verbally gay-bashed on vanderbuilt and prospect pl

apollonia666 wrote: The train was just pulling into a station, so my friend bolted and they took off after him, with my friend screaming "THIS IS NOT A PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE!" over and over.

That is fucking funny....thanks for the laugh, App. I need it today!

Subject: Sorry this happened

Hey pinkmuppet, so I'm the guy who was attacked on the subway the Saturday before the Pride March.

I'm sorry this happened to you. I appreciate your warning for gay men and lesibans to be careful around here.

I agree with some suggestions already posted here -- you might want to reach out to the AVP so they can record this. You could also read through some of the information on their site.

I think a post like yours is helpful just to get all people thinking, people of all races, genders and orientations, should think about their own emergency plan. Have your insurance card, violence hotline, the address of the emergency room you might use ready. Not to be too crazy, but this information could be very helpful in an emerency. Better safe than sorry.

A friend of mine and a guy he was dating had anti-gay slurs screamed at them by a group on a stoop while they walked down Vandy near Beast.

I hope the thread stays on topic. The people on this board were really helpful right after I was attacked. I don't get what all the LOLcats and cartoons are about.

Pro heights pink pistols chapter in order maybe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

In all seriousness though, we are reminded every day of how complex our neighborhood is .. we have a very high LGBT population, and a very large Caribbean population. And of course there are plenty of folks who overlap. Part of the real or perceived aggressive gentrification of this neighborhood is probably related to many people being priced out of Park Slope in the last 10 years and coming across Flatbush. I think this creates a little additional tension around issues of gays in the hood. And of course there is the misconception that being gay is a white thing, so I think just the presence of LGBT people around brings up issues of gentrification and racial tension. And then there's just straight up ignorant hateful homophobia.

To the OP - I'm sorry that this happened to you, but glad that you posted about it. If nothing else came out of it at least it started some dialogue here. This sucks and I'm glad you didn't get hurt. I would say, though, that we should all try to remember that there are a lot of spaces in our neighborhood where all sorts of people get along - just go to Tom's on a sat. morning, or the Brooklyn Museum for a first saturday, or Sepia to see everyone side by side. Our diversity definitely makes things difficult from time to time, but is probably ultimately our biggest asset. That being said, nobody should feel unsafe in their own space, so let's all back each other up.

I would love to have a gay/gay friendly night at one of the bars. I would be willing to go with you to Ripple. I'm just not sure that Ripple would be the best venue.

Cool! Do your thang Ms. Alafairnadia! Keep us updated. Willing to help if needed.

jayce wrote: (um... d'uh... with nails like that, she's all yours, cowboy.)

word.

Man, this is some irony. Guy gets gay-bashed by moron separatist and everyone is up in arms about the lack of tolerance and togetherness and the end result is more segregation in the form of a bar night for gays. Hilarious.

jayce wrote:
for what its worth, I got a mouth on me to get me in far worse sitches than the one you found. I was walking one day in the UES and had some construction dudes yell at me "Fu--ing Dyke!" to which I, instinctively replied "That's what your wife said this morning!"

stuff rolls out of your mouth. and sometimes its empowering. sometimes it not the smartest thing you'll do, but you live for another day. but don't let it get you too far down. This neighborhood is one of the friendliest I've been in... and i've been here before it started queerifying.

hahahahhahhahaha! omg. that's hilarious.

and I agree. my mouth, when not being used for friendly words, making out and other fun stuff, gets me into big trouble. yesterday evening, in a bar before going to see wall-e, of all things, a guy shaking a bottle of ketchup nailed a board friend's wife and myself (as well as several others, in the bar and himself) with the resulting explosion. instead of having the balls to apologize for a mistake, dude totally ignored the fact that he'd hit other folks. my little group, all women, were infuriated. one was in the bathroom cleaning up her jeans, I was wiping off my bare leg and the third was fuming right with me. finally, I couldn't take anymore of this guy being all "omg, ketchup all over MEMEMEMEMEME" so I was all "hey buddy!" and when he turned toward me I said something like "I got something for ya!" and handed him the wad of napkins that I used to clean up my legs. his confusion was palpable - he just KNEW I was trying to help him. so when I said "that's from cleaning up my legs" he got all bitchy. now, you know me, but it was also fuckin' hilarious to be there with two tiny women one of who was in the bathroom and the other was FURIOUS right along with me. so fantastic. but.

I also know that guy could have turned around and decked me for it - I probably weigh more than him so it's arguably not _that_ bad to hit a girl my size. and our guy friends aka the husbands were still on the way, so we were kinda screwed on the size/power side of bar fight scenario. in retrospect, my words & actions were probably ill-conceived and stupid. but, frankly, at that moment, had to be done.

plus I HATE the smell of ketchup.

in other words, I agree with jayce, pinkmuppet. I'd be right there with you talking back. maybe regret it, maybe not. but still. why take all the shit assholes dish?

Old Time Brooklyn wrote: Man, this is some irony. Guy gets gay-bashed by moron separatist and everyone is up in arms about the lack of tolerance and togetherness and the end result is more segregation in the form of a bar night for gays. Hilarious.

er.

the whole LBGT and FRIENDS means "straights allowed, too!" I know, that's totally shocking that people might want to be INCLUSIVE but, heck, that's not MY confusion.

for the record: I have a lot of straight friends that hang out with me at cattyshack. sometimes ... they're even without me! and zomg! how many straight folks eat, drink, and LOVE beast? oh. and their ad in go magazine reads "eat out." cheer if you get it and LOVE it.

It's still "gay night" not "people night." It's cool. We all like our respective clubs. It's just a ironic result of this thread.

With all due respect, apollonia, I disagree with the idea that this thread should stay "on topic".

Carnivore wrote: Always a funny comic, but maybe not the most appropriate for this particular thread.

Yes it is. Uber so.