Gang Initiation - 31 Women - Hoax or not?
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here4now wrote:
I PM'd you my childhood wearabouts.
Hey, me too. Where in W Mass?
I'm from W Mass. -
ahhh, but it was also "cabbage night" where i grew up, in jersey.
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Yes, for some crazy reason NJ and parts of Mass use this name.
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"cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
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false! i'm from central jersey and it was always called mischief night. i've never heard the words "cabbage night" before in my life.
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yourlittleshark wrote: false! i'm from central jersey and it was always called mischief night. i've never heard the words "cabbage night" before in my life.
Not sure about the rest of Jersey, but certain towns in Bergen County called it Cabbage Night when I was growing up. Was never clear on why it was called that. It was called that when my father and uncle were growing upt there too, and they had no idea what the origin of the name was either. -
Spoke with a cop friend. Works in the 67. Said there has been alot of face slashing since thursday. Just a heads up.
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Subject: Gang initiations?
My son works in Times Square and he said that the week of Halloween two people were stabbed and paralyzed in front of one of the restaurants in Times Square. The police were there and they told the staff to get cabs home and stay out of the subways that evening. So my son and his friends split a cab ride home that night. I'm just saying this event really happened. He loves the city and I've never heard him sound so shaken up over anything there before.
He was told that the weeks of Halloween and Easter are gang initiation times. It sounds like it's not common knowledge and kept quiet so as not to scare tourists away. As his mom who visits him from Michigan, and who loves NYC, I can tell you I will not be booking travel plans to the city around Halloween or Easter. We've gone several times, walked and subwayed everywhere, been out late and never had any problem... but this was scary news and I know he was shook up from it.
He has been traveling to NYC since he was 16 on his own, tagging along with older friends. He gets teased about being from Detroit there, when he asks if certain neighborhoods are safe. Like nothing could be worse than Detroit! LOL! (But he was a suburban boy here -- not urban -- big difference!) However in NYC he's lived everywhere from the upper west side to Harlem to Washington Heights... and loves it all!
Why wouldn't he love it when he can go see La Traviata at the Met for $26 student rate and get Orchestra pit! And see a different opera the next night! This amazed me! More than one opera at a time running concurrently in the same house??? -- Can you tell I'm from Podunk - Detroit? Four operas is our whole season for the year... you get that in a month! NYC - what a city!!! I love it and I'm jealous of you all... but do take care and be safe!
Paula
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Which restaurant? When? What time? No reporting what-so-ever? Specifics or I'm calling bull.
No offence, but the adage "if it bleeds. It leads," is still the mantra for the newspapers in this town. If the post got a whiff of the "bloods" "mafia" "purple gang" or (insert faceless ethically-based gang i.e. "them") they would pull out the 98 point type and splash it on the front page.
It's not that I doubt that crime happens. I'm not buying the fear. -
Subject: Re: Gang initiations?
Paula wrote: My son works in Times Square and he said that the week of Halloween two people were stabbed and paralyzed in front of one of the restaurants in Times Square.
Paula, if this had actually happened in the way that your son described it, the news would have been all over it--even in a big place like NYC. Before I'm going to get worried about this, I need specifics: restaurants, locations, dates.
I'm not saying that something didn't happen, I'm just thinking that maybe the cop exaggerated a bit. It's been my experience that police at a crime scene generally aren't too forthcoming with information. Maybe this cop was just telling a story for the tourists to take home to Iowa.... -
I think it was the Saturday or Sunday before Halloween. Around 47th street hmmm... the cop was there for a disturbance not related to the stabbings... maybe that's their way of cutting crime down... having people avoid subways as a preventative measure? Lot's of weird stuff was going on in the area that week bad vibes... I thought it was odd that both stabbings resulted in paralysis. Maybe it was slashings instead? Still bad obviously, but as a dancer the paralysis thing really hit his hot button! He's lived in the city now for 3 years and never been worried about anything before!
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My students in The BX were talking about this this past week. They said that Bloods were supposed to slash the face of or rape 30 women on Halloween. They said they knew of a few girls who got their faces cut. Seems like if 30 girls really got their faces cut, it would have made the news. Whether or not there is any truth to this does not change the fact that gangs are entirely lame.
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I was going to reply with a dispute to the stabbing claim - I work on west 47th and didn't hear anything about it.. However, a quick search came up with this article - maybe this is what they were talking about. From the Post. Another one mentions that the kid stabbed outside of the theater was partially paralyzed as a result. Also, a third article says that four people were stabbed (all at a Saw V screening).
Then I was going to say that it's crazy that Easter is a more violent time than usual -- but then I found this.
who knew?
For what it's worth I've lived here my entire life and never been stabbed (I just knocked on wood) and, NY used to be much more violent than it is now. If it makes you feel more comfortable not to travel during certain times then do your thing, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The NY metro area has almost 19 million people - the odds are very much in your favor. -
"For what it's worth I've lived here my entire life and never been stabbed (I just knocked on wood) and, NY used to be much more violent than it is now. If it makes you feel more comfortable not to travel during certain times then do your thing, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The NY metro area has almost 19 million people - the odds are very much in your favor."
Hey Jarvis, and all you New Yorkers... I admire and love your attitudes on this! You've helped me "re-frame" this event and put it into context... I guess out of 19 million people... the odds are that I'm not going to be "the one" and neither is my son.
When my son was younger he was a boy soprano in the Opera here... that put us in Detroit in some lovely neighborhoods to go to the costume warehouse back then-- these awful little back alleys with manhole covers stolen and burnt out houses. (now costumes are conveniently and safely kept together in the main opera house!) I would do what I had to do and never projected fear to my kids... just that you had to be aware of your surroundings and watch yourself. If you do that you can go anywhere. I refuse to live in fear of being attacked and that was how I raised my kids.
I guess here in Detroit though we can go home to the suburbs... and feel safer. Ultimately, as the other part of the quote in my signature states: "Security is mostly a superstition"... so we just trust and live our lives. -
quig wrote: "cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
me too, bergen county.
(i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night") -
quig wrote: "cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
Yea I always thought it was a Bergen County thing to cause my friends from Morris County call it Mischief Night. -
brooklynpotter wrote: [quote=quig]"cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
me too, bergen county.
(i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night")
goosey night? haven't heard that one. gonna consult my passaic amigos on that one. -
rtraindweller wrote: [quote=brooklynpotter][quote=quig]"cabbage night" in Bergen Co. NJ
me too, bergen county.
(i've heard people from passaic county call it "goosey night")
goosey night? haven't heard that one. gonna consult my passaic amigos on that one.
Perhaps it harkens back to Passaic antiquity... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Happy birthday, BP!
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thanks carnivore.
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