Damn!

there might be a lot of people who wished they had supported the original gehry design, as it integrated the arena into other architecture like offices, residences, retail, etc. i think this new arena will be the only part of the project that gets built. not exactly a sucess for the develop-don't-destroyers.

Chekhovian wrote: there might be a lot of people who wished they had supported the original gehry design, as it integrated the arena into other architecture like offices, residences, retail, etc. i think this new arena will be the only part of the project that gets built. not exactly a sucess for the develop-don't-destroyers.

atlantic yards demonstrates a grave failure

of how our court system interprets

eminent domain and public benefit



for those who only saw design over urban planning

you were treacherously seduced and mislead

sir_eccles wrote: You know what really irks me about the artists impression that accompanies that article, there is barely any traffic there and what is there but a yellow cab. How unrealistic!

By the time that is built, there will be so much traffic-reducing measures in place (such as bike lanes, less lanes, etc.) that there will not be any traffic of which to speak. Except on game days of course.

Karl - you're misled over what occupies most of the proposed AY space. There is nothing there, it is a vacated lot where nothing exists. It is in play for eminent domain.

The original plan was better than that and is better than what is about to be built (an arena and surrounding parking lots). Brooklyn missed an opportunity to have a new architectural concept hatched on an under-used space. There were problems indeed, but we opposed the whole concept and now Brooklyn is in line for a ho-hum arena that will give the Flatbush/Atlantic section a depressing resemblance to middlwestern downtowns, i.e. a blighted area people abandon except on game days.

Chekhovian wrote: Karl - you're misled over what occupies most of the proposed AY space. There is nothing there, it is a vacated lot where nothing exists. It is in play for eminent domain.

the actual blight is courtesy of fcr

only now is it mostly composed of empty lots, hurricane fences, and broken buildings



although atlantic yards promised so much more

it never really intended to provide any

sustainable public benefits, affordable housing, or unified urban planning



this illustration below might better demonstrate

what atlantic yards really was all along

what a stunning piece of crap. it was bad enough to rip up the neighborhood for an arena -- which ouroussoff correctly describes as a black hole and which many of us opposed for good reasons -- but at least there was an effort to make something of some redeeming architectural quality. but that, just like the faux neighborhood pro-development groups fcr created, was also a sham. ouroussoff nails it: "it is a shameful betrayal of the public trust." but what he can't say in the times is that ratner is taking a giant shit in the middle of brooklyn.