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Chewing — Brooklynian

Chewing

domino
edited November -1 in Brooklyn Pets
We lost our our 16 year old dalmatian earlier this year.

Our 6 year old boxer has developed what I can only classify as separation anxiety. He grinds his teeth, is totally attached (we must be in constant visual range) and now has taken to chewing the wood blinds when we both leave.

I just got home from a client and the bedroom blinds are chewed three slats up. Nothing there!!!!! It must have hurt since there is some blood on the broken pieces - what do I do??? He has chew toys, kibble, music, a pet cat - HELP!!!! He is sitting contritely on his doggy bed (he KNOWS it was his bad) but how do I prevent him from destroying the house/himself?

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  • Send him to live with me!

    Have you tried giving him a frozen kong while you're out? It might redirect him. That or you could try crate training again?
  • I have no advice but I"m sorry about your Dalmatian.
  • I would like an answer to this question as well, although I fear there is none. It probably comes with the territory of owning a bully breed, but the Lou Bear is chewing us out of house and home! And he's not even unattended during the day, so it's not boredom unless he considers us boring (which we probably are). Lou is a stealth chewer. His most recent victim was one of our dining room chairs. Oh, and when I was unloading the dishwasher today, he gleefully grabbed a wooden spoon and chewed it to pieces.

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  • Poor thing! That certainly sounds like separation anxiety. My folks had a dog do the same thing when the older, alpha dog died. It was so sad.

    I'll gladly tell you some things I would try if you like, but you can probably google separation anxiety and read up on crating and other ways of coping.
  • HE ATE THE CRATE - well at least the plastic tray that went on the bottom. The sides are the thin metal bars/wires and he has given a gnaw or two on those as well.

    I have several Kongs (with peanut butter, cookies) as well as a "rope"pull toy - but nothing holds his attention. He tries to curl up next to the kitteh but the 6 pound princess wants no part of the 80 pound boxer boy.

    Short of getting those electronic zap collars (which I HATE) I am lost.

    Thanks on the sympathy Danielle123 - I miss my spotty girl every day. She was definitely one in a million - and I think Rocks misses her more than I do.
  • I could very well imagine Louie doing that to a crate, Domino. In addition to Louie, we have two cats who are not crazy about him. I have thought about getting gates but the ones I have seen online look rather insubstantial and I suspect Louie would make mincemeat out of them.

    I had never heard of Kongs, but I will try them. His preferred chewy toys at the moment are my son's girlfriend's $300 shoes. I think he's an SATC fan; he really has a thing for those spiky heels.

    My daughter is at home from college this summer so we have a Louie babysitter until September, but I don't know what we're going to do this fall. English bulldogs are attention whores and Louie is a spoiled baby.
  • If this destructive, nervous behavior started after your Dalmation passed away, what about fostering a dog in need. There are dogs - yours included, I think - that need companionship at all times - but it doesn't necessarily have to be a person. It's very possible that as long as another living creature is in the house, your dog will be fine - just like he was with the Dalmation. Adoption would be wonderful, but I'm thinking maybe you're not ready(?) which is why I suggest fostering. Good luck to you and I'm so sorry for your loss.
  • He is absolutely adorubles!

    The cat sashays around as if we are her personal servants (to a large extent, we are) and actually will hog the dog's bed. He will try to snuggle up to her and she will just stalk off (I can imagine her words as HArummph).

    A Kong is an indestructible (according to the manufacturer) rubber chew toy. It has a hollow core where you can hide treats, peanut butter, etc. To date, Rocks has not destroyed his - he will half-heartedly knock it around the room and then ignore it.

    Yes - shoes are chews. Especially Jimmy Choos (sorry we went to the SATC reference) - its the leather and footsie smell. I lost a favorite pair the same way. He has not gone back to THOSE days - he just finds new things to focus his destruction on. The odd thing is he also hurts himself with the new chews.
  • Thanks jf22561 - no, not really ready yet. I know he misses her terribly - the only time he seems happy is when he mets up with his doggy buddies and romps around. If you can believe - his new best friend is a 15 pound Jack Russell that torments him mercilessly.

    Since my spotty girl was a rescue, I have recently started checking the greyhound rescue sites. Not ready to go there just yet - but have started thinking about it.
  • Well, right now Louie is chewing on a hairbrush. He jumped up on my bed in an extreme spurt of energy - we call him Demian when he gets in these moods. The cats are watching him warily. I am going to try the Kong - I work near Beastly Bite and I assume they carry them. However, Louie has destroyed other "indestructible" toys. Also, I think that sanctioned toys don't have the cachet for him that forbidden objects do. When he's running off with an object, he always watches me to gauge my response and seems disappointed when I don't react negatively.

    We should probably get him a crate, but he's already a puppy school dropout. We're bad doggy parents.
  • antigone, you let Louie have whatever he wants. He is cute bebe. My advice is to stuff the kong and freeze it overnight. It'll take 'em a while to work the goodies out.
  • Is there a neighbor/friend's dog that can stay with your dog during the day while you're at work? I actually had a client whose Beagle had to be with another dog during the day while she was working so she'd keep a neighbor's dog at her place every day and it kept her Beagle very happy. Without another dog with him, he would scream and howl and chew up everything in sight!
  • antigone wrote: Also, I think that sanctioned toys don't have the cachet for him that forbidden objects do. When he's running off with an object, he always watches me to gauge my response and seems disappointed when I don't react negatively.

    We should probably get him a crate, but he's already a puppy school dropout. We're bad doggy parents.
    Some dogs, just like kids, do like any attention, even negative attention. Maybe when he grabs something and starts running off with it, calmly go get a piece of his favorite treat (super scented cheese, jerky - whatever he finds irresistible) and call him with a happy tone. Make him do a few repetitions of some basic obedience (sit, lie down, roll over, whatever he knows) and then reward him. Do just enough so he knows he's being rewarded for the tricks and not for the theft. While he's eating, calmly take the object away (if it is in reach) and don't make a fuss over it. Then give him a kong or mega rawhide or bone or something else chewy and time-consuming and go back to whatever you were doing.

    Just an idea - that's what I'd probably try if my girl had chewing/stealing issues. Thank goodness she doesn't, as I'm not the tidiest person around.

    And as for the crate training - if you do it slowwwwwwwly, it is never too late. Just make it comfy and enticing and always leave the door open at first, toss some treats in there from time to time, get him voluntarily going in there and cat napping (dog napping?). Then eventually close the door and work that for some intervals.

    One last idea that never hurts - exercise, lots of it. Beyond separation anxiety, boredom and restless energy can also contribute to stealing/chewing. If your pup is pooped, he won't be as inclined to steal stuff and have a marathon furniture chewing session. He'll be more likely to just sleep when you're gone, too. I read somewhere - "a tired dog is a good dog." I'm a believer, I see it in my own super energetic terrier.
  • I would definitely recommend lots and lots of exercise- walk/run him until you practically have to carry him home every morning. Also, have you tried bitter apple? Even the most motivated chewers usually hate that stuff and it doesn't damage most surfaces (I'm sure it would be fine on the blinds.)

    I also second crate training. its going to be hard, but its SO worth it (even with adult dogs) and if he's tired he'll sleep most of the time he's in there anyway.
  • Trying the frozen Kong today - put some peanut butter in it and left it in the freezer overnight. BF left after me - he threw it into the living room and reports that the bebe was bouncing it around as he left.

    Tonight will tell. Rocks has peculiar tastes - he actually ate Ben Gay (and then proceeded to drag butt across the carpet) so I am not sure about the bitter apple. I know the pet stores have it - that is the next option.

    I wish I could exhaust him in the morning - he is difficult to get up and going in the AM. He is hilarious - we snap the leash on and he looks up all bleary eyed and staggers out lethargically. He half heartedly walks along and when we get home, slurps some water, nibbles the kibbles and goes back to bed.

    Evening - different animal. Jumping, wiggling - excited to go. I think he may be surfing the 'net while we are asleep or playing poker til the wee hours.
  • ^^ this is Oscar. I have to drag him out of bed in the AM. Then it's a battle of wills to see who'll cave first - him to poo or me to just give up and let him go back inside to bed.

    In the evening, the ass-wiggling doesn't stop for a good hour after I'm home.
  • This is a really serious problem (from the dogs I've seen it in) that does not have an easy solution, BUT it can get better with work. If you can, I strongly recommend finding a trainer that has worked on this before. Just using a crate and a kong isn't going to help, there's a whole method to how you use it for separation anxiety and a good trainer can help you with that. If a trainer isn't an option, try reading about it online.

    I feel for you...it is so sad and frustrating when your dog is obviously so stressed.

    Lots of exercise can be very helpful and if the dog would like it, you might try a couple of days a week at a dog daycare.

    This dog could just get worse and worse and you'll see more damage to your home and the dog will hurt itself more. This type of problem does not just go away, imo.

    The only trainer I've worked with around here is Annie Angell who used to be one of the Good Dog Foundation trainers (she quit to work more at her business). We weren't dealing with problems in class but I agree with her approach and she's really patient and good with dogs and people. She usually does group classes, but I would certainly ask her about doing a home visit for this. Her business is
    http://www.mytwodogsinc.com/AboutUsPage.html

    For little Louie, I bet he just needs some more exercise. Some crating even while your home might help him learn to have quiet time without entertainment.

    Good luck!
  • Wow. Louie loves his Kong. He's been totally engrossed in it for about an hour, ever since I got home. And it doesn't even have any treats in it yet! He's seriously in love with it.

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  • Awwww...Louie looks happy!

    My dog gets a very serious look on his face when he sees me carrying the kong--peanut butter is the love of his life. Beware, squirrels *can* chew through them. My pup left one outside overnight and by the time we got back from off-leash the next morning it was half-gone.
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