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Today's article on real estate in Crown Heights

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  • St_Teresa
    St_Teresa
  • crownheightster
    crownheightster
    Last time the NYTimes folks were all about Franklin. Now they feature a picture of NOSTRAND!
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    We have all become used to neighborhoods around the country being pumped as "the next Brooklyn".

    The phenomena now seems to be being applied to things that are not even real estate.

    "They conclude that value stocks could be as up and coming as Brooklyn neighborhoods like Bushwick, Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights."

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/29/investing/value-stocks-to-buy/

    They are not talking to a Brooklyn audience.    OMG.
  • eastbloc
    eastbloc
    Maybe that is just really good targeted advertising.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    maybe.

    ...but my suspicion is just targeting people who feel they have so far missed out on the Brooklyn boom.

  • mugofmead111
    mugofmead111
    We have all become used to neighborhoods around the country being pumped as "the next Brooklyn".

    The phenomena now seems to be being applied to things that are not even real estate.

    "They conclude that value stocks could be as up and coming as Brooklyn neighborhoods like Bushwick, Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights."

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/29/investing/value-stocks-to-buy/

    They are not talking to a Brooklyn audience.    OMG.
    If the New York Times is late, then CNN is even later. LOL
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited June 2015
    The NYT and CNN make me feel young and hip.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    The neighborhood of Weeksville is defined
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/once-forgotten-weeksville-area-stirs-in-brooklyn-1436522402

    Utica Avenue begins selling fruits and vegetables lit up like jewelry?    


  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    This article in today's NYT is a slight change of pace in that it talks about those leaving Crown Heights, as opposed to those moving into it:

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/nyregion/gentrification-in-a-brooklyn-neighborhood-forces-residents-to-move-on.html
  • mike dunlap
    mike dunlap
    edited November 2015
    With a backyard and a car, she has found life in Virginia affordable and pleasant, but “extremely boring,” she said.
    And that is sadly the usual trade-off in this country.  Better schools, affordability, etc. often require a move to extremely boring places in this mostly suburban, mostly boring country.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    edited December 2015

    We might have a writer for Vice living in Crown Heights.   http://www.vice.com/read/hw-what-makes-a-neighborhood-hip

    He thinks we are cool.  

  • laura palmer
    laura palmer
    for those who wish to read it, you can google search the headline to get around the paywall (referrals from google are exempt) 

  • Flatfix
    Flatfix
    Look at the comments to this article. True words. Franklin-centric and reads like an real estate ad.
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    The article (and apartments mentioned) match the preferences and means of the publication: WSJ.

    There is no need to describe the aspects of the neighborhood readers are not interested in...
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/realestate/priced-out-of-my-childhood-home.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

    I suspect these stories keep getting published because they are so easy to write.
  • Dawndew
    Dawndew
    these stories' summaries are too easy. For in stance:why didn't this girl 's family buy a house if" it was so unnoticed by the wealthy"? And what the heck does that mean anyway? She obviously wants to come back because it has gotten better not because it is still drug infested. Dope journalism.
  • crownheightster
    crownheightster
    I feel for people like the star of the article, but my sympathy is limited. 
  • whynot_31
    whynot_31
  • Flatfix
    Flatfix
    Everyone in articles such as this use the phrase "deep roots" when referring to the Carribean community. How long has it been honestly? Since the 1950's?
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    Wrong. The "great migration" of Blacks occurred following WWI. But even prior to that time Blacks had established communities in Brooklyn. From the "discovery" of America through the founding of New Amsterdam there were large populations of enslaved blacks in the county. Most of those remained in the county when NY abolished slavery finally in 1827.

    "Between World War I and the 1930s, thousands of southern Blacks filtered into Brooklyn's neighborhoods. They were among the hundreds of thousands who moved to northern cities during the "Great Migration," and by 1930, more than 60% of the African Americans in Brooklyn had been born outside the borough. When the A train was extended from Harlem to Brooklyn in 1936, thousands of African Americans left Harlem in search of better lives and less expensive housing. Thousands of Puerto Rican immigrants also settled in Brooklyn. The trip from Puerto Rico took five days by steamship, but offered an alternative to the poverty and limitations of the tiny island. Puerto Ricans settled in Red Hook, downtown Brooklyn, and Greenpoint, and many found jobs in the needle trades and cigar factories."


    "As Kings County’s agricultural economy expanded during the eighteenth century, farmers and landowners like the Leffertses became even more reliant on enslaved labor. In 1698, 15% of Kings County residents were of African descent, and virtually all were enslaved. By 1738, that figure had risen to 25%. In 1790, that number rose again: African Americans accounted for over 30% of Kings County’s population; most were enslaved. In that same year, the population of the town of Flatbush included 378 enslaved people, 12 free black people, and 551 white people – 75% of whom were slaveholders.

    As these numbers attest, even after the Revolutionary War, when notions of freedom and liberty permeated the American consciousness, Kings County remained a committed slave society. The area’s farmers relied on enslaved labor for their agricultural needs, even while slavery was on the decline in other parts of New York State.

    Like virtually all wealthy families in Flatbush, the Leffertses owned significant numbers of slaves, and engaged in the trade, sale, and purchase of enslaved people up until emancipation was enacted in New York in 1827. Few sources exist on the personal details or experiences of Brooklyn’s enslaved population, especially before the American Revolution. But the dozens of bills of sale and indentures in the Lefferts family papers provide the names, ages, and other information about the enslaved men and women that helped build Brooklyn."


    "The journey of Afro-Caribbean peoples to the United States started long ago, when enslaved Barbadians were taken by their British owners to South Carolina during the seventeenth century. Indeed, most of the earliest Africans to arrive in what would become the United States were seasoned men, women, and children from the Caribbean.

    This first involuntary migration was followed by a large influx of people from the British West Indies at the turn of the twentieth century. A third wave of immigrants arrived between 1930 and 1965, and a fourth movement is still going on today. 

    The dispersal of Caribbean people was facilitated by a remarkable network of transportation. Since the seventeenth century Bridgetown, Barbados, had served as the first port of call for British ships crossing the Atlantic. By the beginning of the twentieth century, shipping networks extended from Bridgetown to all parts of the world. It was therefore not just the intolerable conditions on Barbados or the opportunity for work abroad that resulted in the extraordinary migrant stream from the island. An indispensable element was its working class's unique access to relatively cheap transportation to a variety of different points across the globe.

    Jamaica also benefited from an extensive shipping network. At the end of the nineteenth century, this was augmented by the development of the banana trade between the United States and what would become the United Fruit Company. Its banana ships always made room for passengers. Boston was their first port of call; later New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, and other ports were added. This facilitated greater and cheaper access for immigrants from the island to the U.S."


  • Flatfix
    Flatfix
    Thanks @homeowner great detail! I'm Interested in Crown Hieghts rather than all of Brooklyn. Since the article whynot mentioned said CH. Weeksville goes way back to slavery.
  • homeowner
    homeowner
    Weeksville does, but you should also do some research on Pigtown, another local community of color which was in the area we now thing of as either Crown Heights South or PLG (depending on who you talk to). Pigtown included all of those poor immigrants that were originally not considered white including Africans, Italians, and Irish. My point was simply that there has always been a pretty significant community of color in the borough and among the black community the majority of those folks can trace their heritage directly or indirectly through the path of the African Diaspora to the Caribbean.  
  • yesbrooklyn
    yesbrooklyn
    @flatfix CH was an old jewish neighborhood.  Not like the Lubavitch, more secular.  I have a bunch of jewish relatives who lived in CH in the teens, 20s, and 30s, 40s