stabbing at Washington Ave. and E. Pkwy

The stabbing was listed on the gothamist newsmap. Unfortunately, there's no archive of the items on the newsmap...but I definitely saw it on Monday night too.

Of course, I didn't see the stabbing. And the newsmap didn't specify that the stabbing was associated with the parade (but given the location/time of day, it certainly seems plausible).

joseph11 wrote: I never said i didn't like west indians. I never maid any reference to the type of people that we pushing. YOU DID There were white, black, men, women, all acting uncivilized. I have been in plenty of situations were the police had to funnel a large group of people through a small area. If people in this neighborhood knew how to act in public there would not have been any problems. What ever happened to waiting you turn. Luckly for you, you weren't stabbed or crushed at the parade, but if you were you would be siniging a very different tune.

YOU said the people that attended the parade behaved in an uncivilized fashion. All of them. YOU said the people who attended the parade were not acting like humans. All of them. YOU said they were POS. All of them.

It was the West Indian Day parade. For your information, the vast majority of those in attendance were West Indian. So, if you had a problem with "the people" that attended the parade, guess what, you have a problem with West Indians. Again, if you dont like West Indians, just come out with it and stop being a pussy.

With regards to the penned in people, you simply dont get it. If you are jammed in and unable to move or even breath, where is the so-called crowd control? People in danger of passing out have no choice but to try to make space for themselves. In addition, those with children have to ensure that they are not squashed or trampled. Again, those in charge of crowd control should share this concern and avoid penning too many people in for too long of a time. If they are not focused on that, they risk losing control of the crowd, because most people, civilized or not, will not allow themselves to be crushed to death, and they not likely allow their children to be crushed to death either.

arches wrote: You can't post to Gothamist newsmap. It's based on data provided by a third party police radio monitoring service. It is certainly prone to address errors, and not every crime gets picked up. Maybe you're confusing it with the Brooklynian crimemap?

Eh, I though Gothamist took anonymous tips and whatnot for that stuff. I could be wrong. It's possible.

arches wrote: [quote=daver]The official Gothamist post states no reports of violence.

Gothamist is fun to read. It's no bastion of journalistic integrity.
Exactly. So where are the stabbing reports, anywhere?

arches wrote: Again, I have no idea if the crime actually occured, but its a bit of a stretch to accuse joseph11 of simply making up the report (even if he has a bad attitude).

Oops, let me be clear. I have no doubt that there was a blip on the map, and I'm not accusing him of making it up. But to take that blip two days later that is gone and was never verified by _anything_ (not even Gothamist!) and continue to rail about stabbings during the parade is a bit silly.

No?

i have another service completely independent from the two the "Gothamist News Map" has. It stated the following:

BROOKLYN, NY (NYC) *STABBING* EASTERN PKWY & WASHINGTON AVE. PD O/S W/ A MALE STABBED. ALSO REP LARGE CROWD IN THE AREA.

BNN, one of the services that Gothamist uses, is credible and is even used by high profile TV News stations. In fact, I believe "Eyewitness News" uses their paid services. For the most part, the way local news stations learn of "local breaking news", such as car accidents, shootings, etc is by using these type of scanner monitoring companies.

The info is sent through email.

It's this service though:

http://www.1rwn.com/

NY-1 didn't mention it either:

http://www.ny1.com/Default.aspx?ArID=85353

Last year they focused on the one incident in which a shot was fired:

http://www.ny1.com/Default.aspx?ArID=73235

One incident of serious violence, while regrettable, is not as significant when one considers the number of people attending this event.

joseph11 wrote: Unless you're that person. This is the one act that was reported.

But still no reports in a major news outlet. I'm going to ask someone I know who was working in the Kings County ER during that shift and see whether anyone with an injury like that came in.

Even if true, that's an amazingly low rate of violence for a parade with 3 million people, which is more than the entire population of any city in the U.S. except New York and L.A. What average number of stabbings in a day do you think would be typical in an American city of 3 million people (almost as many people as L.A., more than the population of Chicago, and as big as two Phillys or Phoenixes)?

Subject: Re: 3 million people there? ...not a chance:

elitt wrote: That's more the the entire population of Brooklyn

http://brooklyn.about.com/od/brooklynneighborhoods/f/qa_population.htm

and crowd estimates are notoriously innacurate

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/nyregion/02crowd.html?ref=nyregion

As I'm sure you're aware, people come from all over to attend this parade.

The police this time are also saying 3 million, and they usually tend to have lower estimates than media groups. I've never heard estimates less than 2 million in recent years. If 3 million is off by a little, it's definitely not an order of magnitude off, so regardless, it's still larger than almost any American city.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=King without a crown]The Police created the problem????? Every year there are numerous incidents at this event, most of which go unreported. With that being said, I think the NYPD did a pretty damn good job controlling a crowd of atleast 3 million people. But I do find it quite strange that you are so anti-Cop, I wonder if you were turned down by the Police department for a job or maybe a Cop banged your girlfriend or something.

Some of the police were fine, and some of the police displayed the kind of attitude of joseph11, assuming all the people they were supposed to be protecting were a "POS." Regardless, the planning at the intersections was poor and created a tense situation that didn't need to exist. Take some constructive criticism, or continue to blame the people at the parade who you clearly look down on so much.

Believe me, I'm way overqualified for the NYPD, and there's no way I'd take the pay cut to have to work with you guys. And the cop with my wife thing... keep dreaming, KWAC.

100% with you carnivore....