Witnessed a mugging tonight
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Thanks for calling the cops, madman. At least you're not one of those idiots who neglected to call out of fear that the police might mistreat the poor perps once arrested.
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supreme_ian wrote: Bensonhurst = the hood in nyc with the WORST reported act of racial violence EVER in nyc .. ahahahah
Georgetown is at the end of Ralph Avenue. Probably the two safest areas in Brooklyn are Dyker Heights and Gerritsen Beach.
Georgetown = where the hell is this at. im from BROOKLYN and never heard of this.
Williamsburg and Greenpoint = 2 high crime area's matter fact last i recall those 2 area's high the highest rate of "muggings" street robberies in bklyn.
Prospect heights .. come on man.. your making me laugh again..
same with kensignton its 1 of those small hoods in bklyn where alot of shit goes on but you will never hear of it because of the way the LOCALS keep it. just like armchair said ..
brooklyn still has plenty of hoods that operate like that.. Bay Ridge,kensingtn, dyker heights & ESPECIALLY sheepshead bay/mill basin are like that .. take a good look @ who is on the streets in those areas ! -
Georgetown, Brooklyn: go down Ralph avenue past Flatlands avenue, headed towards Kings Plaza. There's an I-Hop, Waldbaums, Chinese Buffet, Party Palace and some other business in that mall area. I've known that area as Georgetown for decades.
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Idlewild wrote: [quote=supreme_ian]Bensonhurst = the hood in nyc with the WORST reported act of racial violence EVER in nyc .. ahahahah
Georgetown is at the end of Ralph Avenue. Probably the two safest areas in Brooklyn are Dyker Heights and Gerritsen Beach.
Georgetown = where the hell is this at. im from BROOKLYN and never heard of this.
Williamsburg and Greenpoint = 2 high crime area's matter fact last i recall those 2 area's high the highest rate of "muggings" street robberies in bklyn.
Prospect heights .. come on man.. your making me laugh again..
same with kensignton its 1 of those small hoods in bklyn where alot of shit goes on but you will never hear of it because of the way the LOCALS keep it. just like armchair said ..
brooklyn still has plenty of hoods that operate like that.. Bay Ridge,kensingtn, dyker heights & ESPECIALLY sheepshead bay/mill basin are like that .. take a good look @ who is on the streets in those areas !
yup. -
I saw blood on the sidewalk near Flatbush and ***** this AM. I'm pretty sure it was from this.
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jf22561 wrote: supreme, there are many areas in Brooklyn that are considered safe from violent street crime: Windsor Terrace, Kensington, Dyker Heights, Bensonhurst, Bay Ridge, Park Slope, Sheepshead Bay, Gravesend, Mill Basin, Georgetown, I think Williamsburg and Greenpoint(?) - I know there's more but I'm not sure of their names. Prospect Heights can go either way, I think. I was just responding to your comment about Gracie Mansion, and trying to say that we should not be complacent about violent crime - it is NOT something that we have to live with.
Oh, and so you think NONE of the predominantly Caribbean neighborhoods are safe? Pffft. Typical. -
Why are we being so secretive about the location of a Violent Street Crime? It wasn't a Rape that occurred at the victims residence.
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caaahyoki, I am not familiar with Caribbean neighboorhoods. Can you list them and we can discuss? Oh, and Pffft back to you, whatever that means. And "typical" of what??
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madman,
Can you give a more detailed description of the muggers?
I often see young kids in red hoodies around the neighborhood and it worries me that it may local kids. -
joseph11 wrote: Why does color matter. some people are good and some people are bad reguardless of color, Why do you need to mention color???????
Seriously. I think the original poster needs to contemplate the fact that it's less about color, and more about a certain group of people mass-flooding into the area with endless amounts of money, putting a cost-of-living squeeze on another group of people who were already here and in a squeeze to begin with.
I remember first hand, that when just about everyone in Brooklyn was on the same basic economic level, there was nothing stereotypical about the muggers or the victims. -
madman wrote:
See, this is what I'm talking about. You live in a city of 8 million people, growing every day. In NYC, unless you are a native of Howard Beach or Mill Basin or some other mob neighborhood which keeps strangers out, then there are no safe blocks.
Not only did it happen in front of people, it happened on a pretty safe block. I know that there have been some incidents near Underhill, but this was right near Flatbush, just around the corner from Franny's for crying out loud.
How are you shocked that this happened on Flatbush? Less than 20 years ago, you couldn't GIVE a building on Dean St. away. You think just because Franny's opened up, and people are paying over a mil for some dump in Prospect Heights, now the whole world has changed?
I looked behind my back when I came out of the train station at night in 1991, and I still do it today. I do the same thing before I enter my front door at night. All I've got to say is, a lot of people around here need to pull their head out of their ass. Seriously. :roll: -
supreme_ian wrote:
Wherever Woody Allen or Sarah Jessica Parker are shooting a movie; and it is unaffordable to most New Yorkers at that.
whats considered a "safer" neighborhood ? -
BrookFetish wrote: I saw blood on the sidewalk near Flatbush and ***** this AM. I'm pretty sure it was from this.
On Prospect between Flatbush and Carlton? I saw that shit too. -
Why aren't we being specific about the exact location of the incident? That's weird.
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supreme_ian wrote: [quote=jf22561]supreme asks: whats considered a "safer" neighborhood ?
OK and im saying you being a "native ny'er" know that no such area exists in nyc. violent crime happens in every single neighborhood of nyc
answer: where violent crime is a rarity.
In other words, you don't have to live near Gracie Mansion for goodness sakes.
Some more than others. TRUE STORY.
(How could you even deny that?) -
I have to say Williamsburg there are lots of violent crimes from street sexual assault to muggings to that pack of dudes who are running around the southern #ed streets with MACHETES -- cops posted everywhere for a while over this.
Most of the other neighborhoods seemed relatively "safe" from violent crime though. -
brooklynleather wrote: I have to say Williamsburg there are lots of violent crimes from street sexual assault to muggings to that pack of dudes who are running around the southern #ed streets with MACHETES -- cops posted everywhere for a while over this.
When I've had occasion to travel there, I've generally found lots of dog poop too.
I mean, it ain't machetes, but lots of dog poop is definitely a crime ($250 per pop, er poop, whatever) and a Quality Of Life issue.
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Lots of times just yelling "Hey" works - the perp thinks "he sees me" even if what's going on is hard to discern. Real altercations look really weird, I'm always like, are they really fighting??
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At least you can tell us what block it was on and what time of day it was. Was it in the middle of the night or during the day or what?
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eterpay wrote: At least you can tell us what block it was on and what time of day it was. Was it in the middle of the night or during the day or what?
A careful reading reveals that it was (relatively) late night on Saturday, I'm guessing maybe 11pm, definitely NOT past 12:20am, right near Flatbush, just around the corner from Franny's, so like Prospect or St. Marks.
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Subject: Are You Serious?
joseph11 wrote: until we ALL realive that WE all ARE equill reguardless of color we will never be equill. What would have been diferent if he was white. People like you make me sick to he human.
Jospeh: Smarten up. We are not all created equel. and, as you must know, race matters!
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Subject: Silly, silly girl
caaahyoko wrote: [quote=jf22561]supreme, there are many areas in Brooklyn that are considered safe from violent street crime: Windsor Terrace, Kensington, Dyker Heights, Bensonhurst, Bay Ridge, Park Slope, Sheepshead Bay, Gravesend, Mill Basin, Georgetown, I think Williamsburg and Greenpoint(?) - I know there's more but I'm not sure of their names. Prospect Heights can go either way, I think. I was just responding to your comment about Gracie Mansion, and trying to say that we should not be complacent about violent crime - it is NOT something that we have to live with.
Oh, and so you think NONE of the predominantly Caribbean neighborhoods are safe? Pffft. Typical.
Amazingly naive...
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Any update on the victom's condition? Is he okay?
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brooklynboy3, I think you should read the crime stats before making a silly statement like that.
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jf22561 wrote: brooklynboy3, I think you should read the crime stats before making a silly statement like that.
Unclear on your post.
Can you elaborate?
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I thought you were calling me naive and I was just suggesting that you read the crime stats. Did I misunderstand your message?
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Subject: Perhaps...
jf22561 wrote: I thought you were calling me naive and I was just suggesting that you read the crime stats. Did I misunderstand your message?
..I musunderstood yours:) I was under the impression that you thought others were saying that certain neighboorhoods were unsafe and andnthey were only the non- white ones.
No matter.
enjoy the day
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delabklyn wrote: madman,
Mugger 1: Mid-late 20's; 5'10" - 6' tall; maybe 170-180 lbs; red hoodie; dark pants; cornrows; male african american.
Can you give a more detailed description of the muggers?
I often see young kids in red hoodies around the neighborhood and it worries me that it may local kids.
Mugger 2: Younger, slimmer. I'm thinking late teens. Dark clothing that was hard to distinguish from a distance. I didn't get close enough to him for much of a description.
I've never seen them in the neighborhood.Obamanut wrote:
Be careful of the "outsiders invading our nabe and changing things" meme. It's disturbingly similair to when the majority-white (Italian, Jewish and German) population complained about blacks moving into Prospect Heights during the 1950s-1960s. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now.
Seriously. I think the original poster needs to contemplate the fact that it's less about color, and more about a certain group of people mass-flooding into the area with endless amounts of money, putting a cost-of-living squeeze on another group of people who were already here and in a squeeze to begin with.
I remember first hand, that when just about everyone in Brooklyn was on the same basic economic level, there was nothing stereotypical about the muggers or the victims.
I also somehow doubt that the two young muggers were evicted from their family brownstone in PH and were just trying to supplement their income in order to pay for organic produce. More likely, they left the projects and went looking for easy targets in an area where people might have some cash in their pockets.
Finally, by saying "everyone was on the same basic economic level", did you mean that they were typical.. maybe even stereotypical? -
madman wrote:
That comparison is absolutely ridiculous. Even if they were similar, I don't know why you'd be disturbed.
Be careful of the "outsiders invading our nabe and changing things" meme. It's disturbingly similair to when the majority-white (Italian, Jewish and German) population complained about blacks moving into Prospect Heights during the 1950s-1960s. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now. -
bobbybrummel wrote: [quote=madman]
That comparison is absolutely ridiculous. Even if they were similar, I don't know why you'd be disturbed.
Be careful of the "outsiders invading our nabe and changing things" meme. It's disturbingly similair to when the majority-white (Italian, Jewish and German) population complained about blacks moving into Prospect Heights during the 1950s-1960s. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now.
Populations come and go. Change happens. It's happened before and it will happen again. But if you take it personally, if you build up a self-rightous claim to the status-quo, you only build resentment and anger among groups. That doesn't help anyone involved.
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