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Summer is here- first shooting of the season

homeowner
homeowner
edited May 2014 in Crown Heights/Prospect Lefferts Gardens
About 6:45 this morning  on Park Place and Nostrand in front of the women's entrance to the mosque. The victim was shot in the leg and the police showed up after about 10 minutes. A couple of good samaritans came by and tied a tourniquet on his leg to stop the bleeding until the police and ambulance came.

I heard he was approached in front of the store by a guy, but its not clear how they got across the street or why he was shot. There was an after hours party at Secrets, so these might have been folks who started something in there, then brought it out on the street. The ambulance carted him off by 7:30.

Be safe people. 
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  • newguy88
    newguy88
    I'm out of town so I missed this. However, secrets seems to attract a rought crowd. I also suspect they stay open past 4 am. I've seen people getting into fights in front of it around 6:30.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Despite a decrease in frequency, an uptick in shootings does seem to mean that summer has arrived.

    I wonder if there will be few enough to maintain just one thread, that we update as the season goes on.

    I hope so.
  • newguy88
    newguy88
    I suspect at least in Western Crown Heights this will be a better summer.
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    Detectives are canvassing the neighborhood and said that the reason the bus was on the corner was because two other boys (one of whom was only 16) were shot on Nostrand near the front of the mosque a few weeks ago. I wonder if there is yet another minor turf battle underway?
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    In my mind, "turf worth being fought over" usually (but not always) means that the turf is income producing.

    In my view, the drug trade on Nostrand meets that criteria; It is still pretty vibrant.

    It is a little more discreet than it was in prior years, but a trained eye can still see it going on during the daylight hours.
  • prospectnostrand
    prospectnostrand
    I can confirm that Secrets is open that late, at least 6AM most weekend nights.

    They serve "breakfast" so they are open for the breakfast crowd.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    The North Bronx seems to having a surge in violence, along with speculation regarding the causes:

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/05/19/nyregion/killings-surge-in-north-bronx-testing-new-police-tactics.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0&referrer=

    It seems like all of the regular factors are present, complete with commenters who want to blame the reduction in Stop and Frisk.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited May 2014
    Via NYPD:

    "Police are looking for the gunman who shot a 34-year-old man in the leg early Sunday morning in Crown Heights.

    According to police, the victim was shot once in the left leg in front of 837 Park Place between Nostrand and New York avenues at around 6:24am.

    The victim was taken to Kings County Hospital where he was treated for his injuries.

    The shooter’s identity is unknown, and he remains at large. Detectives are investigating.

    Anyone with information that can lead to the arrest of the person responsible for the shooting, please contact the 77th Pct Detective Squad at 718-735-0662, or call CRIME STOPPERS at 800-577-TIPS for a reward up to $2,000 for an anonymous tip that can lead to the arrest and indictment of a violent felon."
  • crownheightster
    crownheightster
    From reading these posts, it sounds like it is an open "secret" that Secrets causes some problems. Is there anything we can do to get more of a police presence on that corner? A few afternoons in the past week, I have noticed that there is a beat cop hanging out on the corner of Park and Nostrand, but that does not address the early morning issues. Can the Community Board be helpful, or is it solely to the Precinct that you must complain about your unhappiness with the summer violence?
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    One does not have to utilize solely the 77th Pct to complain.

    CB8 will receive such complaints and could bring them to the Pct, or the SLA: http://www.brooklyncb8.org/contactus.php

    One could also contact the SLA directly: http://www.sla.ny.gov/register-a-complaint

    Note, summer violence in NYC is not always driven by a bar breaking the SLA rules. Therefore, the above entities aren't going to necessarily put a lot of attention on Secrets. A pattern needs to be established.
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    Also, Secrects doesn't seem to be open on any particular schedule. There are weekends that it is shuttered and then it will be open only Friday and Saturday nights for a week or two. Over the years I've thought they were out of business several times only to have them operating again on the next big holiday weekend.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    Yes, it strikes me as mostly being a special events venue.    One of those pop up clubs that markets itself via glossy postcards that I am never handed, and via media that I do not frequent.

    (note, music autoplays when you click)

    ....one of those places that open up on Friday night about the same time I am going to bed.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    It looks like the area around Nostrand had a shooting tonight as well:


    6/2/2014 10:14 p.m.|-73.9471364,40.6759616| Shooting |POLICE| 1120 Bergen St & New York Ave <br> Brooklyn, NY|BROOKLYN * SHOOTING* (77 PCT) 1120 BERGEN ST & NEW YORK AVE. PD O/S WITH A MALE SHOT, NOT LIKELY. REQ EMS. MNS493   (c) [MNS225]|1401761641|MNS
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    BTW, I've decided to compile all of the shootings in the 77th Pct that I become aware of on this thread:   http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/comment/548604#Comment_548604

    I'll list them there regardless of where they happen within the pct.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    @homeowner

    It looks like you were spot on with your suspicion that the May 18th shooting was linked to Secrets.

    A bouncer is under arrest. The police are going to try to close it as a result of this incident, and many other complaints:

    http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140613/crown-heights/police-seek-close-nightclub-after-bouncer-is-arrested-for-shooting
  • crownheightster
    crownheightster
    I'm always sorry to see a business go under, but I admit, I will be happy when Secrets finally closes its doors. If this is how your bouncer behaves...
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    When it first opened in 2007, it served meals and readers really seemed to like it:

    http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/39465/secrets-restaurant-opens-at-last-on-nostrand-park-plprosp-/p1

    Over time, it seems to have become exclusively a nightclub - private events space.
  • newguy88
    newguy88
    Did anyone else hear the fireworks or gunshots followed by shouting somewhere around Park and New York around midnight tonight? I heard a couple sirens and an ambulance just flew by my window. So I'm inclined to believe gunshots. Anyone else hear or see anything?
  • greg
    greg
    Yep, pretty sure those were gun shots. I saw one man (seemingly innocent bystander) taking cover behind a van, another individual running towards the shooting, and then one or two other people walking towards that direction.
  • newguy88
    newguy88
    Summer is truly hear isn't? 
  • tateinbk
    tateinbk
    I just heard them quite clearly, but the sirens seemed much further off.  
  • tateinbk
    tateinbk
    Here's a different one I'm assuming.  
    500 St Johns Place Crime scene being established in regards to a male shot, EMS requested on a rush.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    Summer is truly hear isn't? 
    There is some sad irony in spelling it "hear".
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    @newguy88
    @greg
    @tateinbk

    You likely heard the shots that killed this guy, around midnight last night:

    http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20140616/crown-heights/man-shot-death-crown-heights-fdny-says

    926 Prospect Place

    The police probably were called by several people, but weren't able to determine the source last night....

    I have added it to the shooting compilation thread: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/38855/let039s-talk-about-the-violence-in-eastern-crown-heights#Item_65
  • tateinbk
    tateinbk
    It would have helped if the downstairs tenants had called since they could categorically determine where the shots were coming from.  It seems unlikely that I would have heard gun shots that happened in a kitchen blocks away though.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    It seems like greg and newguy may live closer to the location than you.

    The neighbors not calling to police may be due to:

    A. People thinking that others called.

    B. People not wanting the police indiscreetly knock on their door, and say "you reported gunshots, we found a guy shot. Did you see anyone run away?"

    C. Lots of other reasons.
  • greg
    greg
    What I heard sounded much closer to me (on Park Place) than something inside a house on the opposite side of the block. It could certainly be related, for example a retaliation for earlier shootings.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2014
    I won't try to tell you what you heard.

    ...but will say that gunshots are very loud, and (given that it was a nice summer night) the deceased and you may both have had your windows open.
  • nothinlikeabklyngirl
    nothinlikeabklyngirl
    I'm assuming that was also the cause of the chopper that was hovering this morning around 9am.
  • newguy88
    newguy88
    @whynot31 thats possible. 

    The real question becomes why didn't the neighbors who must have heard it not call 911? I don't get not wanting to get involved. It happened in your building your already involved!