I'd say the Red Sox pitching has thepossibility of being better than the Yanks. Matsuzaka is the question mark. Their hitting is just about as good. Injuries will be the deciding factor just as they were last year.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Well, it feels like ANYTHING can happen this season. So, unless it's against the Yankees I'd like to see the Cubs--w/Sweet Lou at the helm--win it this year.
  • oiseau
    oiseau
    Cubs/Royals!
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Um, in a word: no.
  • oiseau
    oiseau
    Yeah well, with baseball in teh state it's in now, the Royals are nothing more then a farm team. That can be said for a bunch of teams who each year have little chance.
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    7 different teams have won the series the last 7 years... I think that that's pretty good.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Hey, WF

    If the next 3 WS champs are all non-repeating teams would this be the first decade in baseball history for that to happen? (In other words, a different winning team for every year of the decade.)
  • whyfi
    whyfi
    I would think that it would have to be... but I don't know for sure. I mean, there can't be too many decades when the Yanks haven't won a couple, and I'm sure that some other team picked up a little slack...

    Edit - yup. it would be.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Here's what I found out:

    * From 1978 to 1987, no franchise won the World Series twice, the longest such streak. The second longest streak extends from 1982 to 1990, and the current streak of seven straight (2000 to 2006) is the third longest such streak.

    * The 1915-1916 Red Sox and 1992-1993 Blue Jays are the only non-Yankee or non-A's American League teams to win two straight World Series.

    * The 1907-1908 Cubs, 1921-1922 Giants and 1975-1976 Reds are the only National League teams to win back-to-back World Series.


    Comments:
    - Since the streak never reaches a complete decade, it looks like in the next couple of seasons someone's going to repeat. Obviously biased, I'm going to say it'll be the Yankees.

    - Yanks and A's, eh? Pretty cool in my book.

    - Ah, the Big Red Machine...saw 'em on TV with my Dad when I was a pup. Just plain awesome...
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    George Steinbrenner wrote: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
    YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Um, yeah, ok.
  • leeho
    leeho
    Haiku for the countdown:

    6 days left to go
    Opening day, Carl P.
    Will he hurt his butt?

    That's right a fuckin' haiku for the Yanks! C'mon and get me George!
  • kaiserkai
    kaiserkai
    I am hoping for Pavano to have a killer season.
    I doubt it but it would be great.
    If he gets 15 wins and can keep his ERA around 4.20 id be happy too.
  • leeho
    leeho
    I think he has 15 in him as well.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    So, Pavano is the first of the sorry bunch to redeem himself. Good for him. This was the first time in Yankee history, if I heard correctly, that that no member of the starting rotation got to pitch 6 innings in their initial outing.

    And the whole series with the O's was a slugfest. After their win on Friday, I heard that the O's mgr said something to the effect of being happy for the win but that he couldn't afford to put in 5 pitchers every day. Word.

    Meanwhile, A-Rod is kicking ass. Leads the league in homers and RBIs and was co-AL Player of the Week with Vladimir Guerrero. Pretty sweet.

    On the other hand, the Japanese kid looked lame, no Matsui for 2 weeks, and little injuries are poppin' up here and there. Wonder if the fact that this is not a young club--a little more than 2/3 of the roster are in their 30s--has anything to do with it.

    So glad to be back in baseball mode...
  • oiseau
    oiseau
    $195 million has to buy you something, right?
  • kaiserkai
    kaiserkai
    Something yeah, a proper starting rotation no.

    Pettitte did well also.
    I am not to worried about the Moose and Andy, they will be allright, not great but solid.
    Pavano looked good last time out but I am not buying into it until he does similarly for a few outings in a row.
    Igawa, oh dear, where to start, one start is to early to label him a bust bit it wasnt pretty.
    Wang will be back soon hopefully.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    kaiserkai wrote:
    Pavano looked good last time out but I am not buying into it until he does similarly for a few outings in a row.
    Igawa, oh dear, where to start, one start is to early to label him a bust bit it wasnt pretty.
    Wang will be back soon hopefully.
    I'm no fan of Pavano's but let's have a little faith and hope for the best.

    You're right, one start is not enough to determine Igawa's future--if A-Rod hadn't grand-slammed Igawa would've been the goat in that one, regardless--but people are looking at the money involved and the much different outcome of his Red Sox counterpart's lone outing.
  • kaiserkai
    kaiserkai
    Down goes the moose. Hamstring injuries at his age can be serious problems.
    Lets hope for the best.
    Speaking of the Red Sox counterpart, He pitched well his 2 times out, but I think he is still overhyped. He is a good pitcher, no doubt, but I dont think he will be an elite pitcher.
    The guy that impressed me the most on the Sox so far is Papelbon, his 5 out 15 pitches save was a phenomenal effort, and he brings a kind of energy to the mound you dont see often. If he can stay healthy through the season he will be right up there with Mo again or better.

    4-4, nothing impressive so far, but it could be worse if the offense hadnt picked up some of the slack.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Agreed. But once the offense calms down a bit--like last night--the pitching can't keep their end of the bargain. For now, I hope.

    Btw, nice Willie Mays imitation by Jeter on the field last night. Very cool.
  • leeho
    leeho
    Ugh. What is going on with our team?
  • kaiserkai
    kaiserkai
    lets revive this one again.
    Boy do we need some pitching improvements.
    Theyre bringing up Hughes for Thursdays game, guessing in an effort to avoid Wright to have to face the Sox again over the weekend.

    The offense is actually clicking scoring a lot of runs per game, but if you give up more that doesnt matter much.....

    Lets hope this stabilizes soon.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    What pitching rotation?

    Seriously, if the offense hadn't stood up the Yankees would've evicted TB from the last-place basement. I think the Boston sweep should be a HUGE wake up call to get things in order. All the teams in the East are much better this year, especially the birds.

    I dunno if this is the time to bring up Hughes...Wang comes back today, right?

    What I think we can all agree on is that if this pitching situation continues like this--and it's not just the injuries: the majority of these guys were impressing NO ONE when they were healthy--it's going to be a long, painful season.
  • leeho
    leeho
    "The We are Fucked in April Haiku"

    A-Rod can hit lots,
    yet, the arms, they flail and drop,
    Pitching is a flop.
  • kaiserkai
    kaiserkai
    Can you have any more bad luck when it comes to starting pitching?

    Guess we'll see what this team is made of at the end of this season.
    I have never seen that many starting pitchers go down in that short a period of time.

    Silver lining was that Hughes really showed that he belongs in the majors.
    That was an impressive outing.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    kaiserkai wrote: Can you have any more bad luck when it comes to starting pitching?

    Guess we'll see what this team is made of at the end of this season.
    I have never seen that many starting pitchers go down in that short a period of time.
    I hope this isn't those f@#*s in Boston reversing the curse, as a buddy and fellow Yankee fan suggested last night. That or some real bad karma. I mean, what's the deal?
    kaiserkai wrote: Silver lining was that Hughes really showed that he belongs in the majors. That was an impressive outing.
    Absolutely.
    A no-hitter for 6 1/3? Sure, Texas' bats haven't been exactly burning lately, but still.
  • oiseau
    oiseau
    The Yankees have once again shown exactly why they are the #1 most hated sports franchise in the world with the $28 million for one year signing of 45-year old Roger Clemens.

    I can only hope the old men on the Yankees continually get hurt and that they finish near the bottom of the AL East.

    Have proven IMO that they not only represent all that is wrong with baseball, but all that is wrong with America.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    You are entitled to your opinion but would you have said the same about the Red Sox if their vanity deal to Clemens--not needing him they would've expanded the starting roster to six and offered comparable money for him to pitch on Sundays only--had gone through? Doubt it. What if the Yankees had offered that deal? Steinbrenner would've been burned in effigy for sure. At least the Yankees need a pitcher and NO ONE is willing to give up what they have in a deal. Cashman has been on the phone all over the league looking and decent starting pitching is so scarce that teams are hanging on desperately to scrubs.


    Yes, the NYY are the most reviled. They are also the most loved. Not many Orioles fans in MO, Red Sox fans in TX or A's fans in FL, are there? Yankee fans are all over the world, let alone over the US. (And I'm not talking about those that wear Yankee hats as an accessory. I'm talking about people timing their vacations to coincide with baseball season so they can come to the Bronx and see their team play.)

    You want to hate the Yankees? Fine, that you're right. But be fair. That's all.
    Oiseau wrote: The Yankees have once again shown exactly why they are the #1 most hated sports franchise in the world with the $28 million for one year signing of 45-year old Roger Clemens.

    I can only hope the old men on the Yankees continually get hurt and that they finish near the bottom of the AL East.

    Have proven IMO that they not only represent all that is wrong with baseball, but all that is wrong with America.
  • oiseau
    oiseau
    The Red Sox didn't need him and they only do what they have to to try and stop the out-of-control Yankee spending machine.

    If you support the Yankees IMO, you are supporting evil and all that is evil about America. As for people in other countries wearing Yankee apperal, well they just don't know better.

    You ask for fairness? You a Yankee fan? A fan of the team that thumbs it nose at every other baseball team out there just because they can.

    It's sickening. I will never go to Yankee stadium ever again which means I will never have to surround myself with loud, foul mouthed, low-class, vapid Yankee fan morons who enjoy singing "God Bless America" and "Cotton-Eyed Joe".

    Pathetic.