enormous building near franklin ave. shuttle stop
  • ok, what the hell is this place! You could fit a plane in there! It looks so big and mysterious. What's it for?
  • Which Franklin Ave shuttle stop?
  • This building is the future home of PHGS (Prospect Heights Gentrification Center). An experienced staff, spearheaded by a former Habitat for Humanity director, will be on hand to assist any new arrival who needs/wants it. There'll be renovation workshops, security tips, & crime victim counselling. Facility is scheduled to open sometime this Fall. Website should be up & running shortly.
  • Sounds great! Where do I send my tax-deductible donation? Also, I'd be happy to run a workshop on creative ways to evict section 8 tenants.
  • Anonymous wrote: This building is the future home of PHGS (Prospect Heights Gentrification Center). An experienced staff, spearheaded by a former Habitat for Humanity director, will be on hand to assist any new arrival who needs/wants it. There'll be renovation workshops, security tips, & crime victim counselling. Facility is scheduled to open sometime this Fall. Website should be up & running shortly.


    What address are we talking here?
  • I believe that you are referring to 1046 Dean Street, which is the amazing hulking structure on the west side of Franklin between Bergen Street and Dean.

    This site was once home to a successful brewing company. According to http://www.nyfoodmuseum.org/bkbeer.htm, it was founded in 1849 under the name "Liberger and Walter". In 1866, a brewery magnate named Christian Goetz bought the brewery and renamed it the Bedford Brewery. Eighteen years later, in 1884, Goetz sold it to a group of businessmen led by William Brown, who renamed the brewery Budweiser Brewing Company - a reference to the high quality of beer produced in Budweis, Bohemia (which, I must say, is pretty good). Anheuser-Busch, however, sued Brown for copying their name, which Anheuser had trademarked six years earlier, in 1878. Brown ultimately gave in and changed the name to the Nassau Brewing Company, and operated it under this name until 1914, when the company closed down and brewing operations ceased.

    From what I can uncover, the property has changed hands several times in the 93 years since the brewery closed down, being used mainly as a warehouse property.

    In 2002, a nonprofit community developer named CPC Resources (a subsidiary of the Community Preservation Corporation) bought the site with the intention of rezoning it and building "artists lofts" (hence the gentrification comment). CPC succeeded in getting it rezoned from a manufacturing zoning to a residential one, but CPC Resources has since bought the Domino Sugar Factory in Williamsburg as well, and has presumably found itself with its hands full with all the political problems at that site. As a result, they put 1046 Dean Street on the market at an asking price of $8 million. Last I checked the NYC Department of Finance database, it has not yet been sold.

    As a resident of the community and as someone who does community development professionally, I would love to see this site developed into affordable housing for the community with some good street-level retail. I share the concern of many on this board that as the beauty and predominant friendliness of the Crown Heights North neighborhood becomes more widely known, gentrification will pose a threat to the many moderate and low-income families living here. However, at an asking price of $8 million, I fear that it is highly unlikely that the site will turn into anything but market-rate condos.

    FYI, I am neither affiliated with CPC nor with the broker for the property, I am just a community member who became obsessed with the hugeness and history of this site. If anyone has other information on this site, I'd love to hear it.
  • Pierpont wrote: I believe that you are referring to 1046 Dean Street, which is the amazing hulking structure on the west side of Franklin between Bergen Street and Dean.

    This site was once home to a successful brewing company. According to http://www.nyfoodmuseum.org/bkbeer.htm, it was founded in 1849 under the name "Liberger and Walter". In 1866, a brewery magnate named Christian Goetz bought the brewery and renamed it the Bedford Brewery. Eighteen years later, in 1884, Goetz sold it to a group of businessmen led by William Brown, who renamed the brewery Budweiser Brewing Company - a reference to the high quality of beer produced in Budweis, Bohemia (which, I must say, is pretty good). Anheuser-Busch, however, sued Brown for copying their name, which Anheuser had trademarked six years earlier, in 1878. Brown ultimately gave in and changed the name to the Nassau Brewing Company, and operated it under this name until 1914, when the company closed down and brewing operations ceased.

    From what I can uncover, the property has changed hands several times in the 93 years since the brewery closed down, being used mainly as a warehouse property.

    In 2002, a nonprofit community developer named CPC Resources (a subsidiary of the Community Preservation Corporation) bought the site with the intention of rezoning it and building "artists lofts" (hence the gentrification comment). CPC succeeded in getting it rezoned from a manufacturing zoning to a residential one, but CPC Resources has since bought the Domino Sugar Factory in Williamsburg as well, and has presumably found itself with its hands full with all the political problems at that site. As a result, they put 1046 Dean Street on the market at an asking price of $8 million. Last I checked the NYC Department of Finance database, it has not yet been sold.

    As a resident of the community and as someone who does community development professionally, I would love to see this site developed into affordable housing for the community with some good street-level retail. I share the concern of many on this board that as the beauty and predominant friendliness of the Crown Heights North neighborhood becomes more widely known, gentrification will pose a threat to the many moderate and low-income families living here. However, at an asking price of $8 million, I fear that it is highly unlikely that the site will turn into anything but market-rate condos.

    FYI, I am neither affiliated with CPC nor with the broker for the property, I am just a community member who became obsessed with the hugeness and history of this site. If anyone has other information on this site, I'd love to hear it.


    Thanks for this info. I knew about the plan to develop artists' lofts, which would presumably be affordable for working artists/students, but hadn't heard that the plans fell through. I suspected as such, since the For Sale sign went up. It is an amazing structure, and it would be great to see it become something for the whole community. A week or two ago, I did see a crane in one of the smaller side buildings on Dean at the site, perhaps doing some work there (it was the building right next to the renovated ice house on Dean--the one that looks like a one-storied garage next to the two clapboard gray houses). I have also seen some amount of construction activity on the Bergen Street side (the old Monti Storage part) over the past year or so--maybe they are getting ready for a sale.
  • ....and, four years later, I have heard what I believe to be a reliable rumor:

    The not-so-new owner is in the process of getting plans approved that are "as of right", meaning he will not have endure hearings and community input.

    What's is he going to build?

    Market Rate Rentals.

    photo credit: http://blightingvacancy.blogspot.com/2009/12/1042-dean-street-at-franklin-ave.html


  • Too small for a Whole Foods/Trader Joe's, too big for a Starbucks. Maybe an Urban Outfitters?


  • I always dreamed of owning the building and turning it into a ..... brewery. Well, brewpub. Like a Chelsea brewery or something. Or a Brooklyn Brewery with food.


  • ^^^ OT, but I've been soooo disappointed with CB the last few times I've gone there. Sometime, maybe 3 years ago, their food quality took a turn for the worse, and it's been less worth the trip. (On top of that, it seems to be a more popular d-bag hangout, but I can't blame CB for that)


  • I fear d-bags could rent some of the new market rate apartments.

    Yes, I suspect we could get something corporate in the ground floor.

    Is it too much to ask for a reputable bank branch?


  • WhyFi said:

    ^^^ OT, but I've been soooo disappointed with CB the last few times I've gone there. Sometime, maybe 3 years ago, their food quality took a turn for the worse, and it's been less worth the trip. (On top of that, it seems to be a more popular d-bag hangout, but I can't blame CB for that)


    I agree. Super DB-y. Last time I went was with my husband and my inlaws and the table next to us had a guitar and were singing loudly to frat-boy songs. I get that we were sitting outside, but this is a restaurant!

    I only go if a) I'm already on the west side highway for some reason and want a beer or a snack OR if parents are in town and we do a crawl of breweries (walk/bus to Brooklyn Brewery, take the L to Union Square for Heartland, and then the L to 8th ave to walk up to Chelsea. While my parents and I prefer BK brewery, the inlaws prefer Chelsea since it's more "chain suburban" feeling. But it's not a chain, so I'm good with going.


  • Our understanding is that it will be studio/office space on the Bergen end leaving as much as possible of the current facade intact, the remainder of the development above street level will be rentals, there will be retail on the Franklin & Bergen ground floors. At the moment it is being developed as of right, CHCA will be meeting monthly with the developer to keep lines of communication with the community open. We feel this will be a good development for the community. There is a blurb about it on the front page of our site with a link to plans.


  • I've got to hand it to the developer, not many people are able to raise the kind of cash he is about to spend.

    If you develop condos, you get your investment back after you sell the units.

    Rentals take a really long time to pay you back, even market rate ones.

    Alma was able to pull it off with the hospital buildings, but they are a big corporation.

    I hope he is able to make some money off this plan..... I'd hate to see another half finished building in the hood.


  • Noticed some scaffolding go up on the Dean st side of the building (with the vinyl siding). Perhaps preparation for some work?

    Links:

    http://crowhillcommunity.org/projects/nassau-brewery/

    http://crowhillcommunity.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/letterunderstandingfNassauBrewery.pdf


  • I suspect that the scaffolding is up as per a DOB requirement that the pedestrians on the sidewalk need protection from any loose bricks.

    The building is in a serious state of disrepair.


  • Heads up!

    Today, 6/12/2013, workers were in the space behind the big opening with 933 above it and made a bunch of piles of the loose debris that was around.

    This building has been discussed on prior threads on Brooklynian, but lets lock those and keep this dominant one open.

  • Wasn't today June 12?


  • It was, and I've now fixed the date.

    I don't know if any of the work that was being done today involved (or required) a work permit, but man, I would love for someone to come up with some info on this much-watched site.

    This site, combined with 1000 Dean, will make a huge impact on that immediate area.

    Note, the brewery complex is actually composed of at least 8 addresses:

    943 Bergen

    947 Bergen

    1036 Dean

    1038 Dean

    1040 Dean

    1042 Dean

    1044 Dean

    1046 Dean

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyBrowseByBBLServlet?requestid=5&allborough=3&allblock=1142&alllot=48

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?requestid=2&bin=3331876

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=3330773&requestid=4

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=3330649&requestid=4

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?bin=3330650&requestid=4


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