Hipsters
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Subject: Re: Hipsters
Jay B wrote: What's the deal? The dark frame glasses, tight jeans, scruffy faces, Brooklyn Industries bags, incredible skinniness, Chuck Taylor sneakers? Why are they all such carbon copies? I thought that whole style started as a way to be different, and now it's like a population of people who are exactly like each other and who are, in fact, very difficult to tell apart. I'm not trying to be offensive here, I'm truly curious. Does anyone know?
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"You wanna be an individual, right? You look like you're wearing a uniform. You look like a punk. That's not rebellion. That's fashion."
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i think hipsters are also partly a physical manifestation of the quirkidemic that has been described elsewhere (http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200709/quirk). it's one thing to appreciate the peculiar, but once a large portion of an entire generation embraces strange for strange's sake, then you start to lose your mind and with it any sense of what actually looks silly.
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MOOSE!!
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Mamacita wrote: MOOSE!!
That's such a hipster thing to say. :roll:
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GermanHermann wrote: I'm sorry, you're looking for an explanation of why there exists a group of people who dress similar? How many bridge 'n' tunnelers have you seen sporting pink dress shirts that have glittery emblems on them, locked arm in arm with gals with even more glitter on their face? why do they do that? how about teenagers with loooong white t-shirts and those bags you get free with sneakers hanging off their elbows? why do they do that? ohio tourists with pants so high up their waist they don't have backs anymore? why do they wear those pants so high? or those grandmothers with purple hair. purple is less noticeable than white? why do they do that?
Did I say only hipsters had that mentality? Nope. If I wrote about one book I thought was good, would you be on my back for not mentioning every other good book ever?
you really think hipsters are the single group with a herd mentality? _they're_ the best example you could come up with of blindly following a trend?
I'm really just curious what the deal is with hipsters. I could care less about purple hair, ohio tourists, or glitter faced girls. -
bobbybrummel wrote: silverager, has anyone ever told you you're really good at sucking the fun out of a conversation?
Silverager, come on. We don't hate hipsters, we just think they're kind of funny. And now we're talking about it.
Jay B: are you a secret hipster? http://stuffhipstersdontlike.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/1-hipsters/
Haha nope. My jeans have plenty of room for my knots. I wear Nikes and I'm an appropriate weight given my height. I shave and hate scarves. And I've never worn glasses. I drink Becks, not PBR. And Williamsburg scares me way more than Brownsville at 3am. That link is funny though. And true. -
oh goodie! this again.
blind, insincere followers of any movement are annoying. but this is new york, guys. people smoke pot and paint and play guitar and they're probably going to be classified as hipsters, right? not everybody that looks the part is a fake. jus' sayin. -
Jay B wrote: I'm really just curious what the deal is with hipsters. I could care less about purple hair, ohio tourists, or glitter faced girls.
You missed the point, Jay B. There's no deal with them. They like tight pants and deep v sweaters. Just in the same way that some people like hot pants and halter tops, or some people like jackets with patches on the elbows. The idea that it's silly for them to have a conformity amongst themselves because they are against conformity is itself silly. I've met a lot of hipsters, I've never met one who has said he hates conformity. Those are hippies.
Just because you look the part doesn't mean you don't like looking the part. What's this about blindly following a trend? That's what I find silly --- the accusation. Would you prefer they went the opposite way and bought pants that were a bit too big (look around on the subway, most people are wearing clothes that are too big) and shirt advertising GAP? would that then mean they weren't blindly following a trend?
I'll take the original post as a joke, because if serious, it's selfdefeating. However, JAY B, ANDY ROONEY CALLED: HE WANTS HIS SHTICK BACK. -
The hipsters should get with the times and move into the pants at half mast group
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German Hermann it seems you are a hipster. I knew those tight jeans must cause people to get their knots in a bunch over silly nonsense.
I, for one, have never seen anyone on the subway wearing pants that were too big and a shirt advertising GAP. There is no way people blindly follow this trend because it doesn't exist. Maybe you should start that trend up and be "cutting edge." You could be Williamsburg's next big thing. -
Dude, you are so stubborn. You really think that in the world of trend following the hipsters are the best example? For fuck's sake, how many albums did o-town sell? you think they were good? I'll take a trend following hipsters over any other trendster. anyday. und du kannst mein arsch lecken, Jay B. paDOW!
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I never said they were the best example. I know there are other examples of trend following. However, the topic is hipsters in this case. Sorry to offend you and your tight jeans. I see you're speaking other languages now. That's so hip. Did you know your picture is on the web?
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Yeah, exactly, Jay B. I'm talking about your first post, and the inherent mistake you made. They aren't trying to be different. They are people with a different aesthetic. They are a group of people all with the same aesthetic, which is different from the average aesthetic. Just like any other group. Which is why I fail to see the mystery you were wow'ed by in the first post. It's like being mystified by any group of people who have a taste-marker in common.
By the way, that photo is so out of date. I've grown my hair out since then. -
Wow... I probably should have looked at the picture first. I had no clue that hipsters were people who wear Keffiyehs, vans, and big sunglasses. Oh and what appear to be properly sized pants. (For reference, these are tight pants. do your research, JayB)
WHOA... look at this dude... he got the members only jacket, but forgot the keffiyeh. what a douche bag. -
what's next - "yuppie" post? "ugg" or "crocs" posts revisted?
wow - let's group a bunch of people together to judge and hate.
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there was a time when the precursor to the hipster was smaller in numbers, with much less of a media presence. the question for you tastemakers is what group is the new hipster? who are the current pissed off counterculture? are we going to see a generation of new republicans, annoyed and cynical about all the love and hope swelling in people's unironic faces?
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I reckon we're overdue for an earnest nation-building civic-minded institution-favoring anti-individualist generation. The last one was pre-baby-boomers. I need someone to rail against when they're infringing my individual liberties in the retirement home. We'll see.
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you know, in defense of those glasses, I have guy friends who have been wearing those since I was in high school 15 years ago. I think The classic Buddy Holly (Sol Moscots) frame is a hot look for guys & I would never ask my darling boyfriend to stop wearing his & go get new frames just because some other assholes decided it was cool this season.
And some of us rockers have been wearing cons and skinny jeans since birth (see the classic Lip Service "Stretch Fuckin Jean") (also, see The Ramones) - again, not changing my personal style just because some dickweeds from Williamsburg started wearing it all the time.
Honestly, a lot of these looks are that are "in" right now are classics and actually a lot less trendy than most other stuff I can think of. Its just too bad people don't mix it up a little more. -
couldn't you have saved yourself some typing, and just written "hello. <- cooler than you, since '82"?
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skinny jeans look better than baggy ones in my opinion.
and yeah....those glasses look great on a lot of guys. so does facial hair.
i think you see what you want to see, but there's a lot more creativity in some of these vintage inspired looks than i see most of the over 40 crowd wearing...pleated slacks, steve madden/kenneth cole/aldo shoes (which all look the same), a banana republic button down and a brown braided belt.
no thanks. -
belzjm is my new hero.
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and fyi...145 -150lbs or so for an average height guy (5'10) is normal.
most of this country is too fat and seem to have lost touch with what a "normal" weight is. -
GermanHermann wrote: couldn't you have saved yourself some typing, and just written "hello. <- cooler than you, since '82"?
correction, since 77 -
170 pounds is normal for 5'10. 145 is really really skinny for that height.
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Both fall well within the normal range for that height
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