New to BedStuy...

And, so far, loving it... Just wanted to say "hi" to everyone here as I'll be reading and asking A LOT of questions! Hope that's ok.

It's Friday! ENJOY!

Welcome and enjoy. 8)

Welcome! You'll find a lot of answers to your neighborhood questions. I certainly did.

where in bed stuy ?

I vote that we start making a distinction between North Stuy and South Stuy, with the dividing line being Lafayette Avenue. Actually Bed-Stuy should be divided into micronabes, because when someone refers to Bed-Stuy it almost lacks meaning because the neighborhood is so huge. I can't understand why the micronabe concept isn't applied to this area of Brooklyn. In any case, what say you, Goldi? Are you a North Stuyer or a South Stuyer?

The Changeling wrote: I vote that we start making a distinction between North Stuy and South Stuy, with the dividing line being Lafayette Avenue. Actually Bed-Stuy should be divided into micronabes, because when someone refers to Bed-Stuy it almost lacks meaning because the neighborhood is so huge. I can't understand why the micronabe concept isn't applied to this area of Brooklyn. In any case, what say you, Goldi? Are you a North Stuyer or a South Stuyer?

uh oh... here we go.

Anonymous wrote: [quote=The Changeling]I vote that we start making a distinction between North Stuy and South Stuy, with the dividing line being Lafayette Avenue. Actually Bed-Stuy should be divided into micronabes, because when someone refers to Bed-Stuy it almost lacks meaning because the neighborhood is so huge. I can't understand why the micronabe concept isn't applied to this area of Brooklyn. In any case, what say you, Goldi? Are you a North Stuyer or a South Stuyer?

uh oh... here we go.Guest, my distinction was not meant to be divisive but informative. No static here. It's just that saying you live in Bed-Stuy doesn't really tell me if you're my neighbor or not. For me, the area down by Fulton might as well be Staten Island because it's so far from my house. When new businesses open up in BS I get excited, until I find out that they are on the other side of the neighborhood, because that means that they are not in my area and I probably won't be visiting them. If 'locs wants to ask questions about BS, she'll have to tell us her general location. I thought a north/south distinction would help clarify things a bit without giving out too much information. I am a North Stuyer, a star-bellied Sneech, if you will.

Subject: Where I'm at...

Thanks for the warm welcome!!!

I'm on the A/C lines between Fulton Avenue and Madison Street. Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out the whole neighborhood naming game, though I think I'm smack in the middle of BedStuy, you true Brooklynites, may know better. So, feel to correct me. I can hardly wait until the warmer weather so that I can walk and truly see "where I'm at." Right now, your lively posts on the subject are very enlightening.

WELCOME!


ot: I think he makes a good point. Bed Stuy is huge! It could use some distinction.

This is an interesting paper on Bed Stuy.
http://urbanology.org/BedStuy/
Includes a few maps in the beginning.

Subject: North Stuy

The Changeling, Hey Changeling....I gather from your message that you are in "North" Stuy.....I just started a thread to see if there are others who ride the J, M, Z train and are exploring the area of BedStuy around Broadway/Myrtle and Kosciusco....I've been here in "North Stuy" two years and still think there must be or could be some cool stuff springing up besides the endless hair weaving shops and Bodegas..... Anyway, hopefully others will respond to my Myrtle/Broadway post....

Thanks for posting the link to that informative paper on Bed-Stuy, Isla. Bed-Stuy Ken, I'm heading over to your post!

Very informative paper. Thanks, Ken. The history is amazing.

The Changeling wrote: I vote that we start making a distinction between North Stuy and South Stuy, with the dividing line being Lafayette Avenue. Actually Bed-Stuy should be divided into micronabes, because when someone refers to Bed-Stuy it almost lacks meaning because the neighborhood is so huge. I can't understand why the micronabe concept isn't applied to this area of Brooklyn. In any case, what say you, Goldi? Are you a North Stuyer or a South Stuyer?

No

No, no, no

No, no, no, no, no


Okay, I'm glad to have new neighbors and I'm happy you are finding my home nabe to be to your liking. But there are just some things that you guys can't change. The delination of the nabe is one of them. Please, please, please, let this die a quiet and peaceful death.

Look homeowner, we ain't from here, so just as the folks before us have done, we're bringing in our own distinctions so that we can make some sense of this large unwieldy neighborhood. Who ever heard of giving such a large area one name? And from what I've heard BS is smaller now that it once was. Weren't some people living in Clinton Hill (or even Fort Greene) saying that they lived in BS years ago? Madness!

If blocks upon blocks upon blocks of land are given one name, then there needs to be some sort of additional wording to pinpoint location. Saying you live in Bed-Stuy is like saying you live in America. Doesn't tell you much.

The Changeling
North Stuyer

i absolutely agree that bs needs to be broken down into smaller named neighborhoods, just as almost every neighborhood in nyc has done. it won't affect the history or the fabric of bs, it will only help it by making it easier to navigate...it is HUGE. even if it's north stuy/west stuy/east stuy....something to give some clarity to the people who live there and for those who don't. don't fight it!!!

homeowner wrote: Okay, I'm glad to have new neighbors and I'm happy you are finding my home nabe to be to your liking. But there are just some things that you guys can't change. The delination of the nabe is one of them. Please, please, please, let this die a quiet and peaceful death.

Homeowner your defence of Bed Stuy gets my support but your location says Park Place. What gives?

Subject: Re: Where I'm at...

goldilocs wrote: Thanks for the warm welcome!!!

I'm on the A/C lines between Fulton Avenue and Madison Street. Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out the whole neighborhood naming game, though I think I'm smack in the middle of BedStuy, you true Brooklynites, may know better. So, feel to correct me. I can hardly wait until the warmer weather so that I can walk and truly see "where I'm at." Right now, your lively posts on the subject are very enlightening.

Looks like we're in the same area. I love it here. Enjoy!

Subject: Renting in the Stuy!!

Hi - I am currently looking for a place btw Marcy Ave and Lewis..Everyone says that streets vary on price..is that true?? if so how much is the max u feel a 1BR goes for the in the area..not sure if I can go by craigslist since things tend to be overpriced. Where are other places to search and get quality apts in the Stuy besides craigslist.. tried local newspapers as well..but not as informative as i need it to be..
Thanks.. (this blog is really hot, im feeling the energy)..

Re: DIVIDING THE NABE INTO SECTIONS:
I've noticed that there are a lot of liberal-minded folks in the Historic Distric, whereas people near Brownsville seem more conservative, so: RED-STUY, BLUE-STUY.

OR,
Everyone praises historic Stuyvesant Heights while blasting quality of life issues near the projects, therefore: BEDnBREAK-STUY, PIG-STUY.

YET STILL,
The historic Heights area has a century-old tradition of being home to black strivers (Weeksville), while the north section will be an attractive spill-over to Bushwick/ Williamsburg
hipster/ newcomers. So: BLACK-STUY, WHITE-STUY.

No matter how you slice it -When you begin to bisect a neighborhood while in the midst of aggressive gentrification - you carve out issues of race and class.

not if its north and south. It doesn't have to be like Hells Kitchen and Midtown with one being formally filled with poor irish and the other being a financial center.

North Slope, Center Slope and South Slope, although most the time retarded broker lingo still give people an idea of where things are. 15th street is really far from Flatbush when making dinner plans. All three are have different feels and people but not in a negative way at all.

As in the real world I will not defend myself or the police/admins will try to lock me up. 8)

The Changeling wrote: I vote that we start making a distinction between North Stuy and South Stuy, with the dividing line being Lafayette Avenue. Actually Bed-Stuy should be divided into micronabes, because when someone refers to Bed-Stuy it almost lacks meaning because the neighborhood is so huge. I can't understand why the micronabe concept isn't applied to this area of Brooklyn.

...Actually...it was once divided into two sections; "Stuyvesant Heights" was everything east of Throop/Kingston Avenue, and "Bedford" was what lay to the west. At least, that's what Wikipedia says:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuyvesant_Heights,_Brooklyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford,_Brooklyn

And it strikes me that the only ones who really know precisely where all the neighborhood boundaries are anyway, or who care most, are the realtors. (shrug)

Admins, might not be a good business move to shut down your most popular thread that isn't related to a daily human function.

END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

guru wrote: END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

Don't feel bad Guru. I am actually from an island. It has come to the point that our island has 2 forums;one for the locals and one for the tourists. The tourist one is censored very much like this one is. Locals are not allowed to say anything about how we feel. Only allowed to talk about white owned restaurants and villas and stuff. Worldwide ting.

guru wrote: END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.

queencallipygos wrote: [quote=guru]END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.
ORLY?
Then why did i just see posts about "poor black people suck" on the prospect heights board? Please explain.

annoyed wrote: [quote=queencallipygos][quote=guru]END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.
ORLY?
Then why did i just see posts about "poor black people suck" on the prospect heights board? Please explain.

I'm not a mod, so I can't say for certain, but perhaps they don't know about it yet. Couldn't hurt to send one a PM to ask them for sure -- if they don't know, I'm sure they'd appreciate the heads-up.

queencallipygos wrote: [quote=guru]END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.

Exactly.

Guru, I think you're a bit confused about what censorship is. Censorship is when the government limits speech in a public forum. Internet bulletin boards like this one are PRIVATE forums -- this site is owned and paid for by a private individual, and the users are essentially guests here and by using this site agree to follow its rules.

And if you'll check out the rules -- handily available at the "THE RULES" link at the top of every page of this site -- they're not really that onerous.

Here are two examples to try to illustrate this in a way you can understand:

Say you're standing on a public street corner peacefully holding a sign that expresses whatever your political view is, and a cop arrests you. The sidewalk is a public forum, you're being prevented from exercising your First Amendment rights by the government, and that fits the definition of censorship.

Now, then, say you go to a party at Joe Schmoe's apartment, and you get into a screaming match with another party guest in the living room. Joe Schmoe tells you that you both have to cool it or else he's kicking you out of his apartment. Joe's apartment is a PRIVATE forum, Joe isn't the government, and he is within his rights to place limits on what can happen in his living room. That is NOT censorship. And that's analagous to what was happening in the other threads here.

I've already explained why I locked the threads I did. They were WAY too out of control. Folks are welcome to discuss the topics that were being raised; they simply need to do so more civilly, without the nastiness and name-calling. I'm sorry if you can't understand that, but it isn't censorship.

queencallipygos wrote: [quote=annoyed][quote=queencallipygos][quote=guru]END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.
ORLY?
Then why did i just see posts about "poor black people suck" on the prospect heights board? Please explain.

I'm not a mod, so I can't say for certain, but perhaps they don't know about it yet. Couldn't hurt to send one a PM to ask them for sure -- if they don't know, I'm sure they'd appreciate the heads-up.

Um, exactly. Believe it or not, the mods and admins are not omnipresent. I'll go try to find this thread over on the PH board.

Jeebus, WAY too many people are home in a pissy mood with too much time on their hands today.

annoyed wrote: [quote=queencallipygos][quote=guru]END THE CENSORSHIP ON BROOKLYNIAN IN YOUR LIFETIME!

I don't believe the mods are trying to instill censorship. I think they're trying to encourage civility.
ORLY?
Then why did i just see posts about "poor black people suck" on the prospect heights board? Please explain.
Link?