Boeuf & Bun (Kingston and Lincoln) gets its own thread.

271 Kingston
Crown Heights

We jabbered about the construction of this kosher burger and beer place on this general thread about new businesses on Kingston: http://www.brooklynian.com/discussion/comment/557319#Comment_557319

But now that this place is about to open and people are salivating, let's talk about it on this thread.

Here are the basics:
A. It is expected to open any day now and has already received some press: http://www.koshertopia.com/blog/news/bouef-bun-opening-crown-heights.html

B. It will have burgers and BEER. As of Jan 22, the beer lic. is still in pending status:
http://www.trans.abc.state.ny.us/servlet/ApplicationServlet?pageName=com.ibm.nysla.data.publicquery.PublicQuerySuccessfulResultsPage&validated=true&serialNumber=1281898&licenseType=RW

Readers who have not eaten at a kosher establishment should be advised of the following:
1. Don't try to eat here on a Friday evening or on Saturday.
2. Don't attempt to have your burger come with cheese and/or bacon.

Some friends were invited to the soft opening last night. Personally, I hate going to new establishments before they iron out all the kinks. I'll actually wait about 3-4 months to try it.

Update: picture removed at the request of those pictured.

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And suddenly, I'm soooo hungry.

Readers who have not eaten at a kosher establishment should be advised of the following:
1. Don't try to eat here on a Friday evening or on Saturday.
2. Don't attempt to have your burger come with cheese and/or bacon.

It will likely be open Saturday night however, at least in the winter.

Maybe this will help:

On Friday nights, observant jews are like most children under 12 years old in that they must BE IN as soon as the sun is about to go down.

On Saturday nights, observant jews are like vampires in that they COME OUT once it gets dark.

...other similarities between the above groups are not implied, nor should they be inferred.

Maybe this will help:

On Saturday nights, observant jews are like vampires in that they COME OUT once it gets dark.

On Friday nights, observant jews are like most children under 12 year old in that they must BE IN as soon as the sun is about to go down.

...other similarities between the above groups are not implied, nor should they be inferred.

As far is business is concerned, that is.  You will see them around the neighborhood.

You might hear them talking about a lamp that isn't working as programmed.

They may seem to be having a moral crisis regarding whether to fix the lamp on Saturday or wander around in the dark.

http://www.amazon.com/KosherLamp-Max-Kosher-Lamp-Shabbos/dp/B003I7ID9C

hmm, I wonder if they allow BYOC

Bring your own chutzpah?

Bring your own cocaine?

Bring your own camel?

Bring your own Christian?

Bring your own conquistador?

I kid, but what's BYOC?

I think @vaportrail is referring to cheese.

And the answer would be no, a definite no.

Yes, "bring your own cheese".

...which would be not allowed because dairy and meat can't be in the same restaurant.

Even if some goy is to blame.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goy

Gotcha. As a half-goy, half-Jew religious bastard I should have known that.  I blame my shiksa mother. ;-)

So does this mean I CAN bring some conquistadors, camels, Christians, and cocaine with me?

Camels are not allowed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods

That burger looks so nekkid without cheese.
Speaking of, is there a dress code?

Gotcha. As a half-goy, half-Jew religious bastard I should have known that.  I blame my shiksa mother. ;-)

So does this mean I CAN bring some conquistadors, camels, Christians, and cocaine with me?

Yes, all of those are permitted from a kosher perspective, assuming the camel alive (camel meat, however, is not as @whynot_31 noted).  Chutzpah is allowed too.

And no particular dress code.  I plan on visiting in jeans and a pullover.

SEVENTEEN dollar burgers WITHOUT cheese in East Crown Heights?!?!?!   

Kosher food is often more expensive than non-kosher food as a result of the fee paid to the certifying entity.

For example, few people go to Basil (on Kingston and Lincoln) who are driven by price. One could get almost exactly the same dinner and service at Barbachino (Franklin and Lincoln) for less $.

Yes, of course cheese! I was just wondering if it would be ok if their kitchen was not a party to the kosher violation. But bringing in outside ingredients is probably considered very strange any where, and probably offensive here. 

I think one is supposed to always bring your own chutzpah!

Sweet!  I'll bring the chutzpah!  I'm vegan, so there will be no bringing of dead camels.  I actually used to live up the block on Kingston, so I know that area well.  I honestly doubt I'll go there though.  It's out of my way, and not exactly brimming with vegan options.  Nice to see some more options for the folks who live around there though.

I have no doubt that this place will be packed, much like Basil is, but I also don't know how often those of us who are non-Kosher will frequent it. I've been to Basil exactly once, and I didn't mind the price because it was a special occasion and it was nice to have someplace nice to eat that was within walking distance. I'm sure I'll check out Boeuf & Buns as well. The pics look good, and those onion rings are calling me! But I'm not regularly going to pay $17 for a burger, especially one w/o cheese. The development on Kingston seems to have no middle ground. You can get a burger at Church's Fried Chicken or at the bodega, or you can get an "artisanal burger lab" burger here -- but nothing in between.      

What bothers me most about the prices here is the "Boeuf and no Bun" option -- any burger served with lettuce rather than with a bun is a +$2 extra charge. I mean!

Yah @laura palmer  - a fifteen to TWENTY dollar burger without a bun or cheese - and it looks like fries are an additional cost on top of that. When hell freezes over... 

...and don't forget the 15% service charge added to ALL checks! It's actually pretty progressive of them to do that, but it will suck for the servers who probably won't see a 20% tip as a result. 

Vaportrail, it's not so much that brining in cheese would be offensive here (which it indeed would be!), but it is also against kosher laws. A kosher restaurant can be either meat or dairy, but not both! If B&B were to even serve coffee with milk, it would no longer be kosher. To maintain their kosher certification, no outside food is permitted either here, at Basil's, or any other kosher establishment.

As to the prices, they are steep, I agree. I doubt I will go there on a regular basis. I actually prefer a plain burger with some grilled onions on a bun, but without all kinds of crap over it. The onion rings will probably call me, but at 8 bucks an order, I will also most probably resist. 

If you want a good size kosher burger nearby, go across EP to Mendy's. The atmosphere is not the same, for sure, and I doubt there's any alcohol, but the burger is cheaper, is still kosher, is available in two sizes, and comes with fries ... but still no cheese.

a $17 burger joint with no cheese? round here? good luck with that one.....

I think Boeuf and Bun will do well.

It will merely serve the segment of the population that has the means and preferences.

...preferences include Kosher certification.

Brownstoner: Kosher Burger Joint Opens on Kingston Avenue in Crown Heights - http://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2015/02/kosher-burger-joint-opens-on-kingston-avenue-in-crown-heights/

Ice cream for dessert? Cannot be real ice cream (would not be kosher in an establishment serving meat)... Must be ersatz ice cream

They're off to a good start. When I passed it last Wednesday and Thursday evenings and also last night (all between 8 and 10 pm), they were full ... as in people standing waiting for tables. Even on Sunday at around 5:30 pm, they had diners at half the tables.

Vaportrail, it's not so much that brining in cheese would be offensive here (which it indeed would be!), but it is also against kosher laws. A kosher restaurant can be either meat or dairy, but not both! If B&B were to even serve coffee with milk, it would no longer be kosher. To maintain their kosher certification, no outside food is permitted either here, at Basil's, or any other kosher establishment.

As to the prices, they are steep, I agree. I doubt I will go there on a regular basis. I actually prefer a plain burger with some grilled onions on a bun, but without all kinds of crap over it. The onion rings will probably call me, but at 8 bucks an order, I will also most probably resist. 

If you want a good size kosher burger nearby, go across EP to Mendy's. The atmosphere is not the same, for sure, and I doubt there's any alcohol, but the burger is cheaper, is still kosher, is available in two sizes, and comes with fries ... but still no cheese.

Thanks Morralkan. So is it still kosher to eat a burger at B&B for lunch then have pizza across the street at Basil for dinner?  What's the 'cooling off' period?