Loud Outdoor Party last night on Park Place

I'm just trying to get a sense of what is reasonable. Last night, some neighbors of ours held a loud outdoor dance party in their backyard until after 1 am. It woke our baby up, who could not fall back asleep with the thumping bass, loud bhangra tunes and revelers' screams. Ultimately, we had to move him into our bedroom so that he could get back to sleep (after several hours of crying). Our calls to 311 were unavailing--apparently, the police "could not gain access to the premises to act on the complaint." This has happened once before, about a year ago. Is this something we just have to put up with "because it's not the suburbs", or is there something we can do (e.g., try to talk to them or write them a letter--not that we expect to persuade them if they are having such a party in the first place)?

Whatever you do, DON'T write a letter. Letters come off as passive aggressive no matter how nice and friendly you mean them to be. If it is really a problem, try to find the host and start being friendly on a day to day basis. Then, after the next party, knock on their door and let them know you have a baby and ask if they can wrap things up before 1am on fridays or saturdays. Take the high road and don't make it sound like "do this or else".

311? Forget that! Call the local precinct directly, and don't wait until 1 AM to do it.

I've called the 77 about parties at 10:30 PM and gotten results.

I know this isn't the suburbs but even there loud parties into the wee hours of the morning don't fly.

gracious, 1 AM on a saturday night? man the fuck up.

The baby, too? :roll:

young snitch wrote: gracious, 1 AM on a saturday night? man the fuck up.

Do you have any compassion for this parent, Young Snitch? You must not be a parent. Try putting a child back to sleep after it's been awoken by loud noise and see how it feels.

And what about the old people, young people and middle age people that live in those group of buildings?

They should, What was your words?

"Man the Fuck up."

I created natural selection for people just like you.

Please evolve Young Snitch or go the way of the dinosaurs.

personally if any loud party goes beyond 11pm call the cops. don't be nice don't write letters and other bs. if you can throw water balloons at them from a far do it.

the site never ceases to amaze and depress me. the consensus seems to be that it's better to end an entire party at 1AM on a saturday night by calling the police than have a single child up past it's precious bedtime. then the cretin above says that 11pm is his cut off hour for snitching and throwing water balloon (an activity which he'd no doubt advocate arrest for, if it was done by teenagers).

prospect heights: welcome to the douche zoo.

Young Douche, we are talking about a reasonable level of music not completely shutting down a party. You must have learned your debating tactics from Fox News.

MOD NOTE: can we all try to continue this discussion without name-calling?

young snitch, I grew up in Bed-Stuy and used to throw backyard parties at my folks house all the time. They had some rules which I always followed

1) No oversized amplification
2) No DJ on the mike (he was paid to play music, not talk)
3) We could make as much noise as we wanted to until 1am. Then we had to turn the level of the music down and start to transition into slow jams and softer fare with no thumping bass

There are just as many black folks who have jobs and have to get up for work or for church on a Sunday. And there's a lot of leeway between the windows vibrating and shutting down a party. Don't make it seem like black folks think that its okay to be rude to their neighbors or that the only the newcomers care about are disturbed about the noise.

Waaaaaaa no fun no fun my baby needs to sleep. If you want to raise you child in a quiet enviroment. MOVE

young snitch, if you want to go play super loud music go play it in a zoo. i'm sure the animals there wouldn't like it.

young snitch wrote: the site never ceases to amaze and depress me. the consensus seems to be that it's better to end an entire party at 1AM on a saturday night by calling the police than have a single child up past it's precious bedtime. then the cretin above says that 11pm is his cut off hour for snitching and throwing water balloon (an activity which he'd no doubt advocate arrest for, if it was done by teenagers).

prospect heights: welcome to the douche zoo.

This is why we need a draft in this country, To thin out the herds of Young Snitches out there that have grown up thinking that this is their world and they can do anything they want. My God! "Me" :twisted:

Young Snitch,

I ask again - why the AK as your avatar? He'd have you hung or shot for playing music and partying past 1 am. Is this irony?

And what's up with the baby hating? You were once a baby who needed sleep. The adults who cared for you needed sleep in order to keep taking care of you. People can have parties without wreaking havoc on others' lives.

GOD wrote:
This is why we need a draft in this country, To thin out the herds of Young Snitches out there that have grown up thinking that this is their world and they can do anything they want. My God! "Me" :twisted:

It's rare that I agree with you, YHWH, but this time you hit the nail on the head. The Young Snitches of the world need to understand that they belong and that they're part of something bigger. Something like the surge in Baghdad. The sweet smell of sacrifice.

Subject: Re: Loud Outdoor Party last night on Park Place

Sterling123 wrote: I'm just trying to get a sense of what is reasonable.

To answer this question IMHO, I would say that an occasionally loud party on the weekend winding down by 1am (or at least getting considerably quieter) would be reasonable. Pounding parties four times a week until 4am would not be reasonable. Ones like that even once a week would not be reasonable. Stuff in between becomes more gray.

The OP said this happened ONCE BEFORE A YEAR AGO! Come on people, if your neighbors cannot have an annual party that ends at 1 a.m. then I'm afraid that YOU are the neighbor from hell, not them! This is not little house on the praire.

I wouldnt be happy with anything more than once a month though.

Some of yall need to recognize that there's wide leeway between "ending the party" and not playing thumping bass that can be heard in bedrooms down the block.

You all live in close proximity, respect one another. Have a party all night, just don't blast music (or specifically bass) that permeates everyone's apartment.

Subject: Reasonable

I can understand both points of view. I do agree that it is very difficult to get a baby back to sleep after it has woken up and that a good solution is to bring it into another room away from the noise.

Simultaneously, I also agree that it is not a terrible thing to, once a year, throw a party that is loud, within reason. On a Saturday night, 1am shouldn't be too bad but starting to turn things down around 11:30 to be respectful of other neighbors is not too much to ask.

It seems that PH is suffering a little from the changes in the population in the area. I'd guess these are some growing pains. When we have a party, we let our neighbors know and invite them.

It is part of city life to have to live with a certain level of noise. Brooklyn isn't the suburbs and Manhattanites have to deal with this all the time, too.

When we've had loud parties in the past, we have tried to quiet it down around 11pm or so. We also walked around to our neighbors before the party to warn/invite them. Having said that, I would say that an annual loud party winding down around 1am is reasonable. Sorry about your little one. Move in with me in Crown Heights, at least one of the two weekend nights, often both, we get sirens and hollering up and down the street that wakes up the kids. On the plus side, they seem to be getting immune to it as time goes on. Or at least able to sleep through or fall right back.

Sterling, would you be willing to have your baby sleep in another room for one night a year so that your neighbors can have their party? I don't have a kid but that seems reasonable to me.

If you're not willing to do this, then of course you should talk to them. It seems like they have an annual party and that they think that 1 AM is a reasonable time. Someone blasting bhangra music does not seem likely to be threatening if you talk to them... you should just let them know that you're not happy.

I once had an upstairs neighbor confront me, he was really angry about how the music I would play in my room while going to sleep had been keeping him awake for the past 8 months. Needless to say, I never imagined that he could hear it. It's my opinion that the previous 8 months were his fault, not mine - he could have come down at any time and I would have turned the music right off.

Another thing: A true house party doesnt end at 11pm, it gets started at 11p.m.!

A gathering of friends? Well, that ends around 11 p.m.

young snitch wrote: the site never ceases to amaze and depress me. the consensus seems to be that it's better to end an entire party at 1AM on a saturday night by calling the police than have a single child up past it's precious bedtime. then the cretin above says that 11pm is his cut off hour for snitching and throwing water balloon (an activity which he'd no doubt advocate arrest for, if it was done by teenagers).

prospect heights: welcome to the douche zoo.

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Point and case with the changes in population in PH.

GOD and ba'al:

you need to reevaluate which party is the selfish and inconsiderate neighbor: the fifty people having an annual party or the individual who calls the police because a solitary baby can't sleep. living in a community that doesn't tolerate an occasional noisy house party is a sad, sad place. let's call this cold, fearful location "brooklynia" -- we can start by removing all the stoops in front of buildings (they just lead to scary and bothersome congregating by undesirable residents).

Maybe it's not a matter of selfishness but a matter of accommodation on both parts.

Having carefully read the entire thread, and having considered the arguments of both sides, the jury has reached a verdict and sides with plaintiff CRANKY BABY, on the grounds that free and reasonable citizens should be able to assemble, celebrate, and get drunk within appropriate and considerate levels of noise and disturbance. We hereby require the defendant ALL PAST 1AM PARTIES to retire their subwoofers one hour past midnight, turn the racket down a notch, smoke a joint and respect your neighbors, which you lacked the consideration to invite or forewarn in the first place.

COURT IS ADJOURNED. WORD UP.

young snitch wrote: GOD and ba'al:

you need to reevaluate which party is the selfish and inconsiderate neighbor: the fifty people having an annual party or the individual who calls the police because a solitary baby can't sleep. living in a community that doesn't tolerate an occasional noisy house party is a sad, sad place. let's call this cold, fearful location "brooklynia" -- we can start by removing all the stoops in front of buildings (they just lead to scary and bothersome congregating by undesirable residents).

you're trolling. got it.

carry on.

I am completely sympathetic with original poster and I don't even have children. If everyone had their party once a year, it would be loud ALL the time. We had a similar instance in Crown Heights, a few blocks away, and it wrecked me for two days. Although ours was thumping base till 4a.m. We, and our neighbors, called the police multiple times, we watched the police pull up to the house, speak to someone standing outside and drive-off. It was so loud, that my husband and I had to raise our voices to be heard in our bedroom (with the A/C on). AND, two of our neighbors who have lived here for 30 years agreed, it was ridiculous. It makes me crazy.

bojolais wrote: I am completely sympathetic with original poster and I don't even have children. If everyone had their party once a year, it would be loud ALL the time. We had a similar instance in Crown Heights, a few blocks away, and it wrecked me for two days. Although ours was thumping base till 4a.m. We, and our neighbors, called the police multiple times, we watched the police pull up to the house, speak to someone standing outside and drive-off. It was so loud, that my husband and I had to raise our voices to be heard in our bedroom (with the A/C on). AND, two of our neighbors who have lived here for 30 years agreed, it was ridiculous. It makes me crazy.

MOVE TO CROWN HEIGHTS, COMPLAIN ABOUT BUMPIN' BASS AT NIGHT?

NEXT TRICK FOR YOU: GET A VACATION HOME AT THE END OF THE JFK RUNWAY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT TOO.

HINT: THE NOISE WAS THERE BEFORE YOU WERE. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD A HIGH FLOOR LUXURY APARTMENT DON'T BLAME OTHERS.

NO, Flaily, that's not how it works. There are great hard-working people in Crown Heights who don't like loud BUMPIN BASS at 4 a.m. It's disrespectful no matter where it is. I don't want a hig-floor luxury apartment. I want my beautiful brownstone and mostly wonderful neighbors. I do not BLAME anyone. I hold each and every person individually responsible. My neighbor told us we weren't sweeping up enough in front of our house during Fall. And you know what? We started sweeping up more often and sweeping in front of her house too.