PINTCHIK Supports Atlantic Yards / Ratner!
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Funny, I can't see any reason to boycott them.
The article says that when the 70s were hitting and people were leaving in droves, the family helped prop up the neighborhood and bought in. Thats a good thing. They aren't using eminent domain like Ratner to gain property. In fact they are operating under a sound business strategy and helping to develop the neighborhood into something that attracts people here. People have long been asking for a whole foods in brooklyn and here is someone who is looking to make that happen. The family doesnt appear to be forcing people out... there isnt a lick of insinuation that they are. But they are giving back to the neighborhood in buying ambulances and supporting the volunteer ambulance corp in park slope.
so should we now start boycotting long standing businesses that are doing well? ratner i will boycott. i'd rather just let pintchik do their thing and develop the area themselves... without forcing people to give up their property at well below market value. -
Oh, I guess you missed the part where is says, "Property records show that the company received about $4 million for the properties, at 185, 189, and 193 Flatbush Ave."
If they didn't support Atlantic Yards / Ratner, they would never have sold the properties to Atlantic Yards / Ratner. -
Didn't miss it at all. Reality is if they didnt sell it, Ratner would take it. They sold it at what is presumed to be market value. having not done an estimation myself, its a guess. sounds like your guess is they sold it based on some shady inside deal where they got more than the property value. thats a wild leap.
I am happy to see some of the real people of this neighborhood do well out of this as opposed to just the city or just ratner. He bought when Brooklyn was being abandoned. He held the property and helped to begin to revitalize it. and then when he knew it was time to sell, he did. my guess is with all that family has done here since the 1940s, they wont do an about face and become the greedy bastards you are accusing them of being.
but go ahead with your boycott. -
Subject: Re: PINTCHIK Supports Atlantic Yards / Ratner!
Loser.
Did you bother to read the article? What was your family doing over the past 70 years for the neighborhood you grew up in?
My mother and father remember Pintchik from their time in Brooklyn from the 40's through the 70's with fondness...a family that has always cared about the neighborhood through thick and thin.
What exactly do you plan to boycott? The volunteer ambulance service or their committment to building that fits with the neighborhood? The free cappuccino?
Loser.MeredithB wrote: Brooklyn Family Sitting on $100M in Property, Air Rights
BOYCOTT! -
Oh, I guess you missed the part where is says, "Property records show that the company received about $4 million for the properties, at 185, 189, and 193 Flatbush Ave."
Honestly, I don't see a boycott of Pintchik as an strategy; also, is there really a logical connection to the company's real estate sales that labels them as a supporter of Atlantic Yards?
If they didn't sell to AY/Ratner, couldn't this property have been taken from Pintchik via Eminent Domain? My intention is not to shoot holes in your conclusions—it's just that I see them as a knee-jerk reaction.
If they didn't support Atlantic Yards / Ratner, they would never have sold the properties to Atlantic Yards / Ratner. -
I agree that people have been a little quick on the draw with the calls to boycott over Atlantic Yards. I'm opposed to the project myself, but people have been getting nutty over this.
Makes me want a nice cool Brooklyn East India Pale Ale. -
Here is an interesting article from the 80s as Pintchik was trying to help start the revitalization of Flatbush. Maybe a little history of the family would help.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E4D81439F937A25752C1A964948260
Oh and in addition to supporting the EMS side of the fence, they give money to the police federation too. I'd say they have been pretty upstanding citizens. Meredith what have you done to better our neighborhood? -
Subject: Re: PINTCHIK Supports Atlantic Yards / Ratner!
elitt wrote: Loser.
Asshole.
It's alright. You support Atlantic Yards, just go ahead and admit it.
MOD NOTE: THREAD LOCKED. This is going nowhere. -
Unlocked, but please be civil. Enough with the name calling, please, Meredith, elitt, etc.
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Subject: Re: PINTCHIK Supports Atlantic Yards / Ratner!
MeredithB wrote: It's alright. You support Atlantic Yards, just go ahead and admit it.
Actually, he's defending a longtime institution from slanderous accusations, not lending his support to the Yards. One has nothing to do with the other.
I'm shocked myself that someone would harbor some kind of hostility against Pintchick and scream boycott. It makes me absolutely terrified about the so-called "hipster" invasion, because it seems more and more that a lot of the newcomers to PH and Brooklyn in general have developed strong opinions about their new location without having a good understanding of the cultural history of this area or the institutions that reside there. -
The word "Pintchik" always makes me want to pinch a pint-size chick.
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From the article: "We're in the fortuitous position of being able to hold out for people we really want to come in,"
That sounds like a family that has long-term interests in the nabe and is being smart and strategic about their properties. So they sold a few buildings to the Rat for market value. I guess everyone should fall on their sword to protest a development that is simply going to happen eventually, no matter what.
These people seem to care about PH and are using their holdings to develop amenities you and I will enjoy for the rest of our stay in the nabe.
Go ahead and Boycott them. I'll just buy twice as much. -
liftandcut wrote: The word "Pintchik" always makes me want to pinch a pint-size chick.
And to think that the term "barmaid" caused such a tizzy on these very boards last summer, and yet here's this word Pintchik being tossed around with such reckless abandon.
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jeffrey wrote: [quote=liftandcut]The word "Pintchik" always makes me want to pinch a pint-size chick.
And to think that the term "barmaid" caused such a tizzy on these very boards last summer, and yet here's this word Pintchik being tossed around with such reckless abandon.
Yeah. Way to be politically correct, people. -
My three year old calls it chinpick
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Well, basically, I love Pintchik and I support the Atlantic Yards. I hope DDDBrooklyn goes the way of the trolley (although I do wish there were still trolleys). I just posted that to stir up shit. Sorry. The sooner there is an arena built for the Brooklyn Nets to play in, for hipsters to go see concerts at, the better.
If you don't like it, and think it's ruining your neighborhood, I have one word of advice: MOVE! -
MeredithB wrote: The sooner there is an arena built for the Brooklyn Nets to play in, for hipsters to go see concerts at, the better.
PSST! Hipsters don't watch basketball and they certainly don't listen to anyone who has enough fans to fill an arena. That would make them mainstream and therefore, by definition, not hip. The arena is for concerts aimed at sheep like us. You know, the ones who don't wear skinny jeans, Converse, black leather blazers and bed head 24/7 -
MeredithB wrote: If you don't like it, and think it's ruining your neighborhood, I have one word of advice: MOVE!
i find this type of advice useless, at best. some people can't afford to move or it's not feasible to move due to job/kids in school/etc. some people have lived here for decades and don't want to move. and, if they do move, what's to say that the same sh*t won't happen in their next hood?
would you willingly take your own advice if they were planning to build something you didn't like and thought it would ruin your hood? -
homeowner wrote: PSST! Hipsters don't watch basketball and they certainly don't listen to anyone who has enough fans to fill an arena. That would make them mainstream and therefore, by definition, not hip. The arena is for concerts aimed at sheep like us. You know, the ones who don't wear skinny jeans, Converse, black leather blazers and bed head 24/7
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